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Old 06-01-2016, 04:34 PM   #1
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It's a ripoff In the way that the heroes journey is retold. Is O Brother Where Art Though a rip off of the Odyssey? The idea of balance to the universe and spiraling storylines are built into the almost Shinto religion of the Jedis. It's about connecting to the past. Is it any surprise that we see a new story with parallels to the repeating stories?

Americans have the idea of ripping off ideas way off. It's about iteration and revision. People have been riffing on older stories since we first started telling stories.

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Old 06-01-2016, 05:41 PM   #2
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It's a ripoff In the way that the heroes journey is retold. Is O Brother Where Art Though a rip off of the Odyssey? The idea of balance to the universe and spiraling storylines are built into the almost Shinto religion of the Jedis. It's about connecting to the past. Is it any surprise that we see a new story with parallels to the repeating stories?

Americans have the idea of ripping off ideas way off. It's about iteration and revision. People have been riffing on older stories since we first started telling stories.
If the Cohens wrote and directed a movie of the Odyssey, then made O Brother Where Art Thou as a sequel, your point might be relevant... Seriously, read my last post again and tell me JarJar Abrams didn't just copy/paste the script of A New Hope. You don't have to repeat the same story to play on nostalgia, you just need to bring back all the characters that we already know & love. Repeating the same story is just LAZY and fails to capture the wonder that made Star Wars worth a damn in the first place. Even the godawful prequels managed to introduce new ideas and themes to the franchise -- TFA does neither.

If this is what passes for quality entertainment in America, then maybe we deserve whatever hell Hillary or Trump are about to unleash on us -- obviously we're just simple-minded children who don't know any better (or at best, we don't care!)
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It's a ripoff In the way that the heroes journey is retold. Is O Brother Where Art Though a rip off of the Odyssey? The idea of balance to the universe and spiraling storylines are built into the almost Shinto religion of the Jedis. It's about connecting to the past. Is it any surprise that we see a new story with parallels to the repeating stories?

Americans have the idea of ripping off ideas way off. It's about iteration and revision. People have been riffing on older stories since we first started telling stories.
Here's the problem... It's one thing to borrow liberally in a manner such as O Brother Where Art Thou and the Odyssey... It's a completely different thing to do so within the same movie franchise....
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Here's the problem... It's one thing to borrow liberally in a manner such as O Brother Where Art Thou and the Odyssey... It's a completely different thing to do so within the same movie franchise....
That's a fair point, but I think Jurassic World did the same thing. I mean, the Indominus Rex is basically the Spinosaurus from part 3. They sell the IR as being part Raptor and what not, but it's essentially still the same idea of being a bigger, badder T-Rex.

But yes, TFA is basically SW 4, 5, and 6 wrapped up into one movie. But you know, those three movies are arguably the best trilogy of all time. To completely damn a movie for wanting to be those is a bit misguided when your goal is to make billions off of a single film. And after the horrible prequels, it was almost a given that the franchise was going to emulate what people liked and wanted. And why pretend that Star Wars isn't a well oiled corporate franchise? Anything that becomes as popular as Star Wars goes the same route of cha ching cha ching.

And being unoriginal doesn't equate to being bad and being original doesn't equate to being good. TFA was still a decent movie, imo, original or not. And the main characters Rey, Ren, and Finn are all reasonably different from what we've seen in the past.
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