Tim Hardaway hates gays.

[alexamenos]

Originally Posted by TheTao

Private thoughts AND public words can be acts of violence..."

a) care to guess what I'm thinking?
b) do you feel like a victim of violence?

[alexamenos]

Originally Posted by Murphy3

I think you're missing the point of the gay man making subtle thrusts of his hips towards the heteros.. You know it'd happen. When they aren't looking, the gay guy would be licking his lips and visualizing himself making dirty hard gay sex with the other men. You know that's what Johnny Gay-Gay Amaechi was doing. He was visualizing making unsweet and unclean sexual intercourse to the anuses of every player that he ever 'played with'. I'm sorry, but heteros should not be subjected to such.

And here's what's worse. John Amaechi could have been quietly 'taking care of business' while no one was watching... and then all of a sudden one of his teammates feels something hit him in the back.. Surely it was just water, wasn't it? Nope. It was John Amaechi just finishing up his business.

you could probably write harlequin romance novels if you wanted to.

[TheTao]

[QUOTE=TheTao]Private thoughts AND public words can be acts of violence...

It IS wrong to harbor hateful thoughts towards a particular group of people because quite often such thoughts lead to violence. If we are honest we'll acknowldge that the logical consequence of hating someone is that one who hates wishes the other dead. Hardaway would never admit this much, but if we follow his thinking to it's logical consequences it would result in him living in a world in which he never had to encounter a gay person: such a world could only exist if people who were gay did not exist. Hardaway's comments are violent because they bring to mind images of Hitler, the Klu Klux Klan, and Stalin--people who actualized their hate.

I think what is important here is for someone that hates to be truly honest about the potential consequences of his or her hate...

[alexamenos]

Originally Posted by TheTao

It IS wrong to harbor hateful thoughts towards a particular group of people because quite often such thoughts lead to violence.

so you're altering your stance a little bit, here....private thoughts and publics aren't violence per se, but rather they can *often lead to violence*.

.....so Tao, what would you do????

a little preventative warfare on things that may lead to violence....so-n-so may be harboring bad thoughts, so-n-so may be building W. M. D.s (Words of Mean Disposition), perhaps we should invade his house and liberate his pets???

anyhoo....

...what was it jesus said, something like "verily if you even think about bitch slapping a homo, it's as much as doing it for real and i'll jack you up bad for doing it." something along those lines, tho I may be paraphrasing.

point being...most folks, thinking folks at least, living in the christian west have thought one time or another about the ramifications of their thoughts. so, it takes a real arrogant fuck to think spouting whacked out commie chinese i ching nonsense is going to enlighten anyone in the least.

cheers

[TheTao]

Originally Posted by alexamenos

most folks, thinking folks at least, living in the christian west have thought one time or another about the ramifications of their thoughts

This thread is about Hardaway's anti-gay comments and his subsequent public retraction of them. Obviously Hardaway said something before he thought about it, and now that he has been called out by so many (Shaq, Stern, the media, NBA fans, etc.) he has reconsidered his words. I suppose if you get down to it, all the posts in this forum essentially challenge us to reconsider our views on things, from the advantage of starting George over Harris to an ex-NBA player making anti-gay statements. While I have a certain bias towards a starting backcourt of Harris and Terry, I am interested to hear what others think, with the understanding that I may in fact re-think my stance and change my mind. I suspect that you, too, believe that even I might re-think my views, or else why would you have sent a response?

[mavsman]

Mr. Sulu's message for Tim

[WurzburgBorn]

Originally Posted by mavsman

Mr. Sulu's message for Tim

Oh my gosh. That's hillarious! Great stuff.