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Old 07-21-2021, 05:16 PM   #1
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IMO they are the definition of borderline stars. But that doesn't matter really, what matters is both Holiday and Middleton played better than KP. So whatever you want to call them whether it's legit star or not or borderline our supporting players aren't on their level or at least didn't perform on that level this last year.
KP at this point is barely a #3 and that might be generous….
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KP at this point is barely a #3 and that might be generous….
This is a little ridiculous. KP's effort in the playoffs was inexcusable, but it might shock you to know that he shot his best FG% of his career and second best 3 pt% last season.

I'm just saying that he is far closer to a productive player than one that is worthless. 7'3 guys that average 20/9 don't grow on trees.

If we got Derozan and KP comes back to form, then you have a very potent one, two, three with Luka.

And that is basically my point when mentioning Giannis and how Luka can do the same thing.
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Old 07-22-2021, 11:52 AM   #3
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This is a little ridiculous. KP's effort in the playoffs was inexcusable, but it might shock you to know that he shot his best FG% of his career and second best 3 pt% last season.

I'm just saying that he is far closer to a productive player than one that is worthless. 7'3 guys that average 20/9 don't grow on trees.

If we got Derozan and KP comes back to form, then you have a very potent one, two, three with Luka.

And that is basically my point when mentioning Giannis and how Luka can do the same thing.
So this is the thing....I went down a list of NBA players.....and how many I'd currently right now take over KP.......Some teams had 4 or 5 players I'd take over him. Some teams had 2 or 3....some of those teams weren't even playoff teams.

HEre's a list of the best players.....this was made in December and it ranked KP at 30.....which may be fair at round that time.....

But then I looked and saw who was behind him and if we could right now trade those guys for KP.......


JAylen Brown, Ingram, Kemba Walker, Jrue, Russ, Draymon, Morant, Fox, Van Fleet, Brogdon, Hayward, Smart, Sabonis, SGA, Lavine, Jaren Jackson, Vuc, Conley, Nurkic, Derozen, Aldridge, Covington, Levert, Bogdan, Ayton, Russel, Warren, John Collins, Tobias, Bojan, Turner, Dragic, Gordon, Christian Wood, Anunoby.....gonna stop there becuase I think at that point you're dealing with even some bench guys but I got to 67.......and out of all these guys I'd trade every single one of them for KP EXCEPT Draymon, Mike Conley, Bojan, Bogdnan, Dragic and Nurkic.........

I can't right now say he's a legit #2 just because of his field goal percentage.....he's not dominating games.....feels like he's letting the game come to him.
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So this is the thing....I went down a list of NBA players.....and how many I'd currently right now take over KP.......Some teams had 4 or 5 players I'd take over him. Some teams had 2 or 3....some of those teams weren't even playoff teams.

HEre's a list of the best players.....this was made in December and it ranked KP at 30.....which may be fair at round that time.....

But then I looked and saw who was behind him and if we could right now trade those guys for KP.......


JAylen Brown, Ingram, Kemba Walker, Jrue, Russ, Draymon, Morant, Fox, Van Fleet, Brogdon, Hayward, Smart, Sabonis, SGA, Lavine, Jaren Jackson, Vuc, Conley, Nurkic, Derozen, Aldridge, Covington, Levert, Bogdan, Ayton, Russel, Warren, John Collins, Tobias, Bojan, Turner, Dragic, Gordon, Christian Wood, Anunoby.....gonna stop there becuase I think at that point you're dealing with even some bench guys but I got to 67.......and out of all these guys I'd trade every single one of them for KP EXCEPT Draymon, Mike Conley, Bojan, Bogdnan, Dragic and Nurkic.........

I can't right now say he's a legit #2 just because of his field goal percentage.....he's not dominating games.....feels like he's letting the game come to him.
KP shot 47.6% from 2 and 37.6% from 3. You’re saying that’s bad?
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Old 07-23-2021, 09:39 AM   #5
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KP shot 47.6% from 2 and 37.6% from 3. You’re saying that’s bad?
No, the poster I Was replying to said KP put up one of his highest field percentages of his career and I was saying just because he had a high field goal percentage doesn't make him a #2 right now. I think we need better there. Because to me if he's your #2 that must mean Tim Hardaway or someone of his caliber is your #3.
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No, the poster I Was replying to said KP put up one of his highest field percentages of his career and I was saying just because he had a high field goal percentage doesn't make him a #2 right now. I think we need better there. Because to me if he's your #2 that must mean Tim Hardaway or someone of his caliber is your #3.
So putting up 20/9 in the regular season isn’t good enough to be a #2? We all know he struggled (vanished) in the PO, but it almost seems like it was due to the coaching staff basically telling him to stand in the corner. I still don’t understand why they did that. Seems to me that they should have run the offense through him while Luka was getting a breather on the bench.
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So putting up 20/9 in the regular season isn’t good enough to be a #2? We all know he struggled (vanished) in the PO, but it almost seems like it was due to the coaching staff basically telling him to stand in the corner. I still don’t understand why they did that. Seems to me that they should have run the offense through him while Luka was getting a breather on the bench.
If I never saw the performance in the playoffs I'd probably even agree with that ranking above that he's probably in the 30th range in the NBA.

And I'd probably even be willing to agree that the coaches used him wrong but I can just go by what I see and I can't if he even enjoys playing here. I think the biggest discouraging thing to me is his lack of post game for his size.......
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