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Underdog · 07-16-2012, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Yea but we're signing these guys to 1 or 2 year deals. Do any of these guys have a future here? I sure hope Collison and Mayo do. I have a feeling they are going to rebound from last season's weird season.

They have a chance - and if they bust, we're off the hook soon enough...

But if Collison and Mayo happen to blow up, then a guy like Dwight Howard might give serious thought to signing here next summer.

Male30Dan · 07-16-2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbitproof

I was probably a little harsh in my initial post. Talent-wise, he rates out in about the same tier as Kaman and Brand so it's a solid move. The youth angle also helps. Good to get guys on the other side of 30 as someone else said. He will take JET's role. Maybe he can do a Mayo whip after he makes a big shot.

Anyways, still gotta see the terms.

Kaman type contract = cool. Kaman dollars for 4 years = not cool.

Don't think there is a worry here. We only had 4m+ to sign a guy with so it's not like we COULD have offered 8m over 4 years. He either signed 1 year at 4m+ or 2+ years at 4m+ the 1st year with whatever raises the CBA allowes annually.

Am I missing something?

rabbitproof · 07-16-2012, 11:27 PM

ESPN saying it is a multiyear deal. Anybody want to venture some guesses?

4Dirk1Nowitzki · 07-16-2012, 11:27 PM

you just don't know what you're gonna get from Roddy. You pretty much know Delonte is gonna look for his shot, drive, and control the offense.

West is just the safer route.

Dtownsfinest · 07-16-2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

He wasn't playing with Dirk yet.

Fair enough but it wasn't like he was playing with scrubs. Randolph, Gasol and Gay are a solid core. The only reason they ever even make the post season.

sike · 07-16-2012, 11:29 PM

Don't say these things...just let me enjoy the moment.

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Originally Posted by Underdog

But if Collison and Mayo happen to blow up, then a guy like Dwight Howard might give serious thought to signing here next summer.

Male30Dan · 07-16-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

Don't say these things...just let me enjoy the moment.

I'm pretty sure he was using blow up in a positive way.

soccermsw · 07-16-2012, 11:30 PM

Just want to point out something for those who may not know as much.... OJ is very close to the jet in the numbers.... Ill Show you... based on last year totals
JET- 31:41 minutes played a game- averages of 15.1 points, 3.6 ast, 2.4 reb, 88.3 percent ft, 37.8 percent on 3's, 2 turnovers, 1.2 steals, .2 blks, shooting 43 percent

MAYO- 26:48 minutes played a game- averages of 12.6 points, 2.6 ast, 3.2 reb, 77.3 percent ft(career 81.7 percent), 36.4 percent on 3's (career 37.5 percent), 1.9 turnovers, 1.1 steals, .3 blks, shooting 40.8 percent from the floor

Now are you telling me that you give mayo another 5 minutes on the floor a game with dirk and he cant hit another 3 pointer or get another assist to have almost identical stats? And mayo did all of this with the some of the biggest lane cloggers in the game (randolph, gasol, even rudy gay goes inside alot)... and to mention Mayo has never played with anyone the caliber of Dirk to draw defenders away from him and to be a dump off if all else fails... Oh FYI.... MAYO IS 10 YEARS YOUNGER... YA 10 WHOLE YEARS

sike · 07-16-2012, 11:31 PM

Peter Vecey and DLord going at it right now on Twitter...funny stuff.

Underdog · 07-16-2012, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

Don't say these things...just let me enjoy the moment.

We're not keeping all this cap flexibility just so we can keep saying cool phrases like "keeping the powder dry."

sike · 07-16-2012, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Male30Dan

I'm pretty sure he was using blow up in a positive way.

Indeed he was.

LonghornDub · 07-16-2012, 11:32 PM

Did Fish really just call Mayo the "best Mavs 2-guard since Finley"? Good god.

Dtownsfinest · 07-16-2012, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

They have a chance - and if they bust, we're off the hook soon enough...

But if Collison and Mayo happen to blow up, then a guy like Dwight Howard might give serious thought to signing here next summer.

What will the cap look like though at that point? Will we have the cap space to sign Dwight or would it have to involve a sign and trade?

Just a week ago I felt like crap. Not that I didn't have hope in the front office but it just sucked being a Mav fan. I thought we were going to fill this roster up with 1 year deals of players in their mid 30's. To get youth like Collison and Mayo? Can't explain how good it feels right now.

OneLove22 · 07-16-2012, 11:33 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC775zz2DNE

Any chance we run OJ at the point some? He seems to have some nice passes...

Bayliss · 07-16-2012, 11:34 PM

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Did Fish really just call Mayo the "best Mavs 2-guard since Finley"? Good god.

No sh*t!?! What is he thinkin'? He's the best 2 guard since Ro!

rabbitproof · 07-16-2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Did Fish really just call Mayo the "best Mavs 2-guard since Finley"? Good god.

lol... JET who?

EricaLubarsky · 07-16-2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Did Fish really just call Mayo the "best Mavs 2-guard since Finley"? Good god.

Unless he's calling Terry a pg, that's one he'll of a (misplaced) burn.

Male30Dan · 07-16-2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OneLove22

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC775zz2DNE

Any chance we run OJ at the point some? He seems to have some nice passes...

I think so if Delonte isn't here and, frankly, I am all for giving OJ every chance possible to average 38 minutes or so. Love the guy. This is one of the reasons I was worried about the log jam I mentioned in a previous post (outside of the Roddy points I made).

Either way - a good problem to have.

LonghornDub · 07-16-2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbitproof

lol... JET who?

I mean, I get that the guy is a tweener guard....but come on, fish.

Dtownsfinest · 07-16-2012, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Male30Dan

Yeah, I'm a bit on the outside looking in as well regarding this. I rememeber him being a starter and a critical guy in Memphis and then dropping significant minutes and going into a 6th man role. Not sure what caused that as he was actually pretty damn productive his 2nd year before making that transition (almost .460 shooter with good 3pt% and a high scoring average).

His shooting percentage fell off for 2 straight years after the change so I'm not sure. Seems like I vaguely remember that 3rd year starting HORRIBLY and him then being moved from starter to 6th man and he just never seemed to recover, but I can't be for sure.

Yea it might've been the 3rd year where I heard about him in "trade rumors" to like NY. He's not that far removed from his 2nd year and he's 24. I'm optmistic about him but I just would like to know how it turned so sour for him. Collison is in a similar situation but from what i've heard he was simply in the wrong system. Hard to use that excuse for Mayo when he never got traded and been on the same team since his rookie year.

mac222b · 07-16-2012, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

It may be something we'll regret in the future. But at this point, who would you rather have going into battle with you? Roddy or Delonte?

Let's poll the players, in fact, let's ask Dirk. I think we all know what his answer would be.

Again, I'm not hating on Roddy and his potential. But he may turn out to be one of those guys that will excel after a change in scenery. As of right now however, he's not going anywhere. He's still a Maverick--I just rather give those minutes to Delonte (who is a solid veteran, constantly plays hurt, and we know what to expect with him each night).

Let's not act like West doesnt have his warts-- and im not just talking about off court stuff. He's a streaky shooter, has a tendency to pound the rock and sometimes puts "getting his" over being a distributor. I remember many times last season that he passed up getting the ball to Dirk when he had good position or mismatch in favor of an off-balance jumper off the dribble.

I too value the toughness and versatility Delonte brings and i like his fearless attitude and sense of humor slightly askew. I hope they bring him back.

You could say some of the negatives about Delonte apply to Roddy, difference being we havent seen Roddy's ceiling yet. He could very easily be a top 6th man ala Jet or Lou Williams that is the 2nd or 3rd option on a playoff team. Maybe as soon as this season.

chumdawg · 07-16-2012, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Did Fish really just call Mayo the "best Mavs 2-guard since Finley"? Good god.

He's working really hard for that eleven cents today.

jthig32 · 07-16-2012, 11:36 PM

Was one report somewhere that it's one year with a player option for a second year.

I would expect something like that. The only way the Mavs are getting Mayo at 4.5Mil is on a very short deal where he has the control. He's looking to re-trench over a year or two and get a big deal.

sike · 07-16-2012, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

I mean, I get that the guy is a tweener guard....but come on, fish.

Come one, dub...let the man drink his cool aid in peace. It's orange flavored.

sike · 07-16-2012, 11:40 PM

That works.

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Was one report somewhere that it's one year with a player option for a second year.

I would expect something like that. The only way the Mavs are getting Mayo at 4.5Mil is on a very short deal where he has the control. He's looking to re-trench over a year or two and get a big deal.

LonghornDub · 07-16-2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

He's working really hard for that eleven cents today.

In the words of someone you know well, "You ain't never lied."

mac222b · 07-16-2012, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Was one report somewhere that it's one year with a player option for a second year.

I would expect something like that. The only way the Mavs are getting Mayo at 4.5Mil is on a very short deal where he has the control. He's looking to re-trench over a year or two and get a big deal.

That would be ideal. Love having all of these cats in contract years.

alby · 07-16-2012, 11:45 PM

2 year deal. Second year is a player option. Year 1 will be ~4M.

That is a steal, ladies and gentlemen. A steal.

mac222b · 07-16-2012, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

2 year deal. Second year is a player option. Year 1 will be ~4M.

That is a steal, ladies and gentlemen. A steal.

Nice!

Bayliss · 07-16-2012, 11:47 PM

My onhly question: why did he tell Phx he wanted more than 8 million a year?

alby · 07-16-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Let's not act like West doesnt have his warts-- and im not just talking about off court stuff. He's a streaky shooter, has a tendency to pound the rock and sometimes puts "getting his" over being a distributor. I remember many times last season that he passed up getting the ball to Dirk when he had good position or mismatch in favor of an off-balance jumper off the dribble.

I too value the toughness and versatility Delonte brings and i like his fearless attitude and sense of humor slightly askew. I hope they bring him back.

You could say some of the negatives about Delonte apply to Roddy, difference being we havent seen Roddy's ceiling yet. He could very easily be a top 6th man ala Jet or Lou Williams that is the 2nd or 3rd option on a playoff team. Maybe as soon as this season.

Agreed. But the crux of the argument is the fact that we haven't seen Roddy's ceiling yet. What if we have? And so what if we haven't? Is this the year? Is next year? We just don't know and that's why I choose Delonte over Roddy because he is a known commodity. I'm not saying Delonte is make it or break it, there's a reason why he'll be getting only 2.5M from the Mavericks if he elects to re-sign, I'm merely just pointing out what is known versus what is unknown.

Furthermore, I can guarantee that every guy in that locker room would choose Delonte as well.

Dtownsfinest · 07-16-2012, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

My onhly question: why did he tell Phx he wanted more than 8 million a year?

Looking at their guard situation and i'm looking at ours? Also the fact that we may be a playoff contender? Seems like the Mavs are a more ideal situation than the Suns. Did Phoenix even entertain that 8 million though?

grndmstr_c · 07-16-2012, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

2 year deal. Second year is a player option. Year 1 will be ~4M.

That is a steal, ladies and gentlemen. A steal.

That's confirmed?

I'm not a big Mayo fan, but I had been looking at him as probably the #3 non-vet-on-his-last-contract-looking-to-piggy-back-to-a-championship-with-the-Heat SG on the market, and never thought he'd be available on a deal like that.

Sweet.

sike · 07-16-2012, 11:57 PM

Well you see, alby, Mayo isn't really that good at all...let me show you some stats that show you that I really understand basketball and you don't. (I want to punch those people.)

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Originally Posted by alby

2 year deal. Second year is a player option. Year 1 will be ~4M.

That is a steal, ladies and gentlemen. A steal.

Dtownsfinest · 07-16-2012, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

That's confirmed?

I'm not a big Mayo fan, but I had been looking at him as probably the #3 non-vet-on-his-last-contract-looking-to-piggy-back-to-a-championship-with-the-Heat SG on the market, and never thought he'd be available on a deal like that.

Sweet.

I remember when he was in High School dominating. They were discussing how he may come straight out of high school into the league. Not sure if this was before or after the 1 year collegiate deal they have now but he was expected to be the next big thing in high school.

At 24, I believe he still believes he can be more than just a spot up shooter for Wade and Lebron. I believe he thinks he can be a Lebron or Wade. He's far too young to be hopping on that bandwagon.

alby · 07-17-2012, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

Well you see, alby, Mayo isn't really that good at all...let me show you some stats that show you that I really understand basketball and you don't. (I want to punch those people.)

I know you're being sarcastic but even if he wasn't all that great it's still considered a steal. When you can sign a starting caliber player or even a 6th man at 4M, it's a steal.

JET, at age 34, agreed to a three-year deal at 5M per. Kidd same length.

No matter how the haters will spin it, this was an absolute steal.

pepe · 07-17-2012, 12:03 AM

Mayo-DC-West--Roddy-DoJo-DaJo-Cunnigham

Let them battle

jthig32 · 07-17-2012, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by alby

I know you're being sarcastic but even if he wasn't all that great it's still considered a steal. When you can sign a starting caliber player or even a 6th man at 4M, it's a steal.

JET, at age 34, agreed to a three-year deal at 5M per. Kidd same length.

No matter how the haters will spin it, this was an absolute steal.

The player option tempers it a tiny, tiny bit. But yeah, that's a great signing.

sike · 07-17-2012, 12:05 AM

I'm all for that. BUT what I'm seeing is a young stud ready to re-establish his game.

The change of scenery/uniform is going to do him good.

The "Dirk Bump" is going to do him good.

I don't know the story on how his game got lost in MEM, but I'm pumped to see him find it again in Big D!

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Originally Posted by alby

I know you're being sarcastic but even if he wasn't all that great it's still considered a steal. When you can sign a starting caliber player or even a 6th man at 4M, it's a steal.

JET, at age 34, agreed to a three-year deal at 5M per. Kidd same length.

No matter how the haters will spin it, this was an absolute steal.

chumdawg · 07-17-2012, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by alby

I know you're being sarcastic but even if he wasn't all that great it's still considered a steal. When you can sign a starting caliber player or even a 6th man at 4M, it's a steal.

JET, at age 34, agreed to a three-year deal at 5M per. Kidd same length.

No matter how the haters will spin it, this was an absolute steal.

Good point, Alby. Good point.