GDT: Clippers @ Mavericks Game 4 - Page 3 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

SMC0007 · 05-30-2021, 10:21 PM

This Mav team is the first one that made me leave a playoff game in the 3rd quarter. Pathetic.

Dallas41 · 05-30-2021, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

KP is -26

and yet Greg Anthony has stated he's been one of their few good players tonight

That +/- has more to do with the terrible players who've been on the floor with him tonight as opposed to own doing

Dallas41 · 05-30-2021, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayinem

Clippers have regained homecourt disadvantage.

LOL

yeah it's just a matter of time before one these teams win at home

and the one who does it 1st is going to win this series

EricaLubarsky · 05-30-2021, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayinem

Clippers have regained homecourt disadvantage.

Good thing we’re good on the road

SMC0007 · 05-30-2021, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Regular season inconsistent lack of effort Mavs have struck again

I'm sure we are going to hear Rick say "it's on me to get them ready to play"

I'm sure we are going to hear 1-2 players say "We lacked energy and effort"

Dude. You're so quick to jump on Rick but not KP, get fn real.

Scoobay · 05-30-2021, 10:26 PM

starting lineup is 1-17 from 3. that's not going to win anything.

EricaLubarsky · 05-30-2021, 10:26 PM

13% from three

This team is totally bewildering.

Mavs either shoot 45% or under 20%. That’s it. Those are the only options

FreshJive · 05-30-2021, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

I think it's time to give Ty Lue credit

He has made the adjustments these two games after everyone said RC has owned him.

Now we wait to see if RC can counter game 5

I think it’s time that you stop furiously masterbating every time the Mavs fail at something or an opponent makes a basket.

JTmoney2424 · 05-30-2021, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Dude. You're so quick to jump on Rick but not KP, get fn real.

KP is getting paid as well like a top 10 player and yet he is nothing more than a role player. Just imagine if he was as good as his contract. This team would be up 3-0 now.

Dallas41 · 05-30-2021, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Dude. You're so quick to jump on Rick but not KP, get fn real.

you were at the game up close and personal are you saying KP was the biggest issue again tonight?

Was he the reason why all the Clippers were driving inside and scoring?

Sure KP can get some blame but the top 5 coach isn't beyond blame either especially when you throw out a gimmick midget ball lineup expecting them to defend KL and George.

Your distaste for him I guess mirrors my distaste for the coach who has the longest rope in the NBA after Pop

I guess that's what 1 Title can do for you now days in Dallas sports

JTmoney2424 · 05-30-2021, 10:39 PM

Kleber with a solid 0 points in 33 minutes

tap2390 · 05-30-2021, 10:40 PM

Mann with 13 minutes but Green can’t get 5 to change up a look on Kawhi/ PG? Are you serious?

Lue has outclassed Carlisle the past two games. We have no response to their 5 wing lineup. And we haven’t even tried the right combinations. Fucking garbage.

MFFL · 05-30-2021, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

For what?

We have no assets and blowing it up would guarantee Doncic leaves

I mean if you’d rather be terrible for 10 years rather than mediocre for a couple, then that’s a choice.

You think Luka wants to play with THIS team? Would this team even win 25% of their games without him?

You can find plenty of role players who can mesh with Luka and we'll STILL be a fringe playoff team. But these players have zero ability to play defense and Luka should be the only starting player who is below average defensively

MFFL · 05-30-2021, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JTmoney2424

KP is getting paid as well like a top 10 player and yet he is nothing more than a role player. Just imagine if he was as good as his contract. This team would be up 3-0 now.

THJ is making $19m this year and has ONE made shot tonight and hasn't played defense yet

Porzingis is tied for 28th

BPo001 · 05-30-2021, 10:50 PM

Fucking Rondo waving to the fans that are leaving. Is it possible to hate that guy any more?

Simon2 · 05-30-2021, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Mann with 13 minutes but Green can’t get 5 to change up a look on Kawhi/ PG? Are you serious?

Lue has outclassed Carlisle the past two games. We have no response to their 5 wing lineup. And we haven’t even tried the right combinations. Fucking garbage.

What’s wrong with Dwight. He always gives energy but haven’t seen him. Also, Green might provide a spark. Mavs lost their swagger. Gone a the gold old days of ‘You’re too f*cking small’

Skywalker · 05-30-2021, 10:52 PM

As pathetic as it is to see this team just lay down and accept the beating anyone who has watched them this season could see it coming from a mile away.

Dallas41 · 05-30-2021, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

THJ is making $19m this year and has ONE made shot tonight and hasn't played defense yet

Porzingis is tied for 28th

I read the other day that Cuban said he's confident he'll be able to resign THJ.

I think one of the NBA sites had him getting paid $20 million a year on his next contract

So I expect this roster to much the same again next year without much change

FreshJive · 05-30-2021, 10:57 PM

If Luka’s neck doesn’t improve, the Mavs are likely fucked. The 0-5 free throws were telling. They weren’t even close.

Dallas41 · 05-30-2021, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Mann with 13 minutes but Green can’t get 5 to change up a look on Kawhi/ PG? Are you serious?

Lue has outclassed Carlisle the past two games. We have no response to their 5 wing lineup. And we haven’t even tried the right combinations. Fucking garbage.

They need a 3rd option defensively beyond DFS and Kleber because neither one of those guys have faired well at all vs KL and George.

Lue played Mann just to see if someone can stop Luka or get under his skin.

I'm sure there's a lot of doubt as to how effective Green would be on either one of those guys but you don't know unless you try right?

I recall Cory Brewer having that one great moment vs the Lakers which turned out to be a key stage of that series after he rode the bench all playoffs.

But to me I would have thrown Green out there a few times at home to see how responds

Maybe he lights a fire in the team with his energy activity who knows

JTmoney2424 · 05-30-2021, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

THJ is making $19m this year and has ONE made shot tonight and hasn't played defense yet

Porzingis is tied for 28th

How crazy is it that he makes about the same as Joel Embiid

Simon2 · 05-30-2021, 11:02 PM

Do you guys remember when the Utah Jazz were beating up on Dirk and the Mavs? The clippers are the Jazz of these Mavs. The Mavs have to learn from these games.

Skywalker · 05-30-2021, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

They need a 3rd option defensively beyond DFS and Kleber because neither one of those guys have faired well at all vs KL and George.

Lue played Mann just to see if someone can stop Luka or get under his skin.

I'm sure there's a lot of doubt as to how effective Green would be on either one of those guys but you don't know unless you try right?

I recall Cory Brewer having that one great moment vs the Lakers which turned out to be a key stage of that series after he rode the bench all playoffs.

But to me I would have thrown Green out there a few times at home to see how responds

Maybe he lights a fire in the team with his energy activity who knows

I wonder how J.Johnson mightve fared in this situation. But hey at least we have Redick in street clothes on the bench

tap2390 · 05-30-2021, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

They need a 3rd option defensively beyond DFS and Kleber because neither one of those guys have faired well at all vs KL and George.

Lue played Mann just to see if someone can stop Luka or get under his skin.

I'm sure there's a lot of doubt as to how effective Green would be on either one of those guys but you don't know unless you try right?

I recall Cory Brewer having that one great moment vs the Lakers which turned out to be a key stage of that series after he rode the bench all playoffs.

But to me I would have thrown Green out there a few times at home to see how responds

Maybe he lights a fire in the team with his energy activity who knows

Not playing Green isn't the only sin. We need to match their wing heavy lineup with Kleber at the 5 to have a chance at making the proper defensive rotations. They are killing us in the paint because Porzingis/ Boban rotate way too slowly on the perimeter leaving them free to drive when others try to scramble and cover.

Lue has adjusted, Carlisle has not.

Dallas41 · 05-30-2021, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

If Luka’s neck doesn’t improve, the Mavs are likely fucked. The 0-5 free throws were telling. They weren’t even close.

Hopefully a few days off will solve the problem.

Not sure if it's something that a muscle relaxer with a few massages can solve but will find out in the next few days

I didn't have a great feeling about this series headed back to Dallas because the Mavs haven't played well at home

Hopefully they can steal game 5 and close it out in 6 with one great game for once at home that's the only way I see them winning the series.

Dallas41 · 05-30-2021, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

I wonder how J.Johnson mightve fared in this situation. But hey at least we have Redick in street clothes on the bench

That trade never made any sense to me

But hey they said he brought tons of playoff experience and the ability to hit open 3's if called upon.

turin · 05-30-2021, 11:17 PM

The series will be over in 6. The Mavs got their outlier shooting games right out of the gate for a 2-0 lead. They're done now. The only question in my mind is if the Mavs can keep at least one of the next 2 losses in single digits. 50-50 chance. I think there's at least one more blowout coming.

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DevinHarriswillstart · 05-30-2021, 11:27 PM

Can't believe I paid money to go to that game. Probably the worst game I've been to at least in recent memory. Yikes.

It is surprising though that people are still ripping KP when THJ wasn't even D-league quality tonight. No way I extend him because he is sooooo ridiculously hot and cold. Team NEEDS him to play well, and you can't rely on someone that will literally vanish. And nobody knows why either. How do you go from being that third guy to absolutely nothing? It's seriously the most perplexing thing I've ever seen in the NBA.

SMC0007 · 05-30-2021, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

you were at the game up close and personal are you saying KP was the biggest issue again tonight?

Was he the reason why all the Clippers were driving inside and scoring?

Sure KP can get some blame but the top 5 coach isn't beyond blame either especially when you throw out a gimmick midget ball lineup expecting them to defend KL and George.

Your distaste for him I guess mirrors my distaste for the coach who has the longest rope in the NBA after Pop

I guess that's what 1 Title can do for you now days in Dallas sports

Yes. I've said all season that the coach should get some blame. I've been right there with you. Anyone with a brain can see this. But your free pass for KP is just like those who give RC a free pass. The dude FN sucks. Stop giving him as much rope as you give RC. KP is actually on the floor and can make a difference but outside of the first 2 possessions which I consider a gimmick, they got exposed.

I'm not going to fault Doncic, he looked tight and quite frankly hurt and he might have shot literally 18% during warm ups. We sat there watching him during his scheduled warm up time and he missed 80+% of his open free shots. From that I could tell he wasn't going to have it. DFS isn't that guy, he can pitch in but like Maxi and THJ, they aren't difference makers consistently vs good teams.

Dtownsfinest · 05-30-2021, 11:37 PM

The talent discrepancy doesn't rear its ugly head until you see Luka have a bad game.

For the life of me I do not understand how KP isn't a mismatch every single night. How he doesn't dominate every single night. The Clippers literally have no one woh can guard him. No team does. Then you see Paul George on him and he doesn't know what to do....he needs to be at that Hakeem Olajuwon camp ASAP.

Dtownsfinest · 05-30-2021, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Can't believe I paid money to go to that game. Probably the worst game I've been to at least in recent memory. Yikes.

It is surprising though that people are still ripping KP when THJ wasn't even D-league quality tonight. No way I extend him because he is sooooo ridiculously hot and cold. Team NEEDS him to play well, and you can't rely on someone that will literally vanish. And nobody knows why either. How do you go from being that third guy to absolutely nothing? It's seriously the most perplexing thing I've ever seen in the NBA.

I think the issue is we expect TH to play like he does. He's a streaky jump shooter. We probably should expect KP to play like he has been....but its still hard to fathom because we or maybe I should say I still see him as a legit All Star in this league....

Dtownsfinest · 05-30-2021, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

I wonder how J.Johnson mightve fared in this situation. But hey at least we have Redick in street clothes on the bench

I don't know if he changes the outcome of this series but two guys this offseason we brought in that I thought would bring some much needed toughness to a soft team were James Johnson and Richardson......

DevinHarriswillstart · 05-30-2021, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

The talent discrepancy doesn't rear its ugly head until you see Luka have a bad game.

For the life of me I do not understand how KP isn't a mismatch every single night. How he doesn't dominate every single night. The Clippers literally have no one woh can guard him. No team does. Then you see Paul George on him and he doesn't know what to do....he needs to be at that Hakeem Olajuwon camp ASAP.

It's a system problem for KP as much as it is KP sucking and not giving effort. How many big men have flourished under Rick? I can assure you the list is small.

But at least KP was one of the few people not afraid to shoot the ball tonight. I couldn't believe how many shots were passed up because they were playing scared. A team that plays scared will NEVER succeed in the playoffs.

Dtownsfinest · 05-30-2021, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

It's a system problem for KP as much as it is KP sucking and not giving effort. How many big men have flourished under Rick? I can assure you the list is small.

But at least KP was one of the few people not afraid to shoot the ball tonight. I couldn't believe how many shots were passed up because they were playing scared. A team that plays scared will NEVER succeed in the playoffs.

To be honest...I don't recall Carlisle even having that many good big men to begin with.

SMC0007 · 05-30-2021, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Can't believe I paid money to go to that game. Probably the worst game I've been to at least in recent memory. Yikes.

It is surprising though that people are still ripping KP when THJ wasn't even D-league quality tonight. No way I extend him because he is sooooo ridiculously hot and cold. Team NEEDS him to play well, and you can't rely on someone that will literally vanish. And nobody knows why either. How do you go from being that third guy to absolutely nothing? It's seriously the most perplexing thing I've ever seen in the NBA.

Umm yea. If you read Twitter dip shits, they will tell you "max THJ" garbage. That we have to re sign him etc. It's a blessing that we can actually draw a line at what he makes right now. Idc If he shot 25 of 28 in the last 2 games to close out this round and move on. 2 years at 18mil is all I'm offering. The main reason is because he is one dimensional and at the same time we can't afford to overpay anyone else because KP is getting massively overpaid.

How can anyone watch this team in the POs and say they're surprised that KP is getting ripped? The mrfr makes MAX money. He doesn't make a difference unless he is getting free looks offensively.

D_D_D · 05-30-2021, 11:43 PM

It's crazy to me this.... I barely hear Luka on the radio after the game, but I heard him answering questions about his neck and whatever, and said it's a little pain but he's fine, and that he just played really bad.... But then the radio host said that during Rick's postgame, Carlisle said Luka couldn't even turn his neck to the left to look left, it was that bad, apparently... I dunno, pretty cool of Luka to not bitch about something that's obviously seriously affecting his gameplay IMO

FreshJive · 05-30-2021, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Hopefully a few days off will solve the problem.

Not sure if it's something that a muscle relaxer with a few massages can solve but will find out in the next few days

I didn't have a great feeling about this series headed back to Dallas because the Mavs haven't played well at home

Hopefully they can steal game 5 and close it out in 6 with one great game for once at home that's the only way I see them winning the series.

I saw a video from the 3rd quarter from game 3 where Casey Smith runs up to Luka with a pill and a water bottle. It may have been a muscle relaxer, but it seems like something that could throw you off in basketball as opposed to football.

Luka said that he felt better today than yesterday, so those massages were at least doing something.

SMC0007 · 05-30-2021, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

It's a system problem for KP as much as it is KP sucking and not giving effort. How many big men have flourished under Rick? I can assure you the list is small.

But at least KP was one of the few people not afraid to shoot the ball tonight. I couldn't believe how many shots were passed up because they were playing scared. A team that plays scared will NEVER succeed in the playoffs.

Id answer with an easy one.... The best player our franchise has ever seen. Dirk. Unfortunately KP isn't even a pimple on Dirks ass.

Dtownsfinest · 05-30-2021, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Umm yea. If you read Twitter dip shits, they will tell you "max THJ" garbage. That we have to re sign him etc. It's a blessing that we can actually draw a line at what he makes right now. Idc If he shot 25 of 28 in the last 2 games to close out this round and move on. 2 years at 18mil is all I'm offering. The main reason is because he is one dimensional and at the same time we can't afford to overpay anyone else because KP is getting massively overpaid.

How can anyone watch this team in the POs and say they're surprised that KP is getting ripped? The mrfr makes MAX money. He doesn't make a difference unless he is getting free looks offensively.

I mean it depends because I honestly don't believe in free agency they can even get a player the caliber of Tim Hardaway Jr.

FreshJive · 05-30-2021, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

It's a system problem for KP as much as it is KP sucking and not giving effort. How many big men have flourished under Rick? I can assure you the list is small.

But at least KP was one of the few people not afraid to shoot the ball tonight. I couldn't believe how many shots were passed up because they were playing scared. A team that plays scared will NEVER succeed in the playoffs.

Dirk was pretty decent. I also seem to recall some tall guy from SoCal doing pretty well here. Bryson Mandler?