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SMC0007 · 07-05-2017, 08:21 AM

Anyway to get Hardaway Jr.?

tap2390 · 07-05-2017, 08:32 AM

76'ers sign 2016 first rounder Turkish sharpshooting SG Furkan Korkmaz. They've built an extremely intriguing team.

As for Hardaway, he really tore it up the second half of the season, but IMO his game is too similarly to Seth's to justify paying him $15 million a year. If you can get him for $7-12 I'd jump on it.

EricaLubarsky · 07-05-2017, 09:05 AM

What are the odds that Brooklyn-- with its clueless GM throwing ridiculous contracts around-- loses Porter and makes a ridiculous offer on Noel.

sefant77 · 07-05-2017, 09:10 AM

Pretty high, they have nobody at center (except Mozgovs corpse)

saclare · 07-05-2017, 10:01 AM

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What are the odds that Brooklyn-- with its clueless GM throwing ridiculous contracts around-- loses Porter and makes a ridiculous offer on Noel.

That's why I'm hoping Wiz don't match, but they have to, I think. Noel is going to get a max offer with how the rest of FA has gone...

Bryan_Wilson · 07-05-2017, 10:26 AM

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BPo001 · 07-05-2017, 11:26 AM

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What are the odds that Brooklyn-- with its clueless GM throwing ridiculous contracts around-- loses Porter and makes a ridiculous offer on Noel.

I think they have too much money invested at Center with Mozgov's contract to offer Noel the max. I've read they plan to chase KCP next.

BPo001 · 07-05-2017, 11:36 AM

Alex Kennedy: The Hawks have shown interest in restricted free agent Nerlens Noel, according to sources. The Mavericks can match any offer sheet. – via Twitter AlexKennedyNB

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-05-2017, 12:06 PM

It'll be interesting to see what happens with Alex Len. He and Noel are both young and similar productioned centers that haven't full blossomed yet. You'd think the deals would be similar.

tap2390 · 07-05-2017, 12:25 PM

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Personally I'd move Crowder. Nice contract and all. You have Hayward, Brown and Tatum locked up for years at 3/4. Horford at 4/5.

Keep the young defensive minded guards and let it shake itself out. You have time to figure who to pay what. IT, Rozier, Smart and Bradley is a damn nice rotation and keeps them in title contention for this season as well.

Word on the street is Celtics are looking to move Crowder. I'm all aboard the Salah + protected picks for Crowder train.

Edit: I'd do our 2018 pick with top-20 protection otherwise it turns into our 2018 & 2019 second rounders.

EricaLubarsky · 07-05-2017, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Word on the street is Celtics are looking to move Crowder. I'm all aboard the Salah + protected picks for Crowder train.

Edit: I'd do our 2018 pick with top-20 protection otherwise it turns into our 2018 & 2019 second rounders.

Crowder and Smart.

Crowder being the more interesting of the two and on a sweet contract. 7mill is an absolute bargain.

Not sure how that works out with Noel hanging over our heads. He counts against our cap bigly until he signs a contract or we decline. We'd need to be under the cap enough to absorb him. Trading tit for tat won't work, because they need to dump salary. They not only have too many forwards, they also don't have the money to actually sign Hayward unless they dump 2-3 medium-sized contracts.

tap2390 · 07-05-2017, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Crowder and Smart.

Crowder being the more interesting of the two and on a sweet contract. 7mill is an absolute bargain.

Not sure how that works out with Noel hanging over our heads. He counts against our cap bigly until he signs a contract or we decline. We'd need to be under the cap enough to absorb him. Trading tit for tat won't work, because they need to dump salary. They not only have too many forwards, they also don't have the money to actually sign Hayward unless they dump 2-3 medium-sized contracts.

My understanding is they only need to move one of Smart or Crowder and they are leaning towards Crowder. (This is assuming they renounce Young, Olynk, and Jerekpo).

EricaLubarsky · 07-05-2017, 01:51 PM

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My understanding is they only need to move one of Smart or Crowder and they are leaning towards Crowder. (This is assuming they renounce Young, Olynk, and Jerekpo).

I think they have to move one and waive three or trade two, but they're shopping Crowder and Smart. Maybe they see who has more value or is a cheaper dump?

minkbarn · 07-05-2017, 02:12 PM

The Celtics have to renounce Young, Olynyk, Jerebko, and Green. Then they have to also trade Crowder OR Bradley OR Smart.

If it's for money, Bradley would be the first moved. He's a free agent after this year.

Crowder has the most time on his favorable contract, but he's fairly redundant positionally, although he could play a lot of smallball 4.

It could be any of the three that go, but at least one almost surely will have to be traded, and with little or no salary coming back.

The one moved might simply be the one that returns the best deal.

EricaLubarsky · 07-05-2017, 02:51 PM

I wonder what Olynyk would cost in free agency. Think he'd accept the vet min

minkbarn · 07-05-2017, 02:57 PM

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I wonder what Olynyk would cost in free agency. Think he'd accept the vet min

He's getting a lot. He'll be overpaid, but he'll be paid.

spreedom · 07-05-2017, 04:08 PM

Monta waived by the Pacers

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-05-2017, 07:07 PM

Waiters 4/52 to Miami. Finally something reasonable.

EricaLubarsky · 07-05-2017, 07:33 PM

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Monta waived by the Pacers

Can't say I have sympathy. Not Robdo bad, but pouting is one of my pet peeves.

tap2390 · 07-05-2017, 09:07 PM

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Waiters 4/52 to Miami. Finally something reasonable.

On the basketball court, he is my least favorite player in the league. Just a complete "irrational confidence" guy.

tap2390 · 07-05-2017, 09:08 PM

My guess is ultimately Smart and/or Crowder go to Utah in a S&T for Hayward. I really don't know who wins that trade (if both are sent to the Jazz). Utah will lack scoring, but will be the best defensive squad in the league by a mile.

EricaLubarsky · 07-05-2017, 09:43 PM

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My guess is ultimately Smart and/or Crowder go to Utah in a S&T for Hayward. I really don't know who wins that trade (if both are sent to the Jazz). Utah will lack scoring, but will be the best defensive squad in the league by a mile.

BYC makes it hard with just two teams but may actually work out well for salary dumping purposes

Underdog · 07-05-2017, 11:31 PM

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My guess is ultimately Smart and/or Crowder go to Utah in a S&T for Hayward. I really don't know who wins that trade (if both are sent to the Jazz). Utah will lack scoring, but will be the best defensive squad in the league by a mile.

@wojespn: Jazz, Celtics engage on Gordon Hayward sign-and-trade for Jae Crowder. Latest story with @ramonashelburne

Underdog · 07-05-2017, 11:34 PM

@wojespn: Andre Roberson has agreed to a new three-year, $30M deal with Oklahoma City, league sources tell ESPN.

tap2390 · 07-05-2017, 11:55 PM

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@wojespn: Andre Roberson has agreed to a new three-year, $30M deal with Oklahoma City, league sources tell ESPN.

If he can hit fts at 75% and 3s at 37% he's worth every dime.

Last seasons he shot 42% (!!!!) from the FT line and 25% from 3. He's an elite defender but probably the worst shooting guard I've ever seen my life in college or the NBA.

dirt_dobber · 07-06-2017, 08:02 AM

re: Andre Roberson
Loved it when Dirk told him he played against his dad in an exhibition game in Germany.

dirt_dobber · 07-06-2017, 08:04 AM

wonder where Monta Ellis will end up and for how much?

MavzMan · 07-06-2017, 08:39 AM

Monta would be a good fit for Cleveland. They need scoring off the bench in a really bad way. I forget how it works but if he clears waivers, does he get paid that money plus whatever his new teams pays him? So vet min would probably be fine if that is the case.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-06-2017, 08:53 AM

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On the basketball court, he is my least favorite player in the league. Just a complete "irrational confidence" guy.

Totally agree, but at least he isn't making 20+ million a year so there is that.

dirt_dobber · 07-06-2017, 09:45 AM

how about Deron Williams? not many people looking at him. Did not show well in the playoffs.

tap2390 · 07-06-2017, 10:02 AM

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how about Deron Williams? not many people looking at him. Did not show well in the playoffs.

No thank you. Between Smith, Yogi, JJ, and Harris we may have a logjam already. We need to give Smith minutes.

dirt_dobber · 07-06-2017, 10:15 AM

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No thank you. Between Smith, Yogi, JJ, and Harris we may have a logjam already. We need to give Smith minutes.

Yeah, sorry - I was not suggesting Deron for us - just wondering where he will land. He may have to wait until after start of season - see if another pg gets hurt on another team or something.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-06-2017, 10:43 AM

Deron could get a 1 year deal from a team who needs to just spend some money. But I really wonder if anyone contending really wants him as even a backup at this point. He looked cooked last year in the post season. And he lost his job to a guy on a 10day contract. I like Yogi but that says a lot about how far Dwill has dropped to me.

Underdog · 07-06-2017, 06:44 PM

@wojespn: Free agent Kelly Olynyk has agreed to a four-year, $50M-plus deal with the Miami Heat, agent Greg Lawrence tells ESPN.

tap2390 · 07-06-2017, 07:09 PM

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@wojespn: Free agent Kelly Olynyk has agreed to a four-year, $50M-plus deal with the Miami Heat, agent Greg Lawrence tells ESPN.

Underdog · 07-06-2017, 07:17 PM

@wojespn: Free agent forward Rudy Gay has agreed to a two year deal with the Spurs, league sourcs tell ESPN.

@wojespn: Sources: Rudy Gay's deal with the Spurs: two-years, $17M-plus with a player option.

Underdog · 07-06-2017, 07:30 PM

@wojespn: Free agent Vince Carter has agreed to a one-year, $8M deal with Sacramento, agents Kurt Schoeppler and Jim Tanner tell ESPN.

BPo001 · 07-06-2017, 07:34 PM

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@wojespn: Free agent Vince Carter has agreed to a one-year, $8M deal with Sacramento, agents Kurt Schoeppler and Jim Tanner tell ESPN.

That's too bad. Would have liked to see Vince play on a better team at this stage in his career.

tap2390 · 07-06-2017, 07:38 PM

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@wojespn: Free agent Vince Carter has agreed to a one-year, $8M deal with Sacramento, agents Kurt Schoeppler and Jim Tanner tell ESPN.

Glad to see Vince get one more pay day. He'll be a good mentor to the young Sac kids.

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@wojespn: Free agent forward Rudy Gay has agreed to a two year deal with the Spurs, league sourcs tell ESPN.

@wojespn: Sources: Rudy Gay's deal with the Spurs: two-years, $17M-plus with a player option.

Great move by the Spurs. Being able to play Gay/Kawhi at the 3/4 will be huge in the playoffs.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-06-2017, 07:38 PM

Ball stopper Rudy Gay with the Spurs? I can't see it.