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Melonhead · 04-29-2015, 12:13 PM

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Devin Harris was very good this past season. The median in three point % is 34.7 the league as a whole has shot it worse, up expectations for PG a bit and Devin was an average shooter for a PG while taking 50% of shots as threes so at a vey high volume. Amongst 74 qualified OG's Harris was 11th in TS% at 55.9%. He is only 37th out of 74 in assist rate but 13th in TO%. I think Harris took step back defensively this year and on/off numbers suggest that, but he was still very good.

I wonder if his toe had a lot to do with defense this season. It was definitely nagging him in the playoffs that kept him from doing things

dirt_dobber · 04-29-2015, 11:35 AM

Erica - hilarious reference - loved the #antoinerigadeau

I just so badly want a starting pg - and look at available free agents - not much hope.
http://hoopshype.com/free_agency/point_guards_2015.htm

Kante · 04-29-2015, 11:50 AM

If the Mavs get something for Harris that helps them to sign a good player they need, i'm all for it.

MavzMan · 04-29-2015, 03:02 PM

My worry is that we are just being played again in order to force another team to pay. The last thing I want happening is to make a pointless run to get DJ, but while in process we lose Tyson to free agency yet again. Tough call either way.

Underdog · 04-29-2015, 07:34 PM

Marc Stein on the possibilities of Dallas signing Ellis, Aldridge, Jordan, Aminu: http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/p...llas-mavericks

Melonhead · 04-29-2015, 08:36 PM

Jarrett jack would be a great pg here. Think it would take 6m though. He's doing work against the Hawks as we speak

mavs777 · 05-01-2015, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Jarrett jack would be a great pg here. Think it would take 6m though. He's doing work against the Hawks as we speak

No, Jarrett Jack was absolutely awful for the Nets during the regular season, weird things can happen over small sample sizes. If you want ridiculous contested off the dribble 20 footers, no play making skills, and a guy who doesn't defend, Jack is the guy for you.

Underdog · 05-01-2015, 01:31 PM

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No, Jarrett Jack was absolutely awful for the Nets during the regular season, weird things can happen over small sample sizes. If you want ridiculous contested off the dribble 20 footers, no play making skills, and a guy who doesn't defend, Jack is the guy for you.

Plus, we've had 2 or 3 chances to take him in the last several years and have passed each time.

EricaLubarsky · 04-30-2015, 12:22 PM

Aminu has (unsurprisingly) waived his 1.1mill player option.

Really hope he stays for more. Playing another year at 1.1 mill would be the biggest steal/ripoff since Parsons almost played this year for 1.4mill
http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/2015/...e-agency.html/

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"he certainly should opt out, and he will, as noted. We hope to be in a position to reacquire his services.” -Donnie

sefant77 · 04-30-2015, 10:08 PM

Ellis declined the request for the media exit interviews

what a damn child...good bye then

Romus · 05-01-2015, 03:48 AM

Aie aie aie, we need a roster more young and most energizer !
pleasr traded Parsons

spreedom · 05-01-2015, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Romus

Aie aie aie, we need a roster more young and most energizer !
pleasr traded Parsons

Thebo · 05-02-2015, 08:24 AM

Jarrett Jack is great off the bench, he's pretty much like a Devin Harris, only without a 3PT shot and costs more. Not worthy to start in current NBA.

mavs777 · 05-02-2015, 03:00 PM

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Jarrett Jack is great off the bench, he's pretty much like a Devin Harris, only without a 3PT shot and costs more. Not worthy to start in current NBA.

He's like Devin Harris only:
Much less efficient
Much worse on offense
Much worse on defense
Doesn't run team sets

xrobx · 05-02-2015, 09:14 AM

Harris is a terrible contract, when I look at how poorly he performed against Houston, and to think we're paying him until 2018? We are a train wreck at the guard position, both PG and SG. It could get ugly next year.

Melonhead · 05-02-2015, 09:16 AM

Jarrett Jack hits midrange at 50% clip. Not the greatest on threes, but when I looked deeper, it seems his defense isnt as good as I had built up in my head. And we need defense bad. He does avg more assists and rebounds than Ellis at only 28mpg.

bunkmoreland · 05-02-2015, 11:55 AM

I don't dislike Harris, Barea, or Jack. They can all fill the role of a backup point guard adequately. It's when you try to field a PG rotation with 3 backups, like we did this year, and give the starting nod the the best backup, that we have a problem.

mavs777 · 05-02-2015, 02:56 PM

Jarrett jack is much worse than Harris on both sides of the ball

mavs777 · 05-02-2015, 03:03 PM

What about Batum as a trade target if LMA goes to SA or someone else? I could see Portland looking to rebuild, Batum's coming off a down year shooting the ball, but is a good ball handler, has a very good track record shooting, and is a terrific passer. He's an overrated defender but a very solid player and I feel Carlisle could get a lot out of him.

rimrocker · 05-02-2015, 05:39 PM

I'm not crazy about a Lawson/Ellis backcourt but what if Ellis opts in and we can get Chandler on a 3yr $33mil deal?
We should have enough left (I think) to trade a tpe for Lawson.
Then hopefully get Aminu for MLE.
Trade Felton/2nd rounder for $3mil cash.

Lawson/Barea
Ellis/Harris
Parsons/Aminu
Dirk/Powell
Chandler/?/Sarge

If Ellis is going to take up all of our cap space I'd rather not sign him.
If Ellis opts out then go after Afflalo.
I'd rather have the combo of Lawson/Afflalo than Ellis alone with either Barea or Harris as a starter.

mavsmanfromohio · 05-03-2015, 09:15 PM

Larry Sanders? Don Kalkstein and the discipline and structure within the Mavs could really benefit him. More so than any other team.

The Nets have to be considering buying out D Williams. I would be surprised if they didn't.

interested in seeing what becomes of the SG situation.

mavsmanfromohio · 07-09-2015, 10:14 PM

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Larry Sanders? Don Kalkstein and the discipline and structure within the Mavs could really benefit him. More so than any other team.

The Nets have to be considering buying out D Williams. I would be surprised if they didn't.

interested in seeing what becomes of the SG situation.

DWilliams
Matthews
Parsons
Dirk
Sanders

Kanter
Zaza
Jefferson
Charlie V
Harris
Barea
Anderson
Evans

That's not bad, needs to be better though. I like Kanter's game and personality here. Worth the max? He is if you need a scoring big off the bench.

spreedom · 05-03-2015, 11:36 PM

My guess is the annoyance BG is referring to is Blake.

BGMaverick9 · 05-03-2015, 11:44 PM

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My guess is the annoyance BG is referring to is Blake.

Incorrect.

rmacomic · 05-04-2015, 12:49 PM

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Incorrect.

Cryptic much?

If I had to guess, I would say Doc Rivers. Most player issues can be resolved without the need to invoke leaving.

remnorz · 05-05-2015, 12:14 PM

Barea wants 2-3years @ 3mil per year. He won't accept vet's min.

Source: http://www.elnuevodia.com/deportes/b...allas-2043106/

Melonhead · 05-05-2015, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by remnorz

Barea wants 2-3years @ 3mil per year. He won't accept vet's min.

Source: http://www.elnuevodia.com/deportes/b...allas-2043106/

I dont blame him. Hes better than a vet min guy. Maybe settle to 2.5. Its not his fault we had to take on Felton. Hes a great bench energy guy that we need.

BPo001 · 05-08-2015, 07:09 PM

Rumors are floating around that Deron Williams could be bought out. Could he be an option? I wonder what kind of money he would be looking for in the unlikely event he is bought out by the Nets.

Underdog · 05-08-2015, 07:37 PM

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Rumors are floating around that Deron Williams could be bought out. Could he be an option? I wonder what kind of money he would be looking for in the unlikely event he is bought out by the Nets.

I'm not sure how you'd get him, but you could do a lot worse than D-Will at PG (even if his skills are in decline)... Worst-case: better than Rondo.

EricaLubarsky · 05-08-2015, 09:53 PM

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I'm not sure how you'd get him, but you could do a lot worse than D-Will at PG (even if his skills are in decline)... Worst-case: better than Rondo.

Worst case for Felton is better than Rondo.

FreshJive · 05-09-2015, 02:43 AM

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Worst case for Felton is better than Rondo.

Fair enough. Worst case for Deron is better than Felton.

bunkmoreland · 05-09-2015, 12:46 PM

DWill comes to Dallas on a one year deal.
Plays his ass off.
Cashes in after season and gets overpaid by another team.
That works for me.

yahyes · 05-09-2015, 07:58 PM

We shouldn't have let go of Vince Carter that easy. Especially signing Jefferson over him. Maybe Carter has one more season left in him to comeback for a low bargain 1 year.

Underdog · 05-09-2015, 10:24 PM

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We shouldn't have let go of Vince Carter that easy. Especially signing Jefferson over him. Maybe Carter has one more season left in him to comeback for a low bargain 1 year.

Jefferson: 14-15 ($1.5m)
Carter: 14-15 ($3.9m), 15-16 ($4.1m), 16-17 ($4.3m)

It was "that easy" because of price and years... Unless he's traded, Carter is going to retire in Memphis.

yahyes · 05-10-2015, 06:06 PM

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Jefferson: 14-15 ($1.5m)
Carter: 14-15 ($3.9m), 15-16 ($4.1m), 16-17 ($4.3m)

It was "that easy" because of price and years... Unless he's traded, Carter is going to retire in Memphis.

Oh I thought Carter had a 1 year with Memphis. Never mind then.

LonghornDub · 05-10-2015, 12:18 AM

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We shouldn't have let go of Vince Carter that easy. Especially signing Jefferson over him. Maybe Carter has one more season left in him to comeback for a low bargain 1 year.

Jefferson significantly outplayed Carter all year by pretty much any metric, and he cost significantly less.

mavs777 · 05-18-2015, 12:00 AM

I think monta is as good as gone, maybe tim is wrong but he has been hinting at that

GermanStandard · 05-18-2015, 07:26 AM

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I think monta is as good as gone, maybe tim is wrong but he has been hinting at that

I wouldnt mind it. Teams needs a different way of approaching things on the field especially on the defensive side.

Ellis is fun to watch and extremely good sometimes on the offensive end but he isnt a Winner and isnt going to carry your team when it matters.

rimrocker · 05-18-2015, 01:46 PM

If possible I'd still rather sign Jordan/Green/Aminu and let Ellis/Chandler walk. I don't see where merely resigning Ellis/Chandler and maybe Aminu make us any better and there is no upside.
Then trade Felton/Harris/Pick for Lawson.

Lawson/Barea
Green/
Parsons/Aminu
Dirk/Powell
Jordan/?/Sarge

At least that team has an upside and would be somewhat attractive to a star FA post Dirk.

mac222b · 05-18-2015, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

If possible I'd still rather sign Jordan/Green/Aminu and let Ellis/Chandler walk. I don't see where merely resigning Ellis/Chandler and maybe Aminu make us any better and there is no upside.
Then trade Felton/Harris/Pick for Lawson.

Lawson/Barea
Green/
Parsons/Aminu
Dirk/Powell
Jordan/?/Sarge

At least that team has an upside and would be somewhat attractive to a star FA post Dirk.

I think it takes more than that to get Lawson. Not sure they want that long Decin contract