07-02-2007, 10:45 PM
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Rashard Lewis agrees to sign with Orlando
Courtesy of RealGM however the link they provide is messed up...
KMG Channel 6 -
Orlando television station WKMG Local 6 is reporting that Rashard Lewis has agreed to sign with the Orlando Magic on July 11.
The deal is reported for 5 years and $75 million.
Sports anchor David Pingalore also reported the Magic will allow restricted free agent forward Darko Milicic to become an unrestricted free agent.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...gn_with_magic/
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07-02-2007, 10:47 PM
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Dang those houston rockets just can't bring in any big time free agents.
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07-02-2007, 10:56 PM
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Think Milicic would come here for the MLE?
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07-02-2007, 10:59 PM
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Good. Send some good people East.
And no, not milicic because no one desirable is coming to Dallas this off-season.
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07-02-2007, 11:00 PM
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He's young and wants to be a star and get paid...so NO, he won't come to Dallas for the MLE.
I mean really, that is just some fat money being thrown around so far for this summer. Lewis isn't worth THAT much...overpaying by far. If we want Wallace, we better find a good trade route to go.
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07-02-2007, 11:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
He's young and wants to be a star and get paid...so NO, he won't come to Dallas for the MLE.
I mean really, that is just some fat money being thrown around so far for this summer. Lewis isn't worth THAT much...overpaying by far. If we want Wallace, we better find a good trade route to go.
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Dont give it a second thought.
Not going to happen
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07-02-2007, 11:09 PM
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Yeah, that's why I want to shoot that down before it has a chance, we're going to have to be very creative or lucky for the people we want to actually come here.
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07-02-2007, 11:12 PM
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My boy Nash couldn't get 5 and 50, and this kid gets 5 and 75? Amazing!!
Just kidding around. But...I haven't followed this too closely, but didn't the NBA re-up the TV contracts recently? I remember Cuban talking about the fear of a "draconian change in the way the NBA does business" back when he was justifying letting that prime free agent walk. Yet another thing he was (evidently) wrong about!
At any rate, that's a lot of money being tossed around. Now how much does Gerald Wallace get?
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07-02-2007, 11:18 PM
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If this is true, Darko may have to sign for the MLE unless Charlotte or Milwaukee want him (and he wants to play there). There are very few teams left that are substantially under the cap. He makes some sense for us because he can provide offense from the center position and he can protect the rim.
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07-02-2007, 11:26 PM
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Who can blame him? What the heck is in Seattle?
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07-02-2007, 11:34 PM
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Durant better have an All-Star season if he wants to keep that team in Seattle...
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07-03-2007, 12:01 AM
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I'm shocked!! Why would he pick Orlando over Miami when he could have played alongside Shaq & Wade?? He mustn't care much for winning surely?!!!
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07-03-2007, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rabbitproof
Who can blame him? What the heck is in Seattle?
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There is actually a decent amount to be excited about in Seattle. The only problem is that the biggest thing to be excited about plays Lewis' position.
Anyway its kind of a lot of money but honestly Lewis is a great fit in Orlando next to Howard. If they could solidify 2/3 they might be dangerous
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07-03-2007, 12:11 AM
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Because he can play next to Dwight Howard now for awhile instead of playing with shaq for at best two years.
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07-03-2007, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
Dang those houston rockets just can't bring in any big time free agents.
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Lewis is over rated and will be a rich loser in Orlando.
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07-03-2007, 12:14 AM
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Lewis is over rated and will be a rich loser in Orlando.
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ouch
just wondering. Who will start at the PF position next year for you? Justin Reed or 6'7" rookie Carl Landry?
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07-03-2007, 12:15 AM
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Lewis is over rated and will be a rich loser in Orlando.
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Lover spurned....tsk...tsk...
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07-03-2007, 12:15 AM
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Wow, talk about overpaid, 5 for 75 mil?! You've got to be kidding. Btw, I have no interest in Darko coming here.
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07-03-2007, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
There is actually a decent amount to be excited about in Seattle. The only problem is that the biggest thing to be excited about plays Lewis' position.
Anyway its kind of a lot of money but honestly Lewis is a great fit in Orlando next to Howard. If they could solidify 2/3 they might be dangerous
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Seriously? Seattle? Rain and Canada and bad coffee? Get out.....
I think it's a great signing. The Big Ben signing of `07. Yes, overpaid but an excellent fit and a next level type move (playoff lock and 2nd round potential).
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07-03-2007, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rabbitproof
Seriously? Seattle? Rain and Canada and bad coffee? Get out.....
I think it's a great signing. The Big Ben signing of `07. Yes, overpaid but an excellent fit and a next level type move (playoff lock and 2nd round potential).
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I think a lot of people are excited to see Kevin Durant and Jeff Green play.
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07-03-2007, 01:50 AM
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not really overpaid, didn't we all expect this type of money? expected isn't overpaid in my book, just market value.
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07-03-2007, 02:06 AM
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not really overpaid, didn't we all expect this type of money? expected isn't overpaid in my book, just market value.
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I expected more like a 5 for 60 mil deal, but maybe I just underestimate deals.
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07-03-2007, 02:21 AM
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There really should be a chart out there.
Superstars that carry a team= MAX money
Stars that contribute but arent on that level= 8-10mill
Great role players (Howard, Terry)= 4-8mill
solid role players= 2-4
young guys and second/third stringers= 1-2 mill
I would put Lewis in the second or third categories-- he's no Kobe but he's a solid borderline star.
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07-03-2007, 02:21 AM
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75 mil is too steep....glad we passed.
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07-03-2007, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
Dang those houston rockets just can't bring in any big time free agents.
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To be fair, neither can we.
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07-03-2007, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
There really should be a chart out there.
Superstars that carry a team= MAX money
Stars that contribute but arent on that level= 8-10mill
Great role players (Howard, Terry)= 4-8mill
solid role players= 2-4
young guys and second/third stringers= 1-2 mill
I would put Lewis in the second or third categories-- he's no Kobe but he's a solid borderline star.
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That looks good to me. Lewis is worth more like 10-12 mil in my opinion, no way is he worth 15 mil a year for 5 years.
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"We wanted this for Dirk because of his heart, his class, his work ethic, his humility, his sense of humor, his respect for the game, and his respect for people."
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07-03-2007, 03:06 AM
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Man, anybody who is 6-10+ and doesn't have a jumpshot has messed up their life proper....
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07-03-2007, 03:20 AM
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even Fazekas will get at the very minimim 1.5million. We give him 2 years with a team-optioned third at league minimum.
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07-03-2007, 05:14 AM
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To be fair, neither can we.
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The entire Mavs turn-around was started from big time free agents...
...don't you remember Chris Gatling and Howard Eiseley o_O
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07-03-2007, 05:57 AM
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Yeah I dont even know if its possible to rationally say that free-agents don't want to be in Dallas. Hindsight tells us that there are a couple of players that could have been had or kept with reasonable money, but for every one of them there are more people that are just asking too much. As for Lewis-- he said he wanted to go to Orlando and the Mavericks didnt have a chance.
Orlando had the room. Dallas would have had to do an SnT for him which would give Seattle at least around 12 million in salary-- something Seattle probably would have wanted to avoid.
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07-03-2007, 07:34 AM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2924228
The NBA's most sought-after free agent is going to the Magic Kingdom.
Rashard Lewis
Lewis
After being treated to an aggressive 24-hour courtship, Rashard Lewis told the Orlando Magic on Monday that he plans to leave the Seattle SuperSonics to sign a max contract with Orlando on July 11, according to NBA front-office sources.
That's the first day free agents are allowed to officially sign new contracts. Free Agency Season in the NBA began Sunday at 12:01 a.m. and Lewis was in Central Florida by Sunday afternoon to take in Orlando's persuasive recruiting pitch, including lobbying from franchise big man Dwight Howard.
The exact value of a max contract won't be known until the league announces the salary-cap figure in effect next season on July 11, but it's believed to be $75-to-85 million over five seasons.
The price for Lewis' services could grow, though. Unless a sign-and-trade arrangement can be worked out with Lewis' old team or unless it can otherwise shed a contract or two to create more salary-cap space in the next week, Orlando will have to renounce the rights to restricted free agent Darko Milicic to create the cap room to fund such a lucrative deal, instantly making Milicic an unrestricted free agent.
And that might only heap more pressure to live up to this contract on Lewis, who is poised to become a very high-priced sidekick to Howard.
The 6-10 forward -- having spent all nine of his NBA seasons in Seattle after famously slipping to the Sonics in the 1998 draft as the No. 32 overall pick -- is a proven scorer who averaged a career-high 22.4 points last season. Yet Orlando is bound to be questioned for committing so much financially to a player known only for his scoring.
Overlooking last month's aborted hiring of Billy Donovan as their new coach, it's the biggest free-agent splash from the Magic since the summer of 2000, when Orlando signed both Grant Hill and Tracy McGrady to matching $93 million contracts.
Only the Sonics had the right to sign Lewis to a six-year deal and pay him more than he'll get from the Magic, but the 27-year-old apparently eager to team with Howard and move out of the Western Conference.
When the Sonics traded Ray Allen to Boston on draft night, after selecting new face of the franchise Kevin Durant at No. 2 overall, Allen told the Tacoma News Tribune: "Now that I'm no longer there, I'm not even sure Rashard is going to want to come back. He wants to win and you almost think they are starting to rebuild with all these young players. I'm not sure Rashard is going to want to be a big brother to all these young guys."
Said Howard, speaking to Orlando reporters on Tuesday: "Having a guy like Rashard around would help my game out tremendously. The more shooters that we can bring in here, the better. Rashard is a shooter and a scorer, and that would help our team so much. We have some young guys on this team who can play, and hopefully we can add somebody like Rashard."
Florida Today reported in Tuesday's editions that Howard -- as expected even before Orlando secured Lewis' commitment or hired Stan Van Gundy to replace deposed coach Brian Hill -- still plans to sign a five-year extension with the Magic this summer.
"I definitely want to do the maximum of five years," Howard told the paper. "There's a great opportunity there for me, and I want to take it."
Milicic, meanwhile, figures to have no shortage of free-agent opportunities if he is indeed released onto the open market, despite a fourth straight season marked by concerns about the 7-footer's intensity. The former No. 2 overall pick in the 2003 draft by Detroit averaged just 8.0 points and 5.5 rebounds for the Magic in his first full season of regular playing time, but the 22-year-old did raise his game in the playoffs by averaging 12.3 points on 58.8-percent shooting in Orlando's four-game exit to the Pistons in the first round.
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07-03-2007, 08:05 AM
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Seriously? Seattle? Rain and Canada and bad coffee? Get out.....
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Well, so far this summer it's rained every day in Dallas, and they're calling for thunderstorms for at least the next 8 days in a row. And there is a Starbucks on every corner. So one could say, "Dallas? Rain and Mexico and bad coffee?"
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07-03-2007, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bobatundi
Well, so far this summer it's rained every day in Dallas, and they're calling for thunderstorms for at least the next 8 days in a row. And there is a Starbucks on every corner. So one could say, "Dallas? Rain and Mexico and bad coffee?"
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much rather have a Dr. Pepper than a carmel double-venti non-fat machiachino
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07-03-2007, 08:58 AM
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Billy Donavan shouldn't of John Kerried. He should of stayed with the Magic, they're going to have a pretty good team.
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07-03-2007, 10:16 AM
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IMO- rashard lewis is an as*hole.
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07-03-2007, 10:19 AM
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Well, so far this summer it's rained every day in Dallas, and they're calling for thunderstorms for at least the next 8 days in a row. And there is a Starbucks on every corner. So one could say, "Dallas? Rain and Mexico and bad coffee?"
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Moved from Dallas several years ago but I'm not sure I can believe you.
.... about the weather part. That's just bizzaro. Has someone in Dallas made a comment about global warming yet?
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07-03-2007, 01:05 PM
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Good fit for Rashard Lewis and i feel it is also a good fit for Orlando. I think this is a pretty good young team on the rise. Lewis made a good move here.
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07-03-2007, 11:41 PM
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ouch
just wondering. Who will start at the PF position next year for you? Justin Reed or 6'7" rookie Carl Landry?
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at this point, chuck wagon....LOL
the 4 is still a problem
I would love to have Artest
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07-03-2007, 11:59 PM
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Lover spurned....tsk...tsk...
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nah, this baby has not gotten over the fact that the Roxs passed on him in 1998, I mean who the fawk does he think he is........ The roxs passed on michael jordan too 14 yrs earlier
(thank god for Hakeem the dream and oh, the irony that we won 2 championships when MJ "retired", gotta love that shiit)
He cried like a baby. But, you know..........he went for the Payday so I guess you can't blame him. Unless you want to win... Seems like a mature guy.
I can't wait till Yao and the roxs own Dwight howard and the magic this season WITH lewis on the team..........Dwight howard is Yao's BITCH
R.Lewis said Yao is good, but so is Dwight Howard......he is more like a 4 than a true 5.(self proclaimed, too)
http://www.click2houston.com/video/13618349/index.html
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07-04-2007, 12:27 AM
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horrible contract..just horrible.
if you're orlando convince dwight howard that they'll suck for one more year nad then sign KG or Kobe or Gilbert..whoever opts out. You can't pay a soft outside shooter 15 million. don't they already have redick?
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