Now what?

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

That's still a large chunk of change for Brunson. I'm on record for saying 30 mil year, and I woulda paid it.

But plenty of fans cut their offer off at 22.5, and that isn't unreasonable. 30 mil contracts are hard to move if they aren't a top tier player, and even then, often difficult to match salary. I look at similarly tiered Brogdon in that regard. He is making 22.5 and still only got you a bunch of guys you've never heard of and a meh first rounder (top 12 protected in 2023 and turns into a second rounder if not conveyed).

I would?ve definitely gone over the Knicks offer. Not sure I?d go all the way to 30m. The Knicks deal is descending so I guess we probably could?ve done the same, so it starts at let?s say 29.5 and becomes better as it goes on. If I?m Cuban, I do ANYTHiNG to make sure Luka doesn?t leave. If we kept Brunson with Wood and McGee added we are serious contenders if everything breaks right and we have all picks to trade again soon. Now we need to find a guy who replaces what JB brought instead of basically being a two way larger wing away from complete. Brunson AND Siakam or someone like him, though I maybe prefer a better shooter than Pascal we probably won?t be in a position to be choosy.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by mac222b

I would?ve definitely gone over the Knicks offer. Not sure I?d go all the way to 30m. The Knicks deal is descending so I guess we probably could?ve done the same, so it starts at let?s say 29.5 and becomes better as it goes on. If I?m Cuban, I do ANYTHiNG to make sure Luka doesn?t leave. If we kept Brunson with Wood and McGee added we are serious contenders if everything breaks right and we have all picks to trade again soon. Now we need to find a guy who replaces what JB brought instead of basically being a two way larger wing away from complete. Brunson AND Siakam or someone like him, though I maybe prefer a better shooter than Pascal we probably won?t be in a position to be choosy.

Is Brunson the anything to keep Luka from leaving move? I'm not sure. The Knicks treated Brunson like he was Luka, and that's hard to match. And Brunson's defense absolutely killed us vs GS. In fact, I remember that just like I remember his greatness vs the Jazz. So you're committing to your three best players, Luka, Spencer, and Brunson as guys who don't play defense. And it did eventually kill us in the playoffs.

Schroder makes sense because his role wouldn't be as big as Brunson's. I like him a lot off the bench if we can sign him.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Is Brunson the anything to keep Luka from leaving move? I'm not sure. The Knicks treated Brunson like he was Luka, and that's hard to match. And Brunson's defense absolutely killed us vs GS. In fact, I remember that just like I remember his greatness vs the Jazz. So you're committing to your three best players, Luka, Spencer, and Brunson as guys who don't play defense. And it did eventually kill us in the playoffs.

Schroder makes sense because his role wouldn't be as big as Brunson's. I like him a lot off the bench if we can sign him.

I wasnt seeing Brunson as the coup de grace or anything like that. I think we can still recover, mainly due to Luka. I think we would?ve been better served using our assets to try to find our second best player, preferably a big wing, along with keeping Brunson. So to me we lost our second best player, though you could call DFS that last season with little argument from me, for nothing and created a new hole to fill. We almost NEED our new #2 to be a better creator/ball handler/initiator than someone like Wiggins or OG Anonoby now that Brunson is gone. Instead of applying finishing touches to a contender we created a new problem. Im not saying resigning Brunson makes Luka staying a slam dunk. I think the Mavs losing their second or third best player for nothing, a player who was homegrown, not to mention the way it went down where we are once again left looking clueless or ill prepared, is a bad look. Too many of these situations contribute to a league wide perception of the Mavs franchise (i.e Cuban) as something or someone to be taken slightly less then seriously. And Cuban had no problem overpaying the Harrison Barnes of the world when he was desperate. All that said, maybe Brunson really wanted to be in NY and we really didn?t value him higher than 21.5. Im sure Portland doesnt value Nurkic as a 16 million dollar player. They kept him to make their star happy and to not lose an asset for nothing, while creating another hole on the roster.

[BigDog63]

Originally Posted by mac222b

I would?ve definitely gone over the Knicks offer. Not sure I?d go all the way to 30m. The Knicks deal is descending so I guess we probably could?ve done the same, so it starts at let?s say 29.5 and becomes better as it goes on. If I?m Cuban, I do ANYTHiNG to make sure Luka doesn?t leave. If we kept Brunson with Wood and McGee added we are serious contenders if everything breaks right and we have all picks to trade again soon. Now we need to find a guy who replaces what JB brought instead of basically being a two way larger wing away from complete. Brunson AND Siakam or someone like him, though I maybe prefer a better shooter than Pascal we probably won?t be in a position to be choosy.

Have that guy on our roster already: Dinwiddie. Everyone seems to forget he made a very similar playoff run for the Knicks two years ago. He might well just be a taller, better defending Brunson.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by BigDog63

Have that guy on our roster already: Dinwiddie. Everyone seems to forget he made a very similar playoff run for the Knicks two years ago. He might well just be a taller, better defending Brunson.

Dinwiddie is close enough to JB, but the problem I see is they've talked about SD starting alongside Luka. I'm not sure who comes off the bench in that case, we really don't have a proven reliable back up floor general. They're going to have to get tricky with rotations

With Wood not starting, it makes it even more interesting. One of those starting guards will likely come off for rest when Wood comes in. So SD runs point with Wood or Luka stays on for a few more mins. I think it's a stupid idea to bring Wood off the bench period, then adding SD to the SLU makes things even more confusing.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by BigDog63

Have that guy on our roster already: Dinwiddie. Everyone seems to forget he made a very similar playoff run for the Knicks two years ago. He might well just be a taller, better defending Brunson.

no one forgot about him. he was great as a third ball handler. now that hes the second best ball handler on the team, whos going to fill his spot from last year off the bench?

lets not forget his limitations either. hes does not have the consistency of brunson, but hes a very solid ball handler/creator to have.