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Budapest Maverick · 07-04-2016, 11:27 AM

Bogut would be amazing. Easily top 5 at his position on a per-minute basis. Now, granted, he is not a guy who can play 30+ minutes at this point, but he would be a heckuva signing. With Barnes, I could see us improving next season. If you will not tank, you might as well get a player like Bogut. Still not high on Barnes, but maybe he will work on his game like crazy during this summer, and comes back with improved handles and jumpshot.

Dtownsfinest · 07-04-2016, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Budapest Maverick

Bogut would be amazing. Easily top 5 at his position on a per-minute basis. Now, granted, he is not a guy who can play 30+ minutes at this point, but he would be a heckuva signing. With Barnes, I could see us improving next season. If you will not tank, you might as well get a player like Bogut. Still not high on Barnes, but maybe he will work on his game like crazy during this summer, and comes back with improved handles and jumpshot.

I would rather have Ezeli or even Speights. Bogut is just not a offensive option at all.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-04-2016, 11:40 AM

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I would rather have Ezeli or even Speights. Bogut is just not a offensive option at all.

Is he a Vet? Check.
Is he on a short term contract? Check.
Does he have injury problems? Check.

I think we know how this ends.....

Melonhead · 07-04-2016, 11:41 AM

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I would rather have Ezeli or even Speights. Bogut is just not a offensive option at all.

I was on board with Ezeli until I really started watching him in the playoffs. Kerr was literally trying to hide him. He was really bad, and in the finals it was clear his lack of skills. I guess he could improve but I was scared off.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-04-2016, 11:57 AM

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 9m9 minutes ago
Sources say Dallas, furthermore, has emerged as a strong potential trade destination for Andrew Bogut, who the Warriors must now move.

Underdog · 07-04-2016, 12:03 PM

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Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 9m9 minutes ago
Sources say Dallas, furthermore, has emerged as a strong potential trade destination for Andrew Bogut, who the Warriors must now move.

Who/what are we trading?

DoYouEvenLift · 07-04-2016, 12:05 PM

Maybe just cap space + a 2nd round pick? Better not be a 1st round pick.

sefant77 · 07-04-2016, 12:13 PM

It wont be a 1st. Firstrounder have much much more value the past years with rookie contracts being so damn cheap right now. Cap and a 2nd.

FreshJive · 07-04-2016, 12:14 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine

The Warriors love Bogut and, sources say, are inclined to try to send him to a destination he likes. Bogut and Barnes are also good pals

FreshJive · 07-04-2016, 12:16 PM

I remember RJ and Bogut were buddies in GS also, and RJ likes Cuban.

yahyes · 07-04-2016, 12:34 PM

I want Donnie to look into Pau Gasol if we land Bogut. Gasol would be a solid addition to backup Dirk.

DoYouEvenLift · 07-04-2016, 12:37 PM

Aren't we eventually going to run out of money? 24 million to Barnes, I don't remember what Bogut makes isn't it like 15? Are we going to lowball Dirk again?

yahyes · 07-04-2016, 12:38 PM

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Aren't we eventually going to run out of money? 24 million to Barnes, I don't remember what Bogut makes isn't it like 15? Are we going to lowball Dirk again?

Not when the cap goes up more next year...

DoYouEvenLift · 07-04-2016, 12:40 PM

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Not when the cap goes up more next year...

What does that have to do with this summer?

Skywalker · 07-04-2016, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DoYouEvenLift

Aren't we eventually going to run out of money? 24 million to Barnes, I don't remember what Bogut makes isn't it like 15? Are we going to lowball Dirk again?

Bogut makes around 11-12 I think

Underdog · 07-04-2016, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DoYouEvenLift

What does that have to do with this summer?

Nothing.

Underdog · 07-04-2016, 12:42 PM

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I want Donnie to look into Pau Gasol if we land Bogut. Gasol would be a solid addition to backup Dirk.

SA gunning for Pau, especially since Timmy is considering retirement.

Budapest Maverick · 07-04-2016, 12:44 PM

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I would rather have Ezeli or even Speights. Bogut is just not a offensive option at all.

Bogut is a better offensive player than both, you are way off here. He would obviously play a different role with us than he did with the Warriors, he actually has a post game and is an excellent passer, not Ezeli, nor Speights can say that. His only problem is that he's injury prone.

howdoesmydirktaste · 07-04-2016, 12:48 PM

So a potential starting five of:

Deron
Wes
Harrison
Dirk
Bogut

I could live with that. It would be exciting to watch.

With Durant signing in OKC, we (and all but one or two teams) have a snow balls chance in hell of winning a championship.

DoYouEvenLift · 07-04-2016, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by howdoesmydirktaste

So a potential starting five of:

Deron
Wes
Harrison
Dirk
Bogut

I could live with that. It would be exciting to watch.

With Durant signing in OKC, we (and all but one or two teams) have a snow balls chance in hell of winning a championship.

You mean Durant signing with GS.

yahyes · 07-04-2016, 12:50 PM

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SA gunning for Pau, especially since Timmy is considering retirement.

Never know if Pau gets interested in Dallas if we add Barnes and Bogut. Things can open up.

FreshJive · 07-04-2016, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DoYouEvenLift

Aren't we eventually going to run out of money? 24 million to Barnes, I don't remember what Bogut makes isn't it like 15? Are we going to lowball Dirk again?

I'm guessing someone in the Mavs FO has a calculator.

yahyes · 07-04-2016, 12:51 PM

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What does that have to do with this summer?

We'll have more balance cap wise instead of overspending...

Underdog · 07-04-2016, 12:52 PM

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Never know if Pau gets interested in Dallas if we add Barnes and Bogut. Things can open up.

Dammit, guy -- Pau is not choosing Dallas over San Antonio. We're not even rumored to be in the mix... Just stop.

howdoesmydirktaste · 07-04-2016, 12:55 PM

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You mean Durant signing with GS.

Yeah. Oops. Not used to saying GS yet. Old habit.

DoYouEvenLift · 07-04-2016, 01:01 PM

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We'll have more balance cap wise instead of overspending...

My point was we only have about 50 million this summer (I thought) and 24 to Barnes, 10 to DWill, 10 to Powell. How are we supposed to trade for Bogut? And what about Dirk? My point had nothing to do with next summer, I am talking about right now.

Melonhead · 07-04-2016, 01:23 PM

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Dammit, guy -- Pau is not choosing Dallas over San Antonio. We're not even rumored to be in the mix... Just stop.

Lol I didn't want to go after this. Too tired.

But ftr Pau is getting close to 20 million depending on where he chooses. Could be less if it's SA

Melonhead · 07-04-2016, 01:26 PM

We're spent up after this I would think.

Skywalker · 07-04-2016, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Is he a Vet? Check.
Is he on a short term contract? Check.
Does he have injury problems? Check.

I think we know how this ends.....

lol good call

mac222b · 07-04-2016, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Is he a Vet? Check.
Is he on a short term contract? Check.
Does he have injury problems? Check.

I think we know how this ends.....

This is about how I feel. Bought is a really really good player when healthy. But he's never healthy! Same way I feel about Noah. Great player but just not someone you can rely upon anymore.

EricaLubarsky · 07-04-2016, 02:55 PM

At least on paper, I'd say were slightly better. Much of the west has dropped. Spurs and Warriors are still basically unbeatable.

Bogut is better than Zaza. Barnes is a better fit than Parsons. Matthews will get comfortable and if Anderson gets PT, it should be a good year. Still in that mediocre 9th-6th in the West, but slightly improved.

FreshJive · 07-04-2016, 02:58 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/jwquick

Blazers will not pursue Festus Ezeli or Nene and will turn their attention to Zaza Pachulia

Underdog · 07-04-2016, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

At least on paper, I'd say were slightly better. Much of the west has dropped. Spurs and Warriors are still basically unbeatable.

Bogut is better than Zaza. Barnes is a better fit than Parsons. Matthews will get comfortable and if Anderson gets PT, it should be a good year. Still in that mediocre 9th-6th in the West, but slightly improved.

Utah and Memphis got better.

EricaLubarsky · 07-04-2016, 03:24 PM

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Utah and Memphis got better.

We'll see on Memphis. Health and chemistry are huge.

Utah will be up there. I can see 5-7 seed for them

EricaLubarsky · 07-04-2016, 03:25 PM

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https://mobile.twitter.com/jwquick

Blazers will not pursue Festus Ezeli or Nene and will turn their attention to Zaza Pachulia

Even if Bogut is injured the entire year, he still helped us by keeping us away from Pachulia. Great character guy. Terrible fit for us.

purplefrog · 07-04-2016, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

At least on paper, I'd say were slightly better. Much of the west has dropped. Spurs and Warriors are still basically unbeatable.

Bogut is better than Zaza. Barnes is a better fit than Parsons. Matthews will get comfortable and if Anderson gets PT, it should be a good year. Still in that mediocre 9th-6th in the West, but slightly improved.

I agree with all of this...