I dunno--what do you guys think?

[The Ghost of Championship]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Compelling. You've convinced me (and Utah, undoubtedly).

Originally Posted by spreedom

Glad I still have you on my Ignore List. This is terrible.

Well how much more do you two think we have to give Utah? Would an uprotected first next summer and taking Roger Bells small contract do it?

Who cares about a 25-30 pick anyway. Dirk + Jefferson; Kaman/Brand bench = Championship! Who could stand next to that timber? I'm getting wet on the possibilities of starting Kaman, Jefferson, & Dirk at small forward his true spot anyway. Nobody could rebound on us.

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by The Ghost of Championship

Well how much more do you two think we have to give Utah? Would an uprotected first next summer and taking Roger Bells small contract do it?

Who cares about a 25-30 pick anyway. Dirk + Jefferson; Kaman/Brand bench = Championship! Who could stand next to that timber? I'm getting wet on the possibilities of starting Kaman, Jefferson, & Dirk at small forward his true spot anyway. Nobody could rebound on us.

If you're offering anything to Utah for Roger Bell, they'll take it. I think you mean Raja Bell. Who cares about a 25-30th pick? By that logic, Utah won't and they'll pass on the idea of the pick.

With Kaman, Jefferson and Dirk, they'll sure as hell have a hard time stopping anyone on defense.

[The Ghost of Championship]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

If you're offering anything to Utah for Roger Bell, they'll take it. I think you mean Raja Bell. Who cares about a 25-30th pick? By that logic, Utah won't and they'll pass on the idea of the pick.

With Kaman, Jefferson and Dirk, they'll sure as hell have a hard time stopping anyone on defense.

Damn Apple autocorrect...

I might be mistaking you for the person who used to write for hoopsworld. That poster was incredibly insightful into all things NBA. Is that you?

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Not to lend any weight to this thread, but anybody know how Brand's cap hold for next season will be figured? 190% of 2.1 million? Or does his amnesty status throw some monkeys at the wrench?

I've read no bird rights but ability to match previous contract plus 20%. I assume that would be the cap hold but can't offer any more than that. Hope it helps your googling. Still waiting on BGMav for a link.

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by The Ghost of Championship

I've read no bird rights but ability to match previous contract plus 20%. I assume that would be the cap hold but can't offer any more than that. Hope it helps your googling. Still waiting on BGMav for a link.

You've read wrong. Or perhaps just not recently enough. Bird rights are transferred through amnesty claims. That was clarified over the summer.

[The Ghost of Championship]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

You've read wrong. Or perhaps just not recently enough. Bird rights are transferred through amnesty claims. That was clarified over the summer.

You answered your own question as cap hold should be easy enough to calculate. $19-20 million is a lot of money to tie up.

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by The Ghost of Championship

You answered your own question as cap hold should be easy enough to calculate. $19-20 million is a lot of money to tie up.

Word on the street is it's more like $17.3 billion.

[The Ghost of Championship]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

If you're offering anything to Utah for Roger Bell, they'll take it. I think you mean Raja Bell. Who cares about a 25-30th pick? By that logic, Utah won't and they'll pass on the idea of the pick.

Why do you care so much about Utah? Everyone knows they have to get rid of Jefferson or Millsap. We have leverage and it's time to use it back on them like they did when they stole Mo Williams from us and we got stuck with Darren fuggin Collison instead.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by The Ghost of Championship

Why do you care so much about Utah? Everyone knows they have to get rid of Jefferson or Millsap. We have leverage and it's time to use it back on them like they did when they stole Mo Williams from us and we got stuck with Darren fuggin Collison instead.

Stole Mo Williams from us? Are you referencing the Odom trade? When was Williams ever supposed to come to Dallas in that scenario? Don't tell other posters they are lying without links when you don't provide them yourself.

And I'd rather have Collison. Better defender, passer, and rebounder.

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Don't tell other posters they are lying without links when you don't provide them yourself.

Lame ass bits like this one make just me appreciate Rick Carlisle that much more.

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Lame ass bits like this one make just me appreciate Rick Carlisle that much more.

Sad thing was, this guy had a post in his first 4-5 that made me think he might actually have a pretty good bit. That's why you don't jump to premature conclusions. Lesson learned.

[spreedom]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Stole Mo Williams from us? Are you referencing the Odom trade? When was Williams ever supposed to come to Dallas in that scenario? Don't tell other posters they are lying without links when you don't provide them yourself.

And I'd rather have Collison. Better defender, passer, and rebounder.

Yeah, I'm not sure what planet you have to be living on to think Mo Williams is nearly as good as Collison.

[The Ghost of Championship]

Originally Posted by spreedom

Yeah, I'm not sure what planet you have to be living on to think Mo Williams is nearly as good as Collison.

Mo Williams is ranked way higher than Collison in nearly every fantasy draft table.

I've said this many times before--I went to college with Collison and really like him as a person but I guarantee he will disappoint you heading up the pg spot. I've watched more Collison than just about anyone besides his coaches and teammates. He's undersized and can't shoot a three to save his life.

Sorry I can't be a Pollyanna and am hurting feelings by not being a homer fan.