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Old 04-19-2010, 07:40 PM   #761
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I want a Dirk statue in front of the AAC the year after he retires. Statue of his one leg fade away...
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When are the all-nba teams announced? Dirk deserves it over Durant but I doubt he'll get it.
No way in hell he is over Durant.

He can be glad being over Anthony.
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Old 04-19-2010, 10:27 PM   #763
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No way in hell he is over Durant.

He can be glad being over Anthony.
He won't be over Durant, and maybe he shouldn't be. That said, Dirk is still a superior player to Durant IMO.
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No way in hell he is over Durant.

He can be glad being over Anthony.
Dirk can score as well as either of those 2 . The only thing I can see that hurts him is he has no Defense. Durant can play D and Melo can play D when he wants to.
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Dirk can score as well as either of those 2 . The only thing I can see that hurts him is he has no Defense. Durant can play D and Melo can play D when he wants to.
Fail.
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I want a Dirk statue in front of the AAC the year after he retires. Statue of his one leg fade away...
I agree. The fade away would be a great statue for him. A close second might be the gun show he showed us earlier this year.
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On a side note... something is wrong with the GameScore stat if that was just a 34.3.
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Fail.
Lol maybe I should have left it at he can score as good as both of them!? why fail?
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Lol maybe I should have left it at he can score as good as both of them!? why fail?
Because Dirk is actually a solid-above average defender. He has finished Top 10 in win shares twice, and finished top 20 this year. He's not great at protecting the rim because he's not a center, but his man defense of PF's is quite above average. You're either stuck in 1999 or listening to a Jamal Mashburn Podcast.
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Because Dirk is actually a solid-above average defender. He has finished Top 10 in win shares twice, and finished top 20 this year. He's not great at protecting the rim because he's not a center, but his man defense of PF's is quite above average. You're either stuck in 1999 or listening to a Jamal Mashburn Podcast.
Nah I just go buy what I see night after night. I have seen quite a few people score on him enough to say his defense is ok . He has good timing for stripping defenders and thats pretty much it. Not trying to upset anyone , just stating my opinon is all.
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When dirk talked about drowning his sorrows he wasn't kidding around!! I like the loose tie action. He says "screw the glass".


http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/06/dirk-n...-nba-playoffs/

Dirk Nowitzki Ties One On after Playoff Loss

Originally posted May 7th 2010 12:15 AM PDT by TMZ Staff
Dallas Mavericks star Dirk Nowitzki knows how to lose the bitter taste of defeat -- simply knock back a bottle of tequila two days after getting knocked out of the NBA playoffs.



Dirk stuck out like a sore thumb Saturday night at LIV nightclub in Miami -- where the 7-footer was photographed drowning his sorrows while towering over several intrigued woman.

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When dirk talked about drowning his sorrows he wasn't kidding around!! I like the loose tie action. He says "screw the glass".


http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/06/dirk-n...-nba-playoffs/

Dirk Nowitzki Ties One On after Playoff Loss

Originally posted May 7th 2010 12:15 AM PDT by TMZ Staff
Dallas Mavericks star Dirk Nowitzki knows how to lose the bitter taste of defeat -- simply knock back a bottle of tequila two days after getting knocked out of the NBA playoffs.



Dirk stuck out like a sore thumb Saturday night at LIV nightclub in Miami -- where the 7-footer was photographed drowning his sorrows while towering over several intrigued woman.




OH NO... what was he doing in Miami? Please tell me you're not going to the Heat Dirk. We need you here in Dallas, I need you here in Dallas
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OH NO... what was he doing in Miami? Please tell me you're not going to the Heat Dirk. We need you here in Dallas, I need you here in Dallas
Don't worry, he is just there to recruit D-Wade...
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YEAH!"! Love this picture. He always looks so tortured after losses. Enjoy your millions and some mindless whores for once Dirk !
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YEAH!"! Love this picture. He always looks so tortured after losses. Enjoy your millions and some mindless whores for once Dirk !
I concur. A bottle of tequila and some mindless whores will quickly melt your troubles away.
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I concur. A bottle of tequila and some mindless whores will quickly melt your troubles away.
Hasn't he been down that road before?
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It was a helluva ride however. there's something to be said for enjoying the journey.
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Don't worry, he is just there to recruit D-Wade...
I wouldn't be too surprised if it ends up the other way around. Miami looks to be replacing their coach with Riley again. That could be a big selling point on who comes and goes from that team.

If I just got knocked out of the playoffs, again, thanks in part to a coach's stubbornness, and local papers were writing about how I was the problem and needed to leave, I might be tempted to go somewhere else.

Miami is a nice city and having Riley on the bench is a much bigger asset than Jim Carey. Also Miami seems to have more room to add players than Dallas. Yeah we all talk about this DUST chip, but I have yet to see anyone make any offer including it. I would think that if this was such a big asset then why didn't Washington try to get a hold of it. Now add the fact that Heywood (not signed to the next years line up) has grumbled about the coach and you're talking about trading away your only other center. That leaves a big hole in the lineup.

What did the STACK chip get us? Marion? That's an upgrade, but not exactly a world beater. I don't see Damp's contract landing a top 5 free agent, most likely the best guy we can get, without regard to if he actually fills any gaps. That seems to be Cuban and Donnie's M.O.
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I'm right there with ya Dirk...
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It was a helluva ride however. there's something to be said for enjoying the journey.
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Yeah we all talk about this DUST chip, but I have yet to see anyone make any offer including it.
That's because nobody CAN make an offer until after the season is over...

(and the DUST Chip doesn't technically exist until this summer - nobody seems to understand this...)
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Arroyo
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QRich
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J O'Neal

Beasley, Haslem (who both play the same position as Dirk)

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Kidd
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Marion
Dirk
Haywood

Beaubois, Terry, Damp



EDIT: the answer here is ridiculously simple: Mavs > Heat... Dirk doesn't increase his chances of winning a ring in Miami, but Wade does in Dallas.
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Considering those lineups, the Mavs have a huge advantage.

Haywood(when he tries) > J O'neal
Kidd > Arroyo
Marion > Qrich.

Dirk > everyone.
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I wouldn't be too surprised if it ends up the other way around. Miami looks to be replacing their coach with Riley again. That could be a big selling point on who comes and goes from that team.

If I just got knocked out of the playoffs, again, thanks in part to a coach's stubbornness, and local papers were writing about how I was the problem and needed to leave, I might be tempted to go somewhere else.

Miami is a nice city and having Riley on the bench is a much bigger asset than Jim Carey. Also Miami seems to have more room to add players than Dallas. Yeah we all talk about this DUST chip, but I have yet to see anyone make any offer including it. I would think that if this was such a big asset then why didn't Washington try to get a hold of it. Now add the fact that Heywood (not signed to the next years line up) has grumbled about the coach and you're talking about trading away your only other center. That leaves a big hole in the lineup.

What did the STACK chip get us? Marion? That's an upgrade, but not exactly a world beater. I don't see Damp's contract landing a top 5 free agent, most likely the best guy we can get, without regard to if he actually fills any gaps. That seems to be Cuban and Donnie's M.O.
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YEAH!"! Love this picture. He always looks so tortured after losses. Enjoy your millions and some mindless whores for once Dirk !
He just needs to make sure he's EXTRA safe. Those "ladies" are like wolves just waiting to pounce. BE SAFE DIRK!
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EDIT: the answer here is ridiculously simple: Mavs > Heat.
Umm would Dirk want to play with an aging Caron Butler as his #2 or Dwade? I don't care who the other guys are, Dirk and Wade would dominate together. And Wade might not want to come to Dallas, but Dirk may want to go to Miami.

Don't think either will happen, though.
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If Riley were coaching and Dirk could go there with Diva...that would be tough for him to pass up.
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If Riley were coaching and Dirk could go there with Diva...that would be tough for him to pass up.


I'm afraid you might be right. That deal sounds too good to pass up. Just don't make it reality Dirk.
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Umm, I included Butler in a trade for Wade in that scenario... Do you see his name in the lineup?

And you might not care who the other guys are on the team, but Wade and Dirk might (especially if they want to win a ring!)

So put the two of them together in the city that has the stronger supporting cast. That's Dallas.
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That's because nobody CAN make an offer until after the season is over...

(and the DUST Chip doesn't technically exist until this summer - nobody seems to understand this...)
Anyone could have traded for Damp at any time. As far as I have understood the asset of the option on his contract would have gone with him.
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Arroyo
Wade
QRich
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J O'Neal

Beasley, Haslem (who both play the same position as Dirk)

OR

Kidd
Wade
Marion
Dirk
Haywood

Beaubois, Terry, Damp



EDIT: the answer here is ridiculously simple: Mavs > Heat... Dirk doesn't increase his chances of winning a ring in Miami, but Wade does in Dallas.
Haywood has yet to be resigned.

Also if Dirk were in Miami, he wouldn't have to worry about loosing games because of a Ref's bias against his team's owner.

This is all just hypothetical, but It wouldn't be a stretch to say a Miami + Dirk scenario would have a better shot (especially in the Eastern Conference) at a ring than a Dallas + DWade scenario.
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If they don´t win it all this year then Orlando would be the best option for Dirk. He is a perfect fit for that team. And the money probably wouldn´t matter to him.

That said here´s a take from espn about free agency and Dirk:



Dirk Nowitzki, Steve Nash reunited?
Mavs star could right Cuban's wrong by opting to join Suns after season

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Next month the Summer of Possibilities begins. No, that's not a romantic comedy starring Jennifer Aniston and whatever new guy she is dating. I'm talking about a different sort of pairing, the kind NBA fans have been fantasizing about for two years.

LeBron and Wade.

Kobe and Bosh.

New York and all of the above.

With the most talented group of free agents in recent memory finally able to explore the market, one can't help but get excited over how this is all going to play out. But I have to tell you, when I close my eyes and think about a dream pairing, I keep coming back to a different duo:

Dirk and Nash.

Yes, I know we've seen that one before. Yes, I know, it doesn't appear as if Dirk Nowitzki is going to opt out of his contract, and if he does, it's unlikely he'll leave the Mavs. But a guy can dream, can't he? Nothing against Dallas, but for a while there, Dirk and Steve Nash were the most exciting tandem in the NBA. And they were winning. Free agency split them too soon. I can't help but wonder whether free agency could bring them back together.

I spoke with a handful of NBA execs, and to a man, they said that if those two had stayed together, they likely would've won a ring. The execs also said that if the players were reunited, provided they had a good supporting cast in Phoenix, they still could.

Hindsight is 20/20, and obviously Dirk and Nash are not the players now they were in Dallas from 1998 through 2004. I can't blame Mark Cuban for thinking it was best to let Nash walk. He was good, not great, and $10 million to $12 million a year is a lot for 30-year-old point guard who can't play D.

Here's what we know today: Cuban blew it. Especially when you consider Jason Kidd. Since he and his $20 million-a-year contract arrived in Dallas midway through the 2007-08 season, Cuban has paid the declining and offensively limited point guard a heck of a lot more money to run the team than he would've spent on keeping one of the greatest shooters of all time to do the same job.

As for the defensive differences between the two: The 37-year-old Kidd hasn't locked up anyone born after 1980 since he arrived from New Jersey. Nash might not keep continual defensive pressure on his man, but his scoring and penetration do, which partially explains why Spurs guard George Hill has 10 fouls in two games against the Suns so far this series after fouling only six times in as many games in the first-round series against the Mavs.

Cuban gambled, and he was wrong. If Amare Stoudemire opts out of his contract and walks away from the Suns, I'd love to see Dirk walk into Phoenix, where he and Nash would have a shot at correcting that wrong.

Yes, we've seen those names on the same team before, but we have not seen these two mature players together. The first time around, they were still developing and trying to adjust to the wrong roles. Three MVPs and a bucket full of playoff heartbreak later, they are two all-time greats desperate to win a championship and still talented enough to be the focal point of a team that can do it.

In Dallas, Dirk and Cuban, who reportedly have spent time together since the team's third first-round ouster in four years, will tinker with the roster and once again try to figure out how Dirk can use his No. 2 mentality to fill the team's No. 1 space. Ah, but in Phoenix, Dirk would finally be in the complementary role because of Nash's development.

That's no slam at Dirk -- he is a beautiful player to watch -- but he's not the natural leader Nash is, or at least has become these past six seasons. Many of Dallas' postseason shortcomings -- losing in the 2006 Finals, the playoff series loss to No. 8 Golden State in 2007 -- can be attributed to Dirk being miscast. Nash knows exactly who Dirk is. Cuban is still trying to find the right formula to turn Dirk into someone he is not.

Sometimes a team's best player isn't "the man," and that's OK. It was difficult to see who was what when Dirk and Nash were together in Dallas. Now that they've had some time apart, the roles are clear.

The summer after the 2007 season -- the one in which Stoudemire and Boris Diaw were suspended for leaving the bench during the Suns' bloody battle with the Spurs -- I asked Nash whether he felt his window to win a championship in Phoenix was closing. At the time, he said in Zen-like fashion, "The only window that exists is this year."

When I think about a do-over with Nash and Dirk, I feel the same way: The only window that exists for them to reunite is this year. I hope Dirk doesn't let it close because Dallas is all he's known or because of his friendship with Cuban. I hope he sees this as a chance to rejoin his buddy and complete some unfinished business.

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Dirk said he'd take less money to allow the Mavs more cap flexibility and y'all are still convinced he's gonna walk?

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Anyone could have traded for Damp at any time. As far as I have understood the asset of the option on his contract would have gone with him.
Yeah, but any team that signed him would've had to pay him $9mil for the 09-10 season (or half that at the trade deadline) - nobody seeking cap relief is giving him that kind of money just so they can waive him a year later. That's why the "DUST (Dampier ULTIMATE Sign-n-Trade) Chip" can't technically exist until this summer...
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I hope he stays. And even moreso I hope the Mavs will be able to make the changes necessary to convince him to stay. Because if they don´t but he still stays or even extends for whatever reason his career will be wasted. The only scenario where I can see him walk is if it becomes obvious that none of the high profile FAs wants to come to Dallas. I doubt Dirk would want to give it another shot with the exact same or just slightly tweaked roster. Butler or Terry as a NR.2 option doesn´t cut it and Dirk knows that (and Kidd as starting PG probably won´t cut it either).

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I hope he stays. And even moreso I hope the Mavs will be able to make the changes necessary to convince him to stay. Because if they don´t but he still stays or even extends for whatever reason his career will be wasted. The only scenario where I can see him walk is if it becomes obvious that none of the high profile FAs wants to come to Dallas. I doubt Dirk would want to give it another shot with the exact same or just slightly tweaked roster. Butler or Terry as a NR.2 option doesn´t cut it and Dirk knows that (and Kidd as starting PG probably won´t cut it either).
I agree with most of this.

I also agree (for hypothetical purposes) that if Dirk was to leave the Mavs, teaming up with Dwight Howard would be an excellent move (Dirk has always been a Shaq away from winning it all...)
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Also if Dirk were in Miami, he wouldn't have to worry about loosing games because of a Ref's bias against his team's owner.

This is all just hypothetical, but It wouldn't be a stretch to say a Miami + Dirk scenario would have a better shot (especially in the Eastern Conference) at a ring than a Dallas + DWade scenario.
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Why would Dirk and Nash be more exciting than Nash and Stoudamire? We're talking about exciting here....and Stoudamire fits much better with what Nash brings than Dirk...exciting wise...and probably basketball wise, too.
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I saw/met Dirk today @ Adventure Landing (the one on Coit near UTD) he was hanging out with a little boy probably doing a big brother type program maybe I'm not sure. He was driving go karts with him and other people that just happened to be the luckiest people on earth to ride! I went there to go to the batting cages and my friend's friend told us Dirk was here and I could not think for myself. He looks really tall in person and it was the closest I've ever been to him and I want to reiterate...being 7 feet tall...is really tall! Me and my friend left and followed the two out to the parking lot. I was expecting a high profile car but Dirk drove an escalade SUV, and it is high profile but not compared to an athletes salary. He pulled out and we pulled out but he parked to the side and waited because I guess he didn't want anyone following him so we just left and I understand that. Really cool experience I said whatsup he said hows it going and it was really cool. This experience just makes my appreciation for Dirk 1 billion times higher!!! This happened like 2-3 hours ago. I don't have photographic evidence but I have the memory and I really wanted to crash into his escalade so when we exchanged insurance I could ask him to sign something of mine
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