06-24-2009, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
making fun of 92bdad is all good and well, but why ignore his larger point?
That is, unless you think the Christianists at this site are just trying to scare us into a religious war, all boogidy boogidy:
Ex-Gitmo Detainee, Al-Shihri, Joins Al Qaeda In Yemen
after all
A) "a sight claims to be Christian"
and B) "I don't know who the terrorist experts are"
strongly implies C) "it's just political propaganda," right?
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what exactly is the "larger point"? is it that the united states must jail every religious extremist encountered?
after all, the person you reference has not broken any us law. he did not attack us, as far as we know he has not attacked any amercans....he has not been tried nor convicted of any criminal act.
should we preemptively jail anybody who might act in the future?
no, I do not believe we should.
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06-24-2009, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mavdog
what exactly is the "larger point"? is it that the united states must jail every religious extremist encountered?
after all, the person you reference has not broken any us law. he did not attack us, as far as we know he has not attacked any amercans....he has not been tried nor convicted of any criminal act.
should we preemptively jail anybody who might act in the future?
no, I do not believe we should.
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well, that's certainly better than the nanny-nanny boo-boo trolling.
I think he was originally captured because someone thought that he'd trained in a terrorist camp, and that he was helping to fund and transport terrorists.
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06-24-2009, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
well, that's certainly better than the nanny-nanny boo-boo trolling.
I think he was originally captured because someone thought that he'd trained in a terrorist camp, and that he was helping to fund and transport terrorists.
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yeah, "someone thought"...
repeating, he was neither tried nor convicted of any crime, and further there was no crime committed on american soil either.
the question really is why anyone took him into custody, shipped his ass half way around the world, and interned him for what? 7 years, after which they realized they couldn't prove any crime and then sent him to saudi arabia.
those actions seem to be more criminal than anything this guy has been shown to have done.
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06-24-2009, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mavdog
the question really is . . .
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The question really is whether this should all be treated as a war on terror or as a criminal case on terror.
You simply cannot win a war by taking every individual through their own personal episode of law and order.
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06-24-2009, 06:14 PM
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The question really is whether this should all be treated as a war on terror or as a criminal case on terror.
You simply cannot win a war by taking every individual through their own personal episode of law and order.
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the treatment should be as per the existing laws and treaties we are party to.
if that requires a "personal episode of law and order", sobeit.
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06-24-2009, 09:41 PM
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the treatment should be as per the existing laws and treaties we are party to.
if that requires a "personal episode of law and order", sobeit.
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uh, yeah. If it were clear, there would be no argument.
I think Obama's outrage is being shipped to Bagram, by the way. Is yours following?
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06-25-2009, 09:50 AM
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uh, yeah. If it were clear, there would be no argument.
I think Obama's outrage is being shipped to Bagram, by the way. Is yours following?
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what is not clear? we follow our laws, we follow the geneva convention.
me, I don't really have any "outrage". do you?
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