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Old 07-01-2022, 10:53 AM   #1
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And for anyone wondering about the power of Rick Brunson over Jalen...

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1542882235669532672

The fault is letting daddy manage you like that. Proposing a deal that wasn't even allowed in the CBA certain adds a layer to this mess.
Brunson was tired of Luka being his daddy
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Brunson was tired of Luka being his daddy
I know this won't be a popular opinion but both KP and JB wanted more of a bigger role for their futures.

Brunson mighty not have been as vocal as KP but at the end of the day they both wanted the same thing (bigger role/be the lead guy)

Moving forward despite having Luka I just don't think top players are going to flock here unless it's through a trade.

KD never mentioned Dallas

Kyrie might have just stated Dallas because he was throwing teams together but he was never serious about wanting to come here.

Lavine and Beal same situation I just don't think those types of guys will make Dallas their 1st or 2nd choice.

THis stuff happened with Dirk as well and yes we consider Luka a super star but when we say why wouldn't other stars want to play with Luka well I just don't think he has that type of gravit/pull around the league.

Luka is ball dominant and it does take certain type of players to play with him. I do commend JB because he really did a great job adjusting to playing off Luka which most other guys like a Lavine or Beal might not be willing to adjust.

I could be wrong but I feel as if the Mavs will always have to win with depth alongside Luka as opposed to a 2nd star player actually coming here willingly on his own.

This is heady right down the same path as Dirk and we just have to hope that one of these rosters with role players playing out of their minds one year will be enough to get Luka that ring here in Dallas.

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Old 07-01-2022, 01:59 PM   #4
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I know this won't be a popular opinion but both KP and JB wanted more of a bigger role for their futures.

Brunson mighty not have been as vocal as KP but at the end of the day they both wanted the same thing (bigger role/be the lead guy)

Moving forward despite having Luka I just don't think top players are going to flock here unless it's through a trade.

KD never mentioned Dallas

Kyrie might have just stated Dallas because he was throwing teams together but he was never serious about wanting to come here.

Lavine and Beal same situation I just don't think those types of guys will make Dallas their 1st or 2nd choice.

THis stuff happened with Dirk as well and yes we consider Luka a super star but when we say why wouldn't other stars want to play with Luka well I just don't think he has that type of gravit/pull around the league.

Luka is ball dominant and it does take certain type of players to play with him. I do commend JB because he really did a great job adjusting to playing off Luka which most other guys like a Lavine or Beal might not be willing to adjust.

I could be wrong but I feel as if the Mavs will always have to win with depth alongside Luka as opposed to a 2nd star player actually coming here willingly on his own.

This is heady right down the same path as Dirk and we just have to hope that one of these rosters with role players playing out of their minds one year will be enough to get Luka that ring here in Dallas.
I can see wanting a bigger role for yourself, don't really care about Brunson at this point. People keep bringing up we could have signed him mid season, just like DoDo. What has been the sole source for that? Rick fucking Brunson..."multiple reports" but all with the same source. I doubt it went down that way...

KD is a bitch and picked the two top seeds as his destinations. He's a ring chaser. For all his talent, I hope he gets looked down upon when it's all said and done when discussing top players of all time.

Kyrie was heavily linked to Dallas, Mavs said fuck no.

Lavine and Beal were never going to sign elsewhere, super maxes exist for a reason and they'd be leaving way too much on the table to go elsewhere. Look for them to be on different teams by year 3 of their respective deals.

I think Beal would actually be a perfect fit to Luka tbh all other players need the ball in their hands to create and succeed. I'm sure he'll be a target in a year or two.

I do think Luka will have more pull than Dirk did just because he's already rubbing elbows in all-star games and events since he's a teenager. And I don't share the same sentiment players won't be enticed to play with a top 3 player in the league and what is becoming one of the more player friendly, top coaching staffs in the league. Mavs will be fine. Need to gain the flexibility back, it will be helpful to be able to trade picks now.
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I can see wanting a bigger role for yourself, don't really care about Brunson at this point. People keep bringing up we could have signed him mid season, just like DoDo. What has been the sole source for that? Rick fucking Brunson..."multiple reports" but all with the same source. I doubt it went down that way...

KD is a bitch and picked the two top seeds as his destinations. He's a ring chaser. For all his talent, I hope he gets looked down upon when it's all said and done when discussing top players of all time.

Kyrie was heavily linked to Dallas, Mavs said fuck no.

Lavine and Beal were never going to sign elsewhere, super maxes exist for a reason and they'd be leaving way too much on the table to go elsewhere. Look for them to be on different teams by year 3 of their respective deals.

I think Beal would actually be a perfect fit to Luka tbh all other players need the ball in their hands to create and succeed. I'm sure he'll be a target in a year or two.

I do think Luka will have more pull than Dirk did just because he's already rubbing elbows in all-star games and events since he's a teenager. And I don't share the same sentiment players won't be enticed to play with a top 3 player in the league and what is becoming one of the more player friendly, top coaching staffs in the league. Mavs will be fine. Need to gain the flexibility back, it will be helpful to be able to trade picks now.
So you're saying it's a lie that we didn't offer him 4 years/55 mil. So that means we did offer him 4 years/55 mil and he turned it down. Where are the reports that that happened anywhere? Just give me one. How do you guys seem to know that the source all leads back to Rick Brunson and that he was lying yet you have no proof of your claim.

Per ESPN?s Tim MacMahon, The former Villanova star was eligible to sign a $55.5 million extension with the Mavs last summer, but they never even discussed it with Brunson after his playoff struggles against the Clippers. That said, once he broke out in January and started to thrive, Dallas came calling with the new deal right after the trade deadline in February. However, Brunson simply wanted to finish the season and focus on the task at hand.

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Old 07-01-2022, 02:47 PM   #6
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So you're saying it's a lie that we didn't offer him 4 years/55 mil. So that means we did offer him 4 years/55 mil and he turned it down. Where are the reports that that happened anywhere? Just give me one. How do you guys seem to know that the source all leads back to Rick Brunson and that he was lying yet you have no proof of your claim.

Per ESPN?s Tim MacMahon, The former Villanova star was eligible to sign a $55.5 million extension with the Mavs last summer, but they never even discussed it with Brunson after his playoff struggles against the Clippers. That said, once he broke out in January and started to thrive, Dallas came calling with the new deal right after the trade deadline in February. However, Brunson simply wanted to finish the season and focus on the task at hand.
Makes sense if Dallas offered a deal to him and also extended DFS at the same time. All of it is bad timing, and Donnie Nelson is still ultimately responsible.

What is inexcusable is basically trashing us at the end not giving us a meeting. His dad just didn't like us and wanted him in NY. I mean, our 110 was more than their 104 offer overall, so it's really not about the money. I'm sure the Mavs woulda come up a bit too, but even 5/125 wasn't going to change anything.
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