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2006 NFL Predictions
Well, we usually do this, so I figured I'd start this years.
1st, the NFC EAST
DAL 10-6
Phi 9-7
WAS 8-8
NYG 6-10
Dallas finally gets back on top, while the Giants fall out of the race due to their tough early schedule
NFC DIV winners
DAL
CHI
CAR
SEA
Wild cards
Phi
Min
AFC DIV Winners
NE
PIT
IND
DEN
Wild Cards
CIN
KC
NFC PLAYOFFS
CHI over MIN
CAR over PHI
CAR over SEA
DAL over CHI
DAL over CAR
AFC PLAYOFFS
CIN over NE
IND over KC
CIN over PIT
IND over DEN
IND over CIN
Superbowl
DALLAS over INDY
superbowl MVP
T................
ROY WILLIAMS
picks off Manning to ice the game
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09-07-2006, 11:44 PM
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NFC Division Winners
Cowboys
Bears
Panthers
Seahawks
Wild Cards
Falcons
Giants (Cardinals are my sleeper pick to possibly take this spot)
AFC Division Winners
Colts
Steelers
Broncos
Patriots
AFC Wild cards
Bengals
Chargers
NFC Playoffs
Cowboys over Giants
Bears over Falcons
Panthers over Cowboys
Seahawks over Bears
Panthers over Seahawks
AFC Playoffs
Bengals over Patriots
Steelers over Chargers
Colts over Steelers
Bengals over Broncos
Colts over Bengals
Superbowl
Panthers over Colts
MVP: Steve Smith of the Panthers
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09-08-2006, 07:52 AM
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cowboys in the super bowl! haha! i wish though...
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09-08-2006, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by nashtymavsfan13
NFC Division Winners
Cowboys
Bears
Panthers
Seahawks
Wild Cards
Falcons
Giants (Cardinals are my sleeper pick to possibly take this spot)
AFC Division Winners
Colts
Steelers
Broncos
Patriots
AFC Wild cards
Bengals
Chargers
NFC Playoffs
Cowboys over Giants
Bears over Falcons
Panthers over Cowboys
Seahawks over Bears
Panthers over Seahawks
AFC Playoffs
Bengals over Patriots
Steelers over Chargers
Colts over Steelers
Bengals over Broncos
Colts over Bengals
Superbowl
Panthers over Colts
MVP: Steve Smith of the Panthers
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also agree about Cardinals. good job.
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09-08-2006, 08:54 AM
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The cards arent a sleeper. Everyone i know is saying they are a sleeper which means they arent. Personally I would go with
Washington
minnesotta
Tampa
St Louis
Wildcards
Seattle
Minny
Afc
Colts
NE
Cincy
Denver
Wildcards
Pittsburg
Jacksonville
Colts over the bucs in the super bowl.
mvp-regular season, Tom Brady
Mvp Super Bowl- Peyton manning
First fired coach, Brian Billick
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09-08-2006, 09:37 AM
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NFC:
Cowboys (although I would pick New York if they didn't have such a brutal opening part of their schedule)
Chicago
Carolina
Seattle
Wildcards - Midgets, Bucs
AFC
Miami
Cincy
Implanted Baltimore Colts
Denver - once Cutler takes over for sure....
Wildcards (man, what a strong conference they are..... I remember when they were the American Foofoo Conference) - Pitt and New England
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09-08-2006, 09:46 AM
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NFC:
Philly
Minnesota
Carolina
Seattle
Wildcards - Dallas, St. Louis
AFC
New England
Cincinatti
Indy
San Diego
Wildcards - Pittsburg, Denver
Cincinatti over Caroline in Super Bowl
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09-08-2006, 10:47 AM
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Colts over the bucs in the super bowl.
mvp-regular season, Tom Brady
Mvp Super Bowl- Peyton manning
First fired coach, Brian Billick
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I haven't gotten the chance to see the Bucs yet in the pre-season..... but this isn't the first time I've heard this pick before. I look forward to seeing them play, because this opinion is becoming more popular.
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09-08-2006, 10:55 AM
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Washington/ *New York (Dallas 8-8)
Chicago
Carolina/ *Atlanta
Seattle
New England
Cincinati/ *Pittsburgh
Indianapolis
Denver/ *Kansas City
Carolina over New York
Indianapolis over Cincinnati
Carolina over Indianapolis
MVP: Carson Palmer
DPOY: Shawne Merriman
OPOY: Steve Smith
DROY: Ernie Simms
OROY: Vince Young
COY: Herm Edwards
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09-08-2006, 11:28 AM
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lol slow down on the rookie of the year there.....
23 of the last 30 rookies of the year have been running backs
only ONE in the last 30 years has been a quarterback (Ben R. Pittsburgh)
So I'm going to go ahead and say there's no way in hell Vince Young wins rookie of the year. Ill happily eat my words at the end of the season if I get proven wrong.
I'd go with DeAngelo Williams, or Bush, etc....
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09-08-2006, 11:49 AM
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I'd go with DeAngelo Williams, or Bush, etc....
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Considering Reggie can't out-hustle a Diet Pepsi machine, I'd say his chances are slim.
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09-08-2006, 01:26 PM
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Considering Reggie can't out-hustle a Diet Pepsi machine, I'd say his chances are slim.
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lol, ok, fair point sir.
it still isn't going to be Vince Dung
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09-08-2006, 01:32 PM
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Vince Dung
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Hahaha..... that was real creative how you dropped the "Yo" part of Vince's last name replacing it with a D.... which turned "Young" into "Dung".... to show your contempt for the Tennessee QB. Man that was creative... and oh, so funny.
Did anyone else catch that? Wasn't that cunning?
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09-08-2006, 01:33 PM
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-takes a bow-
thank you
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09-08-2006, 01:33 PM
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Man, U2 seems grumpy lately.
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09-08-2006, 01:36 PM
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Nah.... I just wanted to make sure Flaco's work didn't go unnoticed. That would have been wasteful.
Personally, although I love Young and what he did for Texas.... I expect Cutler to win ROY.
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09-08-2006, 01:51 PM
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Nah.... I just wanted to make sure Flaco's work didn't go unnoticed. That would have been wasteful.
Personally, although I love Young and what he did for Texas.... I expect Cutler to win ROY.
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Cutler wont play it will be either williams or white. Leinart is my sleeper though. When warner gets hurt, he cant help but be good with all those weapons.
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09-08-2006, 01:54 PM
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I think Plummer is going down early this year.....
But I've been wrong before.
edit: Maybe I should have pulled a Flaco and called Plummer "Dumper"....... THAT would have been equally as creative I think. And madape (DarthApe, whatever) might have thought I was talking about our backup Center.
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09-08-2006, 02:00 PM
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Cutler wont play it will be either williams or white. Leinart is my sleeper though. When warner gets hurt, he cant help but be good with all those weapons.
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I hope you're right....but..... I mean it's the Cardinals.
I was living in Phoenix the day the Cardinals came to town (1988)..... and... that was the high point of the franchise.
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09-08-2006, 02:02 PM
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I hope you're right....but..... I mean it's the Cardinals.
I was living in Phoenix the day the Cardinals came to town (1988)..... and... that was the high point of the franchise.
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I know the feeling and thats why i didnt pick them to make the playoffs despite everyone else doing that. That said, leinart is arguably the greatest player in the history of cfb and he is going to a team with the best starting wideouts in the nfl(yes fitz and boldin are better than harrison and wayne) a HOF rb and a monster TE. I know the oline has problems but ill be shocked if he doesnt put up huge numbers when he gets to play.
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09-08-2006, 02:03 PM
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Yeah youre right about that. The Cards have the O-line disease worse than the the Cowboys do.
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09-08-2006, 02:15 PM
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5-0, the best WR tandem in the league may well be here in Dallas.
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09-08-2006, 02:20 PM
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5-0, the best WR tandem in the league may well be here in Dallas.
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Nope. Boldin is better than glenn and fitz is TOs equal at least.
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09-08-2006, 02:37 PM
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Nope. Boldin is better than glenn and fitz is TOs equal at least.
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09-08-2006, 02:49 PM
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Im assuming you are disagreeing with the fitz and TO part, Fitz led the league in receptions and was i believe second in yards last year as a second year receiver. He is at least as good as TO. Boldin is EASILY better than glenn.
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09-08-2006, 02:55 PM
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Im assuming you are disagreeing with the fitz and TO part, Fitz led the league in receptions and was i believe second in yards last year as a second year receiver. He is at least as good as TO. Boldin is EASILY better than glenn.
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I'll take the crafty, cocky, playoff experienced vets.
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09-08-2006, 03:06 PM
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I'll take the crafty, cocky, playoff experienced vets.
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Ill take the younger faster beasts.
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09-08-2006, 03:54 PM
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Would be pretty funny if the dolphins won the superbowl on some questionable calls.
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09-08-2006, 06:12 PM
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5-0, the best WR tandem in the league may well be here in Dallas.
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Fitz and Boldin are definetly better. Wayne and Harrison, CJ and TJ, and Steve Smith and Keyshawn could also be argued for as well.
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09-08-2006, 06:13 PM
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also agree about Cardinals. good job.
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Thanks
I agree with cap about Palmer being MVP. He and Steve Smith will have big years again, and I'm hoping for a Carolina-Cincy Super Bowl too, Smith and Palmer are two of my fav players
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09-08-2006, 08:16 PM
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NFC Division Winners
Cowboys
Vikings
Panthers
Seahawks
Wild Cards - Giants, Falcons
AFC Division Winners
Patriots
Colts
Steelers
Broncos
Wild Cards - Bengals, Jaguars
NFC Championship - Cowboys over Seahawks
AFC Championship - Patriots over Steelers
SuperBowl - Cowboys over Patriots
SuperBowl MVP - Terry Glenn
MVP - Peyton Manning
DPOY - Shawne Merriman
OPOY - Shaun Alexander
DROY - Jason Allen
OROY - Reggie Bush
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09-08-2006, 11:43 PM
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Fitz and Boldin are definetly better. Wayne and Harrison, CJ and TJ, and Steve Smith and Keyshawn could also be argued for as well.
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Some national guy, though I forget who, came out this week saying that TO and Glenn were the top duo.
You have to consider what Glenn did last year with the likes of Keyshawn (mostly a possession guy and not much of a home-run threat) across from him. And also consider that Parcells says he is playing better than he ever has before in his career.
I'll just say this. If the Cowboys duo isn't the best in the league, it's not because of Glenn. I believe that Glenn is the best #2 receiver in the league, and it's not even close. He can do everything. He has enough quickness to get separation in the short routes, and the hands to never drop the passes. And we all know what pain and suffering the defenses will endure if they let Glenn loose going deep.
So there's that.
Now, with this Owens thing, he is being discounted because of history and because he hasn't played in a while. I can understand that. But in his last game he took a ball 91 yards for a score. I think he put up 170 yards or something. Before he was put down for the season, he was on pace for 1700+ yards and 14+ scores. And that was without Glenn, Witten, et al. in the patterns with him!
I don't think too many people fully realize just how wickedly evil Owens and Glenn could be in this offense. The league may have never seen this sort of destruction before, and may never again.
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Now, with this Owens thing, he is being discounted because of history and because he hasn't played in a while. I can understand that. But in his last game he took a ball 91 yards for a score. I think he put up 170 yards or something. Before he was put down for the season, he was on pace for 1700+ yards and 14+ scores. And that was without Glenn, Witten, et al. in the patterns with him!
I don't think too many people fully realize just how wickedly evil Owens and Glenn could be in this offense. The league may have never seen this sort of destruction before, and may never again.
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Good Stuff! Couldnt agree more.
I am so anxious for this season to start, more than any season in a long time.
Only two more days until realization of wickedly evilness! Wooooooo!
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09-09-2006, 01:30 AM
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Some national guy, though I forget who, came out this week saying that TO and Glenn were the top duo.
You have to consider what Glenn did last year with the likes of Keyshawn (mostly a possession guy and not much of a home-run threat) across from him. And also consider that Parcells says he is playing better than he ever has before in his career.
I'll just say this. If the Cowboys duo isn't the best in the league, it's not because of Glenn. I believe that Glenn is the best #2 receiver in the league, and it's not even close. He can do everything. He has enough quickness to get separation in the short routes, and the hands to never drop the passes. And we all know what pain and suffering the defenses will endure if they let Glenn loose going deep.
So there's that.
Now, with this Owens thing, he is being discounted because of history and because he hasn't played in a while. I can understand that. But in his last game he took a ball 91 yards for a score. I think he put up 170 yards or something. Before he was put down for the season, he was on pace for 1700+ yards and 14+ scores. And that was without Glenn, Witten, et al. in the patterns with him!
I don't think too many people fully realize just how wickedly evil Owens and Glenn could be in this offense. The league may have never seen this sort of destruction before, and may never again.
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Chummy, I know what TO can do, I'm a Niners fan and he was my favorite Niner while he was with them. That national guy has his own opinion, just like you and me. I know what TO can do, I know what Glenn can do and they are going to be a great duo. One of the tops in the league. It's my opinion that you are slightly overrating Glenn. To say he's better than Boldin is ignorance in my opinion. Glenn is a very good receiver, but Boldin is an elite receiver. Boldin and Fitz are clearly the top duo in my opinion, and their are many duos that could be considered the second best, with TO and Glenn being one strong contender.
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Some national guy, though I forget who, came out this week saying that TO and Glenn were the top duo.
You have to consider what Glenn did last year with the likes of Keyshawn (mostly a possession guy and not much of a home-run threat) across from him. And also consider that Parcells says he is playing better than he ever has before in his career.
I'll just say this. If the Cowboys duo isn't the best in the league, it's not because of Glenn. I believe that Glenn is the best #2 receiver in the league, and it's not even close. He can do everything. He has enough quickness to get separation in the short routes, and the hands to never drop the passes. And we all know what pain and suffering the defenses will endure if they let Glenn loose going deep.
So there's that.
Now, with this Owens thing, he is being discounted because of history and because he hasn't played in a while. I can understand that. But in his last game he took a ball 91 yards for a score. I think he put up 170 yards or something. Before he was put down for the season, he was on pace for 1700+ yards and 14+ scores. And that was without Glenn, Witten, et al. in the patterns with him!
I don't think too many people fully realize just how wickedly evil Owens and Glenn could be in this offense. The league may have never seen this sort of destruction before, and may never again.
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I know how much you love glenn and thats cool. I have the same feelings when people argue that barry sanders was better than emmitt. The thing about boldin and fitz is that they are both the beats kind of receiver where as TO is a beast kind of receiver and Glenn is a little quick receiver. You could make the argument that one of each is better but i would prefer both guys being absolute studs which the arizona guys are. If i was ranking the starting receiving corps I would go with Arizona, Indy, Dallas, Cincy, Carolina in that order for my top 5.
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I know how much you love glenn and thats cool. I have the same feelings when people argue that barry sanders was better than emmitt. The thing about boldin and fitz is that they are both the beats kind of receiver where as TO is a beast kind of receiver and Glenn is a little quick receiver. You could make the argument that one of each is better but i would prefer both guys being absolute studs which the arizona guys are. If i was ranking the starting receiving corps I would go with Arizona, Indy, Dallas, Cincy, Carolina in that order for my top 5.
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No he wasnt and it wasnt as close as most think. When Emmitt was at his peak there was no argument. Barry aged better because his style of running will always age better for the same reason that it is less valuable.
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No he wasnt and it wasnt as close as most think. When Emmitt was at his peak there was no argument. Barry aged better because his style of running will always age better for the same reason that it is less valuable.
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Barry's style of running was predicated by his awful offensive line. He was forced to run that way most years of his career in order to have any kind of success.
And neither RB aged better. Emmit fell off quicker because he was far more dependant on a great OLine. When that went away, Emmit was no longer as effective.
Put Barry Sanders behind the greatest offensive line of all time, and but Emmit Smith behind the Lions line, with their idiot head coach, their terrible QB, and their terrible teams in general where they were always behind. Do that, and people talk about Barry Sanders in the same vein as Jerry Rice, as in there's absolutely no debate as who the best RB of all time is.
That's all just my opinion, obviously, but I don't understand how people discount the line Emmit ran behind when comparing the two.
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Barry's style of running was predicated by his awful offensive line. He was forced to run that way most years of his career in order to have any kind of success.
Put Barry Sanders behind the greatest offensive line of all time, and but Emmit Smith behind the Lions line, with their idiot head coach, their terrible QB, and their terrible teams in general where they were always behind. Do that, and people talk about Barry Sanders in the same vein as Jerry Rice, as in there's absolutely no debate as who the best RB of all time is.
That's all just my opinion, obviously, but I don't understand how people discount the line Emmit ran behind when comparing the two.
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I hate the greatest oline of all time BS that people use when discounting emmit. Emmitts best years were 91-95 and not a single starter from those years will make the hof when i believe 4 or 5 of the 60s packers Olineman went to the hall. If you want to discount emmitts success thats fine, just put 3 or 4 of those olineman in the hall and i will be ok. You will also notice that when emmitt aged that oline quit being so great. Emmitt has a very legitimate argument for being the best rb of all time though i will leave that for Brown even though i didnt see him.
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Originally Posted by Five-ofan
I hate the greatest oline of all time BS that people use when discounting emmit. Emmitts best years were 91-95 and not a single starter from those years will make the hof. If you want to discount emmitts success thats fine, just put 3 or 4 of those olineman in the hall and i will be ok. You will also notice that when emmitt aged that oline quit being so great. Emmitt has a very legitimate argument for being the best rb of all time though i will leave that for Brown even though i didnt see him.
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I'm not necessarily discounting Emmit. I do believe he has a claim. But if you don't believe that that OLine was great, then I don't know what to say.
Will any of Denver's OLinemen from the '00 - '05 seasons be making the HOF? Because their line, plus their scheme, made good RB's out of spares.
Here's my main point. The overall RB stats are close. Their averages, their yards, etc. But, Emmit ran as part of one of the great offenses of all time, and Barry ran for a bad team.
This, if nothing else, means you can't put Emmit significantly ahead of Barry. You just can't.
Last edited by jthig32; 09-09-2006 at 07:55 AM.
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