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DevinHarriswillstart · 12-08-2022, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Why do the Pistons make that move though? I don?t watch them to know what their needs are.

Good question. Maybe we attach a second rounder? I mean, NN isn't doing anything either though, so I don't really know what the market is for either player.

I just can't imagine Bullock didn't come up in talks though. Denver game just felt like it's time to move on. I mean, he was terrible starting and is terrible off the bench. Can't really excuse players taking half the season off even if he does come around. Maybe on a contender with 3 superstars, but the team needs him to produce.

Who woulda though that THJ would be vastly superior? League can be weird.

But I still think the best moves the FO can make are ones that enhance Green and Hardy's role even if the return is meh. Hardy is a volcano that is gonna erupt soon. Can't keep a lid on that forever. And why would you?

SMC0007 · 12-09-2022, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Good question. Maybe we attach a second rounder? I mean, NN isn't doing anything either though, so I don't really know what the market is for either player.

I just can't imagine Bullock didn't come up in talks though. Denver game just felt like it's time to move on. I mean, he was terrible starting and is terrible off the bench. Can't really excuse players taking half the season off even if he does come around. Maybe on a contender with 3 superstars, but the team needs him to produce.

Who woulda though that THJ would be vastly superior? League can be weird.

But I still think the best moves the FO can make are ones that enhance Green and Hardy's role even if the return is meh. Hardy is a volcano that is gonna erupt soon. Can't keep a lid on that forever. And why would you?

Noel is a very meh move. I wouldn't add any picks but I'd swap Bullock just to have more of a necessity to get Green and Hardy more mins.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-09-2022, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Noel is a very meh move. I wouldn't add any picks but I'd swap Bullock just to have more of a necessity to get Green and Hardy more mins.

Noel is still a good defender though in a way that DP is not. League is suddenly in a dearth of good bigs again IMO which is why you absolutely keep Wood.

BPo001 · 12-08-2022, 11:35 PM

Michael Scotto: When Dallas offered JaVale McGee his contract and his starting spot in free agency, the Mavericks had high hopes for him, but his production hasn?t materialized, and he?s been out of the rotation lately. If Dallas is going to acquire another center, he?d have to be an upgrade defensively and a contrast to Christian Wood, I?ve heard. 3 days ago ? via HoopsHype

EricaLubarsky · 12-09-2022, 04:39 PM

More I think of it, the more Noel seems perfect.

If he can get open for oops like Powell but also block some shots and anchor the defense, we?d be significantly better.

EricaLubarsky · 12-09-2022, 08:13 PM

Some thoughts:

1: Barkley criticizing Lukas accomplishments because of ?pace? is bullshit
2: it has actually gone down under Kidd, which is strange
3: it explains being best in the league in TOs
4: we could score some easy points if we hustled, right? Why does it always have to be slow? I know a slow game gives more practice for the playoffs, but I?d love to see some more fast breaks when presented especially with Luka and the blossoming of Green as a capable ball handler and passer

saclare · 12-12-2022, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Some thoughts:

1: Barkley criticizing Lukas accomplishments because of ?pace? is bullshit
2: it has actually gone down under Kidd, which is strange
3: it explains being best in the league in TOs
4: we could score some easy points if we hustled, right? Why does it always have to be slow? I know a slow game gives more practice for the playoffs, but I?d love to see some more fast breaks when presented especially with Luka and the blossoming of Green as a capable ball handler and passer

Team is built for both solid half court off/def and getting out in space and running.

No reason that guys like Luka, Dinwiddie, Green, THJ, etc. can't get going on fast breaks more often. Without looking at stats and just going off of watching them play, they seem to be pretty efficient in the few times they take off.

I don't think being first or dead last is a good thing in the above. Every team has to find a balance and be able to flip the switch on and off.

EricaLubarsky · 12-12-2022, 12:25 PM

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/ma...row-struggles/

Mavs 13-13 and 10th place
If we could make a Ft
18-8 which would be tied with the Pelicans for 1st

BPo001 · 12-12-2022, 04:47 PM

Mark Cuban says he has raised the free throw topic several times with president and general manager Nico Harrison, vice president of basketball operations Michael Finley and Kidd. ?I told them to figure it out,? he said. ?They know it?s an issue. It?s not like we don?t see the box scores. ?It?s not something we ignore, that?s for damn sure. It?s not like, ?Eh, it?ll all work out in the end.? It?s something know we have to work on.? 5 hours ago ? via Brad Townsend @ Dallas Morning News

SMC0007 · 12-12-2022, 05:53 PM

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Mark Cuban says he has raised the free throw topic several times with president and general manager Nico Harrison, vice president of basketball operations Michael Finley and Kidd. ?I told them to figure it out,? he said. ?They know it?s an issue. It?s not like we don?t see the box scores. ?It?s not something we ignore, that?s for damn sure. It?s not like, ?Eh, it?ll all work out in the end.? It?s something know we have to work on.? 5 hours ago ? via Brad Townsend @ Dallas Morning News

That's cool. I wonder if he's addressed these scrubs on our team.

EricaLubarsky · 12-12-2022, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

That's cool. I wonder if he's addressed these scrubs on our team.

Other than a freak FT night, we were on pace to beat the 2nd best team in the East
Then we lost a designed loss. No superstar. Down two of our best defenders. On a few hours of sleep

If we didn't have the FT issue, we'd have the best record in the West.

This toxic fandom is honestly trash.

SMC0007 · 12-12-2022, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Other than a freak FT night, we were on pace to beat the 2nd best team in the East
Then we lost a designed loss. No superstar. Down two of our best defenders. On a few hours of sleep

If we didn't have the FT issue, we'd have the best record in the West.

This toxic fandom is honestly trash.

Every fan on here takes shots at this team, owner, coach, players. Idk if this is a bit or serious. It does get toxic, but there is not a world where a teams fans are all roses and never will be.

Melonhead · 12-13-2022, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Other than a freak FT night, we were on pace to beat the 2nd best team in the East
Then we lost a designed loss. No superstar. Down two of our best defenders. On a few hours of sleep

If we didn't have the FT issue, we'd have the best record in the West.

This toxic fandom is honestly trash.

Almost every team can do the "if this thing wasnt happening we'd be much better"

every fan base is crazy on some level.

saclare · 12-13-2022, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Other than a freak FT night, we were on pace to beat the 2nd best team in the East
Then we lost a designed loss. No superstar. Down two of our best defenders. On a few hours of sleep

If we didn't have the FT issue, we'd have the best record in the West.

This toxic fandom is honestly trash.

Ermmm the GDT's beg to differ lol you go in a lot in those...

Also, very hard to peruse with your new sig haha but I like it

tap2390 · 12-13-2022, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Other than a freak FT night, we were on pace to beat the 2nd best team in the East
Then we lost a designed loss. No superstar. Down two of our best defenders. On a few hours of sleep

If we didn't have the FT issue, we'd have the best record in the West.

This toxic fandom is honestly trash.

Lol you?ve always been the biggest hypocrite on these forums. Aren?t you the one who stickied your own thread about firing Kidd?

saclare · 12-12-2022, 06:25 PM

I mean, at least there's accountability and call for action.

Of course, can they implement it and improve is the big question. As a pro, looking at those stats has to be embarrassing. Luka especially given he is an all-world player who seemingly has a higher ceiling if he could make his freebies and in turn make life way easier on himself.

SMC0007 · 12-14-2022, 02:04 PM

Out of boredom between various random sources.
Kuzma, Bogdanovic, Noel, were linked to the Mavs. There's always random rumors and rarely things pan out from them, but I'd be interested in Kuzma to get some more athleticism if we could swing it.

saclare · 12-14-2022, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Out of boredom between various random sources.
Kuzma, Bogdanovic, Noel, were linked to the Mavs. There's always random rumors and rarely things pan out from them, but I'd be interested in Kuzma to get some more athleticism if we could swing it.

Kuzma isn't a bad idea. I just haven't ever really bought into him being a legitimate star. Maybe the rub is from the Lakers days of them trying to anoint him the 2nd star to LeBron.

It would come down to cost with him being a FA next year after a likely opt out. He certainly would add some shot and play making abilities.

Bogdanovic - which one? Obviously Bojan is likely to be moved and would be a good piece for anyone really. I'd keep tabs on Bogdan though, as he's technically expiring, though it really depends on where the Hawks think they're heading. They've already signaled the desire to trade Collins and of course the Mavs are rumored as interested.

I think a trade with the Pacers could still work out. Carlisle might value say THJ and Powell more than the rest of the league. It would be tough to pull off as other teams could offer more, but I'd love to see Myles Turner in a Mavs jersey with a McConnell throw in. Though I think at this level of a trade, teams would be asking about Hardy.

SMC0007 · 12-14-2022, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by saclare

Kuzma isn't a bad idea. I just haven't ever really bought into him being a legitimate star. Maybe the rub is from the Lakers days of them trying to anoint him the 2nd star to LeBron.

It would come down to cost with him being a FA next year after a likely opt out. He certainly would add some shot and play making abilities.

Bogdanovic - which one? Obviously Bojan is likely to be moved and would be a good piece for anyone really. I'd keep tabs on Bogdan though, as he's technically expiring, though it really depends on where the Hawks think they're heading. They've already signaled the desire to trade Collins and of course the Mavs are rumored as interested.

I think a trade with the Pacers could still work out. Carlisle might value say THJ and Powell more than the rest of the league. It would be tough to pull off as other teams could offer more, but I'd love to see Myles Turner in a Mavs jersey with a McConnell throw in. Though I think at this level of a trade, teams would be asking about Hardy.

I don't see Kuzma as a star either, but he has the ability to be one. It's more likely that he would be a good fit as 3rd best player on our team.

Bojan, but I'm not sure how much left he has in the tank.

BPo001 · 12-15-2022, 12:46 PM

Kleber is expected to miss 6-8 weeks, according to The Athletic's Shams Charania.

Torn hamstring at practice.

FreshJive · 12-15-2022, 01:12 PM

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Kleber is expected to miss 6-8 weeks, according to The Athletic's Shams Charania.

Torn hamstring at practice.

Omg. Mavs are screwed. Can?t exactly tank, but they may not win enough to make the playoffs without Maxi.

saclare · 12-15-2022, 01:13 PM

Fuck. That is not good at all.

For Wood, how comfortable is he as a stretch 4? It would seem an opportunity to start Wood with Luka, THJ, DFS and Powell and have Spencer run the 2nd unit. McGee is the only other big and he's not been good.

FreshJive · 12-15-2022, 01:33 PM

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Fuck. That is not good at all.

For Wood, how comfortable is he as a stretch 4? It would seem an opportunity to start Wood with Luka, THJ, DFS and Powell and have Spencer run the 2nd unit. McGee is the only other big and he's not been good.

McGee would seem like the guy to start next to Wood, but he?s been so bad, that he can?t even get minutes against teams like the Cavs. What a disaster the offseason was.

saclare · 12-15-2022, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

McGee would seem like the guy to start next to Wood, but he?s been so bad, that he can?t even get minutes against teams like the Cavs. What a disaster the offseason was.

I can say I had higher hopes for him, for sure. Thought he'd be at least an upgrade on Powell providing size and rebounding. That usage of the exception has not worked out at all to this point.

BPo001 · 12-15-2022, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by saclare

I can say I had higher hopes for him, for sure. Thought he'd be at least an upgrade on Powell providing size and rebounding. That usage of the exception has not worked out at all to this point.

I thought the same thing. Dude is basically unplayable.

SMC0007 · 12-15-2022, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

McGee would seem like the guy to start next to Wood, but he?s been so bad, that he can?t even get minutes against teams like the Cavs. What a disaster the offseason was.

We should have been running Wood and McGee together from day 1 IMO. This experiment has spun out of control.

BPo001 · 12-15-2022, 03:59 PM

Callie Caplan: Tyrell Terry, Mavs? No. 31 overall draft pick in 2020, just announced his retirement from basketball, citing ?the darkest times of my life? and ?the anxiety this sport has caused me.? pic.twitter.com/1Spw5iGQ9y ? via Twitter CallieCaplan

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-15-2022, 04:04 PM

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Callie Caplan: Tyrell Terry, Mavs? No. 31 overall draft pick in 2020, just announced his retirement from basketball, citing ?the darkest times of my life? and ?the anxiety this sport has caused me.? pic.twitter.com/1Spw5iGQ9y ? via Twitter CallieCaplan

Yikes. Add in Tyler Bey who fell off the map for unknown reasons.

Oh, and Josh Richardson who is having a good season and overall been good with Spurs. All of that moaning over losing Curry and Jrich actually is that player just for another team. And we gave him away for nothing.

What the hell is wrong with our franchise?

purplefrog · 12-15-2022, 04:27 PM

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Yikes.
What the hell is wrong with our franchise?

Quite a bit.

SMC0007 · 12-15-2022, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Yikes. Add in Tyler Bey who fell off the map for unknown reasons.

Oh, and Josh Richardson who is having a good season and overall been good with Spurs. All of that moaning over losing Curry and Jrich actually is that player just for another team. And we gave him away for nothing.

What the hell is wrong with our franchise?

Like always, it starts at the top.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-15-2022, 06:58 PM

https://m.basketnews.com/news-174660...nba-teams.html

Last in the league baby. Sell the team.

SMC0007 · 12-15-2022, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

https://m.basketnews.com/news-174660...nba-teams.html

Last in the league baby. Sell the team.

Sheesh. Don't show Luka! He has been ready to contend for about 3 years now...and we are floundering.

JustJay · 12-16-2022, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

https://m.basketnews.com/news-174660...nba-teams.html

Last in the league baby. Sell the team.

He's waiting for that super team.

He'll definitely pay millions and millions in taxes when Giannis and Jokic walk through that door.

Zeus · 12-16-2022, 07:54 AM

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He's waiting for that super team.

He'll definitely pay millions and millions in taxes when Giannis and Jokic walk through that door.

This problem dates all the way back to late Dirk era when we were spinning our wheels and not adding any assets that would take up Mark's precious dry powder. If you recall he made the same F'n mistake in 2018/19 not using available FA money in order to position for a potential Giannis acquisition. In a do over under competent management we would have immediately begun shedding guys in 2018/19 and adding young assets. We find ourselves with no draft capital, no young core players outside of Luka and an aging supporting cast of overpaid replacement level players that have limited trade appeal. We are a half decade into the Luka era and the team building is going in reverse.

EricaLubarsky · 12-16-2022, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

https://m.basketnews.com/news-174660...nba-teams.html

Last in the league baby. Sell the team.

I mean we're 8th this year, which is worse when you think how much we're paying for mediocrity. More importantly, it means we have no ways of getting high-caliber players via FA and the best we can hope for is MLE guys like McGee.

And prior years were supposed to be rebuild years but we lucked into Luka.

Not apologizing for the team in general, but it's deceptive to lump in the final years of Dirk into the discussion. All teams in rebuilds/fades see lower spending.

tap2390 · 12-18-2022, 11:29 AM

Assuming we have a wink wink agreement for an extension, I would strongly encourage the Mavericks to seek out a trade for Kyle Kuzma. Something like Powell or Wood and a future 1st.

SMC0007 · 12-18-2022, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Assuming we have a wink wink agreement for an extension, I would strongly encourage the Mavericks to seek out a trade for Kyle Kuzma. Something like Powell or Wood and a future 1st.

Minus the 1st. Kuzma is not that good.

Zeus · 12-20-2022, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Minus the 1st. Kuzma is not that good.

Kuzma - the dude that went exactly 20 picks after DSJ in 2017. DSJ - the failed pick that resulted in the Mavs taking the ill fated flyer on KP which led to us not having any assets, draft picks or dry powder.

saclare · 12-20-2022, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

Kuzma - the dude that went exactly 20 picks after DSJ in 2017. DSJ - the failed pick that resulted in the Mavs taking the ill fated flyer on KP which led to us not having any assets, draft picks or dry powder.

Does Kuzma increase that year's Mavs team at winning a few more games? If so, then no Luka the following year. Hell, we lucked into him anyway with the Hawks blunder.

Zeus · 12-21-2022, 09:18 AM

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Does Kuzma increase that year's Mavs team at winning a few more games? If so, then no Luka the following year. Hell, we lucked into him anyway with the Hawks blunder.

Highly doubtful. DSJ contributed on that horrible Mavs team.