What is really going on with Brendan Haywood

[dude1394]

Haywood's problem is about the same as the dirksters. He is a good on ball defender but a pretty poor help defender. He also isn't a very good shot blocker because he is so slow off his feet, not a good pnr defender and doesn't play above the rim.

Other than that he's great.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Haywood's problem is about the same as the dirksters. He is a good on ball defender but a pretty poor help defender. He also isn't a very good shot blocker because he is so slow off his feet, not a good pnr defender and doesn't play above the rim.

Other than that he's great.

You nailed it, and he also sometimes gets lazy and doesn't get under the basket to protect the rim. I defended this guy for most of the season, but he came up short this season when it really counted. I didn't hear of any new serious injury he was playing through. The 5 position can Not collapse like that because, then it puts even more pressure on Dirk.

Hard to gauge how much blame to put on the lockout in regards to a player's overall performance this season. All things considered, I'm 50/50 on Haywood. I just don't want to see the same type of playoff performance this time next year unless you can get an upgrade. I just don't see Ian taking us to the promised as the starting center until he learns to stop accumulating stupid fouls.

[bobatundi]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Hard to gauge how much blame to put on the lockout in regards to a player's overall performance this season. All things considered, I'm 50/50 on Haywood. I just don't want to see the same type of playoff performance this time next year unless you can get an upgrade. I just don't see Ian taking us to the promised as the starting center until he learns to stop accumulating stupid fouls.

True...but...Ian may cost us a few points per game with stupid fouls, but at least he doesn't cost us 5-6 points per game from the line, not to mention being so utterly awful at the line that we don't even play him when the game is close. I really hope the next FT attempt I see from Brendan Haywood comes after he is fouled by a Dallas Maverick.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by bobatundi

True...but...Ian may cost us a few points per game with stupid fouls, but at least he doesn't cost us 5-6 points per game from the line, not to mention being so utterly awful at the line that we don't even play him when the game is close. I really hope the next FT attempt I see from Brendan Haywood comes after he is fouled by a Dallas Maverick.

To be fair, Haywood shot 5-8 (63%) from the charity stripe in the 2012 playoffs...

Although Mahinmi shot 11-13 (85%), so we obviously have better options when it comes to offense.

[bobatundi]

Originally Posted by Underdog

To be fair, Haywood shot 5-8 (63%) from the charity stripe in the 2012 playoffs...

Although Mahinmi shot 11-13 (85%), so we obviously have better options when it comes to offense.

Haywood shot 47% from the line for the regular season, which is much more indicative of his ability there than a small sample from the playoffs (5-8 means he hit one more than you'd expect out of those 8, which I chalk up to randomness and not any improvement on his part).

And don't get me started on our Starting Center attempting 8 FTs in 4 games. That's pathetic.

[jacktruth]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Haywood's problem is about the same as the dirksters. He is a good on ball defender but a pretty poor help defender. He also isn't a very good shot blocker because he is so slow off his feet, not a good pnr defender and doesn't play above the rim.

Other than that he's great.

Yea, he also has a tendency to think he's an offensive player. He gets the ball and thinks, "here's my time to show them what I have." He usually shows what he doesn't have, but that doesn't stop him from trying it again. Most centers of his skill set know enough to get the ball in someone else's hands--anyone!

I would almost prefer if he just alerts the team in advance that he's going to turn the ball over so they can get back on defense, then he can just hand it to an opposing player. A controlled turnover.

[JeffViggiano]

no more 'wood please...

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by JeffViggiano

no more 'wood please...

That's what she said...?

[saclare]

Originally Posted by Underdog

That's what she said...?

"that's what" - she