OFFICIAL 2022 Playoffs round 1 Jazz and Mavs

[DevinHarriswillstart]

I dunno, I'm starting to think Luka plays. He is the type that wants to be on the court no matter what. It might not be the best decision but who is gonna tell him no?

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I dunno, I'm starting to think Luka plays. He is the type that wants to be on the court no matter what. It might not be the best decision but who is gonna tell him no?

If I recall in similiar situation vs the Spurs in the WCF's back in 04 I think Cuban said NO

He wouldn't let Dirk play in the rest of that series do to a knee sprain. He said at that time they wouldn't risk further injury because he had long career ahead of him.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

If I recall in similiar situation vs the Spurs in the WCF's back in 04 I think Cuban said NO

He wouldn't let Dirk play in the rest of that series do to a knee sprain. He said at that time they wouldn't risk further injury because he had long career ahead of him.

Knees and Calves are oceans apart in things that can ruin your career. Not saying a calf injury can't be serious, but the knee and achilles foot are the red zone injuries you shut down.

[BPo001]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Knees and Calves are oceans apart in things that can ruin your career. Not saying a calf injury can't be serious, but the knee and achilles foot are the red zone injuries you shut down.

We need to worry less about losing a playoff series by rushing Luka back if he isn’t ready. I’d rather lose a playoff series than Luka for most of next season if he was to get seriously injured. I still don’t think we are quite championship caliber this season, but with the right moves in the offseason we can be next season.

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Knees and Calves are oceans apart in things that can ruin your career. Not saying a calf injury can't be serious, but the knee and achilles foot are the red zone injuries you shut down.

Kevin Durant says hi

[G-Man]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

Kevin Durant says hi

As I recall, Kevin Durant was coming back from a calf strain when he blew out his Achilles. So I am preparing myself for a Luka-less playoff run. I'd much rather lose to Utah in 4 than have Luka be gimpy into the next season.

And I say that as a person who was in the stands the night in 2003 when Dirk hurt his knee. That was before we knew he was bionic.

I found this when I Googled Durant calf and achilles injury.

"Durant had been dealing with a calf injury, on the same leg, for a few weeks before this Achilles injury. He missed several games because of the calf injury and was in his first game back in action...The calf and Achilles tendon are so interrelated that most times when one has a problem so does the other.

Hoping the NBA would overturn that tech has taught me, again, to be careful what you wish for.

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by G-Man

As I recall, Kevin Durant was coming back from a calf strain when he blew out his Achilles. So I am preparing myself for a Luka-less playoff run. I'd much rather lose to Utah in 4 than have Luka be gimpy into the next season.

And I say that as a person who was in the stands the night in 2003 when Dirk hurt his knee. That was before we knew he was bionic.

I found this when I Googled Durant calf and achilles injury.

"Durant had been dealing with a calf injury, on the same leg, for a few weeks before this Achilles injury. He missed several games because of the calf injury and was in his first game back in action...The calf and Achilles tendon are so interrelated that most times when one has a problem so does the other.

Hoping the NBA would overturn that tech has taught me, again, to be careful what you wish for.

Most orthopedic surgeons have said those 2 events were unrelated except by timing proximity. Just because A happened doesn't mean B was the result.

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by Zeus

Most orthopedic surgeons have said those 2 events were unrelated except by timing proximity. Just because A happened doesn't mean B was the result.

A quick google search gives tons of orthopedic surgeons warning about the link between Achilles tears and calf strains.

Brad Botkin
@bradbotkincbs
Dr. Alan Beyer of the @HoagOrthopedic Institute said this to CBS Sports before Kevin Durant returned for Game 5: "With a weakened calf, you're worried about significant re-injury and even tearing the Achilles tendon further down."

“Strains of any sort are small tears in muscles that can vary in severity. The calf itself is made up of three main muscles (gastrocnemius, soleus, and plantaris), as well as the achilles tendon. Generally, strains in this area come with an Optimal Recovery Time anywhere from three to six weeks depending on the severity, which isn’t great news for the Mavericks with the playoffs set to begin the Saturday.

Calf strains are incredibly tricky injuries that are notoriously slow to heal and easy to aggravated. When a player returns too soon, they are at a High Risk of suffering a more significant calf strain or related injury such as a ruptured Achilles. Those calf muscles meet at the Achilles tendon, so when the muscle is damaged it makes the connecting tendon more vulnerable. That’s exactly what happened to Kevin Durant a few years ago.”

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

If I recall in similiar situation vs the Spurs in the WCF's back in 04 I think Cuban said NO

He wouldn't let Dirk play in the rest of that series do to a knee sprain. He said at that time they wouldn't risk further injury because he had long career ahead of him.

I think you might be referring to when Nelson refused to play Dirk, and Cuban wanted him to play. He accused Nellie as just wanting an excuse for losing. It was part of the trial when Nellie sued Cuban.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

If I recall in similiar situation vs the Spurs in the WCF's back in 04 I think Cuban said NO

He wouldn't let Dirk play in the rest of that series do to a knee sprain. He said at that time they wouldn't risk further injury because he had long career ahead of him.

It was in 03, and it was Nellie who refused to play Dirk, and Cuban was furious because the doctors had cleared Dirk to play. Their relationship wasn't great to start with, but from that point on it was toxic, and they never recovered from it.

For the record, I am 100% on Cuban's side in that debate. For all intents and purposes, that series was the Finals. If we win that series, we win the title. Nellie's not a f**king doctor and has no business overruling medical professionals, especially when there's an NBA championship on the line. Why the hell even have team doctors if you're just going to ignore them?

I've never lost too much sleep over that one because even if Dirk plays, I think the Spurs still probably win that series, but it still makes me mad whenever I occasionally think back on it.

[MFFL]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

It was in 03, and it was Nellie who refused to play Dirk, and Cuban was furious because the doctors had cleared Dirk to play. Their relationship wasn't great to start with, but from that point on it was toxic, and they never recovered from it.

For the record, I am 100% on Cuban's side in that debate. For all intents and purposes, that series was the Finals. If we win that series, we win the title. Nellie's not a f**king doctor and has no business overruling medical professionals, especially when there's an NBA championship on the line. Why the hell even have team doctors if you're just going to ignore them?

I've never lost too much sleep over that one because even if Dirk plays, I think the Spurs still probably win that series, but it still makes me mad whenever I occasionally think back on it.

I was so mad at that for a number of years. Nellie cost Dirk a championship