would you trade josh howard for tracy mcgrady?

[Dirkenstien]

T-Mac, Francid and Landry for Stackhouse, Ager and Terry.

Ouch, that's a tough one because Stack and Terry are obviously valuable to what we're doing in Dallas and are high character guys, but the thought of T-Mac (when healthy) Dirk and Howard playing together is very enticing.

Possible lineup:

Damp / Diop
Dirk / Bass / Juwan Howard
Howard / George
T-Mac / Jones
Harris / Francis / JJB

[Robillion]

no.. that trade happens in second. but forget about mcgrady for howard. No.

[fluid.forty.one]

If we didn't have Dirk, yes I would do this... Since we DO have Dirk, no I wouldn't.

[antoinewalker]

here's an interesting fact that many people don't know: tracy mcgrady is less than a year older than josh howard.

people seem to forget that josh howard was a 4-year player at wake forest. he has blossomed a lot later than tmac so he's commonly mistaken for being younger than he really is.

[me770706]

age is irrelevant in this situation because one player misses a lot of games and one does not

[horse900703]

Rockets fan wants to trade T-mac~~

[Robillion]

how is this thread still active?

[antoinewalker]

Originally Posted by Robillion

how is this thread still active?

why wouldn't it be?

[AxdemxO]

I would have to do it...I love Howard but Man T Mac healthy has an overall game thats hard to match and knowing tht he would be close to a title by coming here would motivate him.

[thereaper]

Originally Posted by horse900703

Rockets fan wants to trade T-mac~~

Says your location is "VA", as in VA Hospital?

[Robillion]

VA could quite possibly be the acronym for Virginia.

[Dirkenstien]

Wow. Looks like the Rockets may be wishing they could get Rudy Gay back. That trade is starting to come back to bite them.

[horse900703]

Originally Posted by thereaper

Says your location is "VA", as in VA Hospital?

that~~~~

[bernardos70]

LOL!

[seelenjaeger]

T-Mac is injury prone, "old" and no playoff guy.

I´d trade Terry, Stack and two first rounders for him though (works under the cap, gives immediate cap relief for Houston and could work fine with their roster).

Actually, give our current depth, you could also think about adding Brandon Bass - I really like that guy, but he might draw some interest, so why not cashing in the 2nd round find.

[shaw-xx]

No trade for patients and losers...

[Robillion]

I asked earlier why this thread was still active because 1) Tracy McGrady is not going to be traded and 2) We should NOT even consider trading Howard unless we got more than McGrady and THAT would not happen 3)Any combo of other players we have wouldnt cut it. Soooo .. whats the point? .. we dont need any divas, too many teams are being brought down by divas, and we dont need to be one of them.

[antoinewalker]

Originally Posted by Robillion

I asked earlier why this thread was still active because 1) Tracy McGrady is not going to be traded and 2) We should NOT even consider trading Howard unless we got more than McGrady and THAT would not happen 3)Any combo of other players we have wouldnt cut it. Soooo .. whats the point? .. we dont need any divas, too many teams are being brought down by divas, and we dont need to be one of them.

if you read my original post, i stated that this was not a trade i was seriously proposing. it was merely a thought that came up between me and a few friends so i wanted to see how everyone else felt about it.

your 2nd and 3rd reasons aren't legit reasons. basically you said this thread should not be active because dallas should not trade josh howard for tracy mcgrady. lol, if that's how you feel, then just say that and vote in the poll. don't say "no, i don't think we should trade josh howard for tracy mcgrady so this thread should not still be alive." that makes no sense.

[alby]

antoine speaks the truth.

[Robillion]

ok.. carry on with a bad pipe dream. Ill stop letting it annoy me. .. i mean yeah it was definitely worth mentioning at first. And even some thought put to it. but Im just surprised it keeps being discussed as all i meant..

If McGrady could be in Dallas in any other way than giving up Harris/Howard/Dirk... then Id be all for it though. But we might as well make a thread about lebron, dwight howard, and paul pierce and figure out what combo of players works on Real gm and make a thread about it. A deal other than howard in it and/or Harris in it would not happen. I do not believe.

[alby]

it's a discussion board, the antoine walker merely started a thread in hopes of a good discussion. why are you annoyed?

[Robillion]

c'mon now im not annoyed at all at antoinewalker making the thread. Just that people keep replying back all serious with high hopes apple pie in the sky scenarios for someone that would not really be good for us. One of the biggest problems that people say about the Mavericks is their tuffness.. so lets trade away our toughest player for one of the softest players in the league that is not even available, ok. Its fun to hypothesize and throw together trade scenarios for players that would be good for us. But when they arent, and people talk about trading away pretty much someone that should be untouchable on the team. Thats when it can be kinda annoying I guess you can say. If we trade away Howard.. what we get in return should be almost completely unfair for the other team. Until then we should keep him around.

[alby]

What I've read is that most people wouldn't give up Howard for Tracy.

[Robillion]

yeah after review again of the thread the majority are against a howard-mcgrady trade, as they should be. hence why this thread is just going to be a repeat discussion over and over. Thats why i said it originally. but if Tracy McGrady was in fact available.. the Rockets were in fact shopping him, and he was in fact miserable in Houston and said he would love in dallas. Then yeah lets give them the vorn horn contract and call it even. .. hehe

[Mickey]

Howard´s body is much younger. Even if McGrady has the same age, his body is much older and beaten.

No way. But i would trade Stack and 3 magic beans for him.

[guntfighter]

This thread is retarded and antoine walker is the biggest spare in the league. I would do the Stackhouse/Ager/Terry deal though.

[antoinewalker]

Originally Posted by guntfighter

This thread is retarded and antoine walker is the biggest spare in the league. I would do the Stackhouse/Ager/Terry deal though.

the thought that the rockets would accept that trade is retarded.

[me770706]

agreed. no one wants to receive stackhouse as the primary part of a trade give me a break

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by me770706

agreed. no one wants to receive stackhouse as the primary part of a trade give me a break

So, instead of Stackhouse/Ager/Terry would you do Terry/Ager/Stackhouse?

[aexchange]

the rockets aren't idiots.

they arent going to take howard straight up for tmac and they the thought that they would even entertain a crackhouse/terry trade is downright laughable.

im amazed by the constant overrating of howard. he's blossomed as a nice player in the league, but i and almost any other non mavericks fan out there would pull the trigger on tmac being a better player than howard.

the funniest part of this thread has been the person who wants the thread to die is the one who keeps bumping it. am i being levelled here or what? am i being rick rolled?

[Tokey41]

Talent isn't the question it's durability... and it's pretty clear Tmac doesn't have that going for him.

And once again you can't underestimate how important it is that he has not been able to win a playoff series... he's had some GREAT opportunities to do so. In fact, this year was supposed to be his best chance yet! But wait, his team isn't even in the playoff picture as of today!

If the Rockets were smart they would look for a trade with Tmac involved, but if that meant giving up Josh here? They should keep looking.

[G-Man]

Hard to believe TMaq is just 11 months older than Josh, or that he missed only 6 fewer games in the last 3 seasons.

T_maq sometimes moves like he's 35. It's been a while since the Mavs faced him when he was effective. I would be really surprised if he ever again played like he did against the Mavs in he playoffs.

Howard, on the other hand, may never play that well either, but he looks like a guy with 10 years left. If TMaq announced tomorrow he has to retire, would would really be surprised?

[mavsjunkie]

I'd make that trade before the words could come out of Houston's mouth. A guy who requires double teams on a constant basis. A guy who can slash, paired with a speedy slasher/passer like Harris, it would be a match made in heaven.

Imagine Harris and McGrady coming straight at you with Nowitzki spotting up, or Terry spotting up, OMG.

[antoinewalker]

lately, it seems like a lot of people have now turned their back on josh howard so i'm curious to see if anyone who voted "no" wants to change their mind. i know i'm digging up an old thread so if that is frowned upon, i apologize in advance.

[Robillion]

Id change my mind now.. when this thread was made, Josh was putting up career numbers.

[spreedom]

Josh is about the most frustrating player on the Mavs to me. With all of the hype he gets (especially locally) about being such a great defender, he seems to get beaten off of the dribble and lit up by just about every average scorer in the league... not to mention he is a serious black hole on offense. I don't think I'd want McGrady's stink in town right now, but I'd definitely consider something along the lines of Howard for... well, a good defender that doesn't shoot it every time he touches it.

[fluid.forty.one]

I voted yes.

[wmbwinn]

Josh has to settle into the new look Mavs offense that actually passes the ball and plays as a team.
He has to be successful for the Mavs to play at a playoff competitive level. He has the skill set. He needs a coach to help him through this.
Trading him would be incredibly stupid in my opinion. Of course, if a Kidd deal comes along, then anything is possible. I didn't want to lose Devin but having Kidd just rocks. So, anything is possible.

[scorched03]

he plays max 50% of the games. think of that if u were avery or fellow mav. great player, but 1/2 the games?

[horse900703]

After Lakers game, I say "YES"............