Mavs Re-Sign Haywood - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

jthig32 · 07-08-2010, 12:21 PM

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The Dallas Mavericks have reached agreement on a six-year, $55 million contract to re-sign center Brendan Haywood(notes), a league source told Yahoo! Sports.

Haywood came to Dallas in the middle of last season in a trade that also delivered Caron Butler(notes) and DeShawn Stevenson(notes) to the Mavericks. Haywood averaged 8.1 points, 7.4 rebounds and 2.0 blocks during 28 games for the Mavericks.

With Erick Dampier’s(notes) contract not guaranteed for this season, Haywood figures to play an even more prominent role for the Mavericks.

Dallas was aggressive in re-signing Haywood by having coach Rick Carlisle meet with him in Charlotte, N.C., on the first day of free agency. Haywood, 30, was possibly the top center on the market and was also courted by the Miami Heat and Cleveland Cavaliers.

Prior to being traded to Dallas, Haywood spent his first 8½ seasons with the Washington Wizards.

SMC0007 · 07-08-2010, 12:25 PM

I am happy about this, but I was starting to think Gortat.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-08-2010, 12:26 PM

I thought it might be that high when I talked of Varajao getting a similar contract last summer. Das a lottttta money, but I guess you have to pay big men in this league.

sefant77 · 07-08-2010, 12:27 PM

Damn, was hoping for 4 years + 5th as dustchip.

Now i really hope his 6th is again a dustchip

Underdog · 07-08-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

I am happy about this, but I was starting to think Gortat.

Haywood/Gortat would be a nice tandem - it's still possible to get him if we're talking about the MLE...

EDIT: F*CK YEAH!!! 1A and 1B are wrapped up - let's go spend that DUST Chip!

twistaeffect2004 · 07-08-2010, 12:29 PM

Not a big fan of the years, but Haywood is a quality big man. Those are rare in today's game. Glad to have him back with us.

BGMaverick9 · 07-08-2010, 12:31 PM

Good news and I think the price is right...based on the previous signings with big men, it's a steal.

I'd still love to have Gortat come in and get solid minutes as a backup. At least we're set with our starting center, suitable options are around for a backup. Gotta focus on using DUST and Butler to get us a SG.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-08-2010, 12:31 PM

There are a lot of decent back-up centers available. I'd be fine with Gorat, B. Miller, Ben Wallace, Shaq, etc.

Rick41 · 07-08-2010, 12:33 PM

Excellent! Let's get shaq to back him up now. Or Gortat if possible.

ItGetzReal · 07-08-2010, 12:43 PM

Well its good they got him locked up . 9 mil a year not too bad. I thought haywood would get 11 mil per yr for 6 yrs from cubes. Now all we need is to grab one of the O'neals for back up.

LetsGoMavs · 07-08-2010, 12:50 PM

Phew...that's a lot of money - does anybody know if the last year of his contract is non-guaranteed?

SMC0007 · 07-08-2010, 12:51 PM

But does Gortat really want to come here and back up Haywood? I doubt it, I'm sure he believes he's a starter and I'm not sure I disagree. I also can see what Bob Sturm is saying that Haywood possibly has some give up in him, or maybe some Damp in him... he has his contract now how hard is he going to work?

jthig32 · 07-08-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

But does Gortat really want to come here and back up Haywood? I doubt it, I'm sure he believes he's a starter and I'm not sure I disagree. I also can see what Bob Sturm is saying that Haywood possibly has some give up in him, or maybe some Damp in him... he has his contract now how hard is he going to work?

Why does it mater what Gortat wants?

Having said that, I doubt the Mavs want to commit four years to Gortat at this point. I think Damp's back for part of the MLE.

sefant77 · 07-08-2010, 12:53 PM

I want informations about the 6th year.

And i still prefer to get Jefferson now and trying to work out a big 3 roation where no one is pissed

Dirk/Jefferson
Jefferson/Haywood

jthig32 · 07-08-2010, 12:55 PM

Art Garcia just tweeted that the final year is not fully guaranteed.

LonghornDub · 07-08-2010, 12:56 PM

$9 mil a year is a pretty fair price for Wood, IMO. I mean he's probably really only worth about $6-7 in terms of his skills, but we all know big men come at a premium in today's NBA.

Underdog · 07-08-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Why does it mater what Gortat wants?

Having said that, I doubt the Mavs want to commit four years to Gortat at this point. I think Damp's back for part of the MLE.

Gimme Shaq for part of the MLE instead of Damp...

sefant77 · 07-08-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Art Garcia just tweeted that the final year is not fully guaranteed.

huge surprise

jthig32 · 07-08-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Gimme Shaq for part of the MLE instead of Damp...

I disagree. There's too much circus with Shaq.

FINtastic · 07-08-2010, 01:03 PM

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$9 mil a year is a pretty fair price for Wood, IMO. I mean he's probably really only worth about $6-7 in terms of his skills, but we all know big men come at a premium in today's NBA.

Yeah, unfortunately the Mavs weren't going to be able to get him at where he probably should have been valued. I just am glad we didn't have to go over $10 million per year to sign him. That would have been too much, imo.

Now that this is done with, hopefully the Mavs can figure out a way to make a splash with the roster.

SMC0007 · 07-08-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Why does it mater what Gortat wants?

Having said that, I doubt the Mavs want to commit four years to Gortat at this point. I think Damp's back for part of the MLE.

I guess it doesn't really matter what Gortat wants in regards to where Orlando trades him, but if you have frustrated players, that obviously can't be good for chemistry.

You may be right about not wanting to commit 4 years on Gortat now because they have put all their eggs in the Haywood basket. Wether or not that is a good idea.

BGMaverick9 · 07-08-2010, 01:03 PM

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I disagree. There's too much circus with Shaq.

I think he understands his time is pretty much up. I think the circus can remain, but he'll keep the ego in check because he still wants to get a ring to further establish his legacy.

His previous situations didn't work because he actually didn't cater to the cast. In Dallas, I think he absolutely caters to the situation...especially as a backup to where he isn't required to log heavy minutes.

Underdog · 07-08-2010, 01:03 PM

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I disagree. There's too much circus with Shaq.

I'll take 12/7 over 6/7 at the cost of a circus...

(plus, maybe Old Man Shaq is finally getting over himself if he's considering MLE?)

BGMaverick9 · 07-08-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Why does it mater what Gortat wants?

Having said that, I doubt the Mavs want to commit four years to Gortat at this point. I think Damp's back for part of the MLE.

The years WOULD be the issue but I don't see a major problem with him being a malcontent. Gortat just wants a chance for more minutes which he basically doesn't get in Orlando. It's not like Haywood can clearly dominate for 35-38 minutes and he'll just be left with scraps...there are definite minutes to be had.

Underdog · 07-08-2010, 01:10 PM

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Phew...that's a lot of money - does anybody know if the last year of his contract is non-guaranteed?

Last year is a team option.

EDIT: n/m, looks like Jthig already pointed that out...

FINtastic · 07-08-2010, 01:12 PM

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The years WOULD be the issue but I don't see a major problem with him being a malcontent. Gortat just wants a chance for more minutes which he basically doesn't get in Orlando. It's not like Haywood can clearly dominate for 35-38 minutes and he'll just be left with scraps...there are definite minutes to be had.

Yeah, I don't think Gortat would complain about being on the Mavs roster where he could easily get 20 minutes a game as Haywood's backup. It's probably too expensive for the Mavs to go the Gortat route with Haywood resigned, but I certainly wouldn't mind it if they did.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-08-2010, 01:19 PM

Interesting stuff...

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Center Brendan Haywood agreed to a six-year, $55 million deal to return to the Dallas Mavericks, according to two sources.

The Mavs acquired Haywood in a seven-player deal with the Washington Wizards before last season's trade deadline and immediately declared that they hoped he would be a long-term fit. Haywood averaged 8.1 points, 7.4 rebounds and 2.0 blocks in 28 games for the Mavericks, sharing the starting job with Erick Dampier.

Coach Rick Carlisle visited Haywood's Charlotte, N.C., home at the beginning of free agency and assured Haywood that he would be Dallas' starting center if he re-signed. The Mavs are aggressively shopping Dampier, who has a non-guaranteed $13 million salary for next season, in the trade market.

The 30-year-old Haywood also visited with the Heat, but the Heat would not have salary cap space to sign him if LeBron James joins Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami as expected.

"The ball really got rolling late last night, like around midnight," said agent Andy Miller, who credited Carlisle as the driving force in Haywood's return to Dallas.

"There are about six other teams that we have had dialogue with. Dallas emerged as a leader from the gate and continued to surge."

The Mavs also pursued center Jermaine O'Neal, who opted to sign a two-year deal with the Boston Celtics.

Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com's Marc Stein that O'Neal initially had Dallas as his top choice but changed his mind when the Mavericks would not give him assurances that he would be the starter next season.

Despite O'Neal's longstanding relationship with Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle, dating to their days together in Indianapolis, Dallas was obviously intent on re-signing Haywood and could not make that promise to O'Neal.

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba...ory?id=5364191

BGMaverick9 · 07-08-2010, 01:30 PM

I wish I could find it, but I'm multi-tasking and a little lazy too...but there was an article saying that there wasn't any beef with Carlisle and Haywood toed the company line and did what was best for the team. Carlisle was upfront and honest about the situation and Haywood appreciated that.

Underdog · 07-08-2010, 01:35 PM

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I wish I could find it, but I'm multi-tasking and a little lazy too...but there was an article saying that there wasn't any beef with Carlisle and Haywood toed the company line and did what was best for the team. Carlisle was upfront and honest about the situation and Haywood appreciated that.

Here ya go, buddy:

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Haywood 'never had a problem' with Carlisle

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As the free agency wheels begin to churn again, Brendan Haywood hopes to clear the air about his relationship with Dallas Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle, which many perceived to have hit rocky times last season.

As Haywood gets closer to choosing between re-signing with Dallas or possibly joining Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade with the Miami Heat, Haywood said he's "never had a problem with Rick" and would have no problem playing for him again.

A rocky relationship was perceived after Carlisle's decision to first flip-flop Haywood in the starting lineup with Erick Dampier after Dampier returned from a finger injury, and then to permamently stick with Dampier as the starter down the stretch of the regular-season. But, Haywood helped to fuel speculation when asked about coming off the bench, he replied, "I just work here."

"It wasn’t particularly my choice," Haywood said Wednesday from his home in Charlotte, N.C. "But, I felt it was going to help us get to a championship so I was willing to do it."

There was speculation that Carlisle wasn't always pleased with Haywood's attention to detail at both ends of the court. Haywood said Carlisle's decision to start Dampier revolved around Carlisle's belief that Dampier would be more effecitive playing with the first unit, specifically Jason Kidd and Dirk Nowitzki.

Haywood's minutes dropped from more than 30 a game as the starter when Dampier was sidelined to the mid-20s or less coming off the bench.

"Just because my minutes went down people thought I had a problem with him. He did what he thought was best for the team and he was very upfront about it. He told me about it," Haywood said of Carlisle. "He thought he needed to get Dampier ready for the playoffs if we were going to make a deep run. I was like, 'OK, if you feel that's best for the team than I'm going to fall in line with that.' He felt like Dampier, it was hard with him getting older and not being able to play with Jason Kidd; he felt the only way they were going to be able to get the best production out of him was for him to start and me to come off the bench because I could provide energy and offensive rebounding.

"I never had a problem with it. I understood where he was coming from."

Carlisle met with Haywood at his Charlotte, N.C., home at the start of free agency. Heat president Pat Riley is the only other team official to have a face-to-face meeting with Haywood. Carlisle assured Haywood that he will be the starting center "as the roster is set up right now," Haywood said, if the sides are able to reach a deal. The Heat, barring LeBron James also signing, will have the cap space to make Haywood a lucrative offer.

"I have a lot of respect for coach Carlisle. He has a lot of knowledge and he handled the situation upfront," Haywood said. "He would pull me in, let me know before or give me a call if I was going to start or if I wasn't going to start, so I always knew what was going on. So, I never had a problem with it at all. I want to clear that up. I hate seeing it because I haven't said anything -- I've been basically out of the media -- so I hate to see 'rocky relationship.' I don't have a rocky relationship with coach Carlisle. Our relationship is just fine."

BGMaverick9 · 07-08-2010, 01:38 PM

Yeah I just found it lol...writing articles and keeping up with news, I get lazy looking for random tidbits

Thanks!

grndmstr_c · 07-08-2010, 01:53 PM

Great. Longer than I might've hoped, but the per-year figure is reasonable, and most importantly, Dallas has their starting center locked up.

Now I want Varejao coming off the bench at the 4/5. Gortat would be nice, too, but he's a less likely target since I can't see he and Wood playing together.

xrobx · 07-08-2010, 01:56 PM

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$9 mil a year is a pretty fair price for Wood, IMO. I mean he's probably really only worth about $6-7 in terms of his skills, but we all know big men come at a premium in today's NBA.

"Sources told ESPNDallas.com that, because Haywood's sixth year is not fully guaranteed, the deal averages roughly $7 million-to-$8 million annually in guaranteed money depending on incentives. "

not too bad

BGMaverick9 · 07-08-2010, 01:59 PM

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Great. Longer than I might've hoped, but the per-year figure is reasonable, and most importantly, Dallas has their starting center locked up.

Now I want Varejao coming off the bench at the 4/5. Gortat would be nice, too, but he's a less likely target since I can't see he and Wood playing together.

And how would you make that deal?

Underdog · 07-08-2010, 02:04 PM

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And how would you make that deal?

If LeBron walks, Cleveland is going to have a fire sale - I'm sure you could get creative!

(I certainly wouldn't mind seeing Side Show Bob in a Mavs uni...)

BGMaverick9 · 07-08-2010, 02:08 PM

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If LeBron walks, Cleveland is going to have a fire sale - I'm sure you could get creative!

(I certainly wouldn't mind seeing Side Show Bob in a Mavs uni...)

He's definitely got potential to be even better than he is now...but is he, with other pieces, DUST-Worthy?

SMC0007 · 07-08-2010, 02:15 PM

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He's definitely got potential to be even better than he is now...but is he, with other pieces, DUST-Worthy.

what other pieces?

BGMaverick9 · 07-08-2010, 02:18 PM

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what other pieces?

I was just saying because Andy doesn't make enough to do a deal on his own for DUST, so more has to come back.

gps · 07-08-2010, 02:45 PM

I think this is great. I think we messed up Haywood when we went into time share with Dampier mode. I am so tired of Eric slow scissor hands.

FINtastic · 07-08-2010, 02:47 PM

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If LeBron walks, Cleveland is going to have a fire sale - I'm sure you could get creative!

(I certainly wouldn't mind seeing Side Show Bob in a Mavs uni...)

Is Dirk's mom in need of a new lover? We could always trade for Delonte West.

Underdog · 07-08-2010, 02:51 PM

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Is Dirk's mom in need of a new lover? We could always trade for Delonte West.

I don't get it - is Delonte West a GILF-chaser or something?

EDIT: n/m