AW

[PubaNWO]

he needs 30-35 min. and the leesh needs to be removed!!!!

[MavKikiNYC]

Originally posted by: PubaNWO
he needs 30-35 min.... !

in the NBDL.

[grndmstr_c]

He needs to do more to help the team, or he needs to sit in favor of Eddie and Shawn. He's not worth anything if he's getting shut down by Floppy on offense and abused by SheWebb on defense.

[PubaNWO]

She-webb was abusing everyone in the first half of last game....he fatigued and clearly lost energy to be as effective in the 2nd...

yes divac gettin the blocks is not acceptable but only happens because AW is not using his quickness effectively....he should be taking Divac off the dribble or pulling up for a 3....

AW's game has been totally caged though and he's become predictable......i think he's lost his edge so Nellie better let him loose because this is the time....this is why the Mavs traded for Walker and Jamison...for their offense.....

[grndmstr_c]

Rationalize it all you want, but if Walker is getting burned without burning anyone he's not helping. That's what happened Tuesday, and that's why he only played 21 minutes or whatever it was. Dallas has too much depth at the power forward and center position, and Walker is too inefficient on offense for any reasonable person to be making the argument you're making. If he comes out on Saturday and he's clicking, then keep him on the floor. If he's not then sit him in favor of some guys who can get some stops.

[PubaNWO]

Sorry to burst your bubbles, but Eddie didn't have THAT much of an effect on Webber.

[grndmstr_c]

Sorry to burst your bubbles, but Eddie didn't have THAT much of an effect on Webber.

Quit while you're behind, Puba.

[dirno2000]

The problem with Walker is that he's scared to go to the FT line. It's probably embarrassing when you can only make about 50% of them. He had a number of opportunities early in the 3rd quarter to power the ball up in the lane. Instead, he'd rather over head fake and try to avoid contact. If he’s going to play like that Nellie has to sit him.

[u2sarajevo]

sucks

[harsh euro barge]

After seeing game 2, I think I could beat Antoine Walker in a lay-up contest

[PubaNWO]

he's not being quick enough down low and when he is he's TOO quick and ends up missing the rim....

he did make his first 2 inside shots guys....

problem was the next few he had to "put the moves" when they weren't necessary....just straight up and over woulda been suffice....

[PubaNWO]

plus I'm not sayin he should play more just so he can shoot more....

I'm saying he should make plays more and it has to start where he has the advantage.....outside.....

[dirno2000]

I'm saying he should make plays more and it has to start where he has the advantage.....outside.....

I agree with this. Walker had success late in the season breaking down defenses by taking opposing centers off of the dribble. I don't think we've done a good job of taking advantage of the fact that Divac and Webber can guard Dirk and Walker off of the dribble.

[PubaNWO]

Do you guys see Nash easily breaking their perimeter D and gettin wide open layups?

Daniels too easily got in the lane and took mid range shots (not all fell) most of which were good shots!

We can't settle for the 3 ball....we rely on that a bit too much and I know run and gun is Mavs ball but lately it's just been 1 guy running and gunning when the flow isn't there....or its just gunnin and no running....

we need everyone to run and gun....get some easy dunks and layups....

[ddh33]

Truth is, Walker isn't nearly as bad as he's shown himself to be here. It's just that he is every bit that bad as a Mav.

That's why I think he's got to be moved this offseason - win or lose. He's a bad fit, and that is putting it kindly.

[PubaNWO]

Well he hasn't adjusted well throughout the year but this is the first year of 2....

but if he plays better next year the more likley he'll get traded....

if he continues to struggle no team would take him but a team looking to unload salary....

[Chelette]

I will say....leave Walker on the bench the rest of the games.....bring him on only is the Mavrs are winning by 30 pts.in the 4th. He can pass the towels and water to the rest of the players.....while he sees and learn how to be a team player, a better shooter, a big defender....

[mavsman55]

He should never be relied on to score. Plain and simple. But if he is playing defense, then play him big minutes. If he is getting burned like he has been so frequently in the past 2 games, bench him. He's not good for much else.

Originally posted by: PubaNWO
Sorry to burst your bubbles, but Eddie didn't have THAT much of an effect on Webber.

Sorry to burst your bubbles, but you must have not been watching the Webber/Najera matchup THAT closely. Webber finished the first half with 13 points, 11 rebounds, and 9 assists. He finished the game with 19 points, 13 rebounds, and 12 assists. This means that in the 2nd half, Webber was, with Najera playing him, able to collect 6 points, 2 rebounds, and 3 assists. Pretty crappy if you ask me. Najera should be getting more minutes, not Walker.

[jayC]

I think the same has to be said for previous horses nash and finley. If they aren't scoring they aren't helping.

[DNNF]

Originally posted by: PubaNWO
he needs 30-35 min. and the leesh needs to be removed!!!!

He needs 35 or 40 mins on the bench. He's lucky that his lover "Nellie" allow him to play for 10 mins. AW can't make a damn layup to save his career.

[PubaNWO]

Originally posted by: DNNF

He needs 35 or 40 mins on the bench. He's lucky that his lover "Nellie" allow him to play for 10 mins. AW can't make a damn layup to save his career.

This is not true he made his first shot which was a layup.....the problem the rest of the way is he was either being challenged downlow where almost everyone he plays in the West is taller and bigger, or he was trying to draw a foul and could never get the call. He missed one half hook shot that was close but not technically a layup.

Scott Williams came in and missed two easy shots as well. Najera barely made his only shot in game 2 and Webber was gettin any shot he wanted against Najera but was just cold like the rest of the Kings.....

[PubaNWO]

Originally posted by: mavsman55
He should never be relied on to score. Plain and simple. But if he is playing defense, then play him big minutes. If he is getting burned like he has been so frequently in the past 2 games, bench him. He's not good for much else.

Sorry to burst your bubbles, but you must have not been watching the Webber/Najera matchup THAT closely. Webber finished the first half with 13 points, 11 rebounds, and 9 assists. He finished the game with 19 points, 13 rebounds, and 12 assists. This means that in the 2nd half, Webber was, with Najera playing him, able to collect 6 points, 2 rebounds, and 3 assists. Pretty crappy if you ask me. Najera should be getting more minutes, not Walker.

I think Webber just got tired cause he carried the Kings in the first half. He would have ended up with 25 assists if the rest of his teammates would have knocked down their open shots.

Eddie got lucky to be in the game when everyone was in a cold funk.

[mcsluggo]

I actually agree.

At this point webber simply isn't up to playing a full game at full speed. He is still not in shape yet, and he gets worn down.

If miller and/or divacs had anything left in THEIR tanks, I think Webber would (or at least should) be sitting more. But as it stands Adelman simply is NOT going to give meaningfull minutes to Songaila, Smith or Wallace to spell his tired 3 bigs.

Bibby is similarly worn down (by the absence of Bobby Jackson), the difference is that Bibby coasts through the beginning of games and saves his energy for the ends (Webber wears himself out, and is often useless at the end). Christie is the only King that seems to be operating at full speed right now (as compared to, for instance, January).

[Evilmav2]

I agree as well. With Fin in the midst of one of his agonizing recovery periods, I would rather see this team go large with Bradley and Fortson picking up minutes against the Vlade-Brad tag team. This would force Adelman to face some difficult decisions about playing Songaila, and it would place constant pressure on hobbled Webber as he would be forced to play huge minutes, while picking his poison in defending Dirk, Antoine, (or God help him) Jamison.

When Fin is playing poorly this team's small-ball line-up doesn't work very well, so I would rather see us resort to a plan B of overloading the Kings frontline with matchup problems by playing our centers (barring that damned waste of space Williams), and seeing Dirk, Jamison, and Walker featured for big minutes in big lineups. That's how we beat the Kings on Christmas, and that's how we can beat them today.

Of course, if Fin shows up to play in the next couple of games we will obviously look much better in our smaller lineups, but if we count on that eventuality, this season might well go down the crapper long before Finley is able to play himself back into shape.

[PubaNWO]

Nash isn't having a great series, so Walker should be used more to feed the ball to Dirk.

[Chelette]

I don't see any cmments about AW saying he played damm good....on the other hand, I heard comments even from the Kings about Najera. about how he slowdown Crywebb....my point is..AW as well as some other players, if they are not playing good, they deserve to be in the bench,,,,,,,if Crywebb's numbers on the 1st half on game 2 were totally different, I mean low score, a few rebs , etc..then...AW deserved to stay in the game, unfortunatelly for him...crywebb numbers were too high for Nellie to keep AW in the game.......
For the comment about Najera not doing good because crywebb was already tired, and not 100%. remember, Eddie also is not at 100%..he also had knee surgery..remember?
I'll say the matchup between this 2 are even.....

[dude1394]

Listening to Nellie on Randy Galloway's show today was pretty interesting.
1. He said some junk about when dirk had the ball he had the option to take it himself. To that I say bs. I think he also said that he goofed on that one.
2. Galloway talked to him about najera for about 24 minutes a game, then he said fortson should get the other 24 minutes for both of them to bang on weber. Nellie asked "what about walker". Galloway said he should be on the bench.

Nellie got pretty testy and said walk was his starting center and would play. Then gotta go. Pretty testy.

[u2sarajevo]

Originally posted by: dude1394
Nellie asked "what about walker". Galloway said he should be on the bench.

Nellie got pretty testy and said walk was his starting center and would play. Then gotta go. Pretty testy.

Hell has officially frozen over. I actually agree with Galloway.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally posted by: PubaNWO
Nash isn't having a great series, so Walker should be used more to feed the ball to Dirk.

Bullcrap. Walker is a stupid player. I'd rather have Daniels feed Nowitzki.

[OutletPass]

Totally agree with EL...

All these "Walker needs 35 min per game" or "Walker carried the team in the first 2 months" are giving me a migraine.

I'd post the stats showing that Fin and Dirk both scored more each month...or that they and Jamison shot better...or that Jamison clearly outperformed Walker on a per minute basis...but they'd be meaningless to Puba...

Not enought time anyway...I've got to go get some serious migraine medicine before reading another of Puba's love posts. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

GrndmstrC was right....Puba...you need to stop while you're still behind.

[mavs_afroman]

Originally posted by: dude1394
Listening to Nellie on Randy Galloway's show today was pretty interesting.
1. He said some junk about when dirk had the ball he had the option to take it himself. To that I say bs. I think he also said that he goofed on that one.
2. Galloway talked to him about najera for about 24 minutes a game, then he said fortson should get the other 24 minutes for both of them to bang on weber. Nellie asked "what about walker". Galloway said he should be on the bench.

Nellie got pretty testy and said walk was his starting center and would play. Then gotta go. Pretty testy.

I can't believe the way Nellie's trying to cover his butt. It's pretty pathetic. He's been running that play for years and never once has a player kept the ball instead of handing it off. I imagine that the play does have some kind of option to it but Nellie has completely miconstrued the situation. It is most likely that the player keeps th eball if the person they're SUPPOSED to pass too isn't open. I don't even know if that's an "option" as much as it is common sense. If someone isn't open don't throw it to them.

[mavsman55]

Originally posted by: PubaNWO
I think Webber just got tired cause he carried the Kings in the first half.

Yeah right... after playing just about 20-24 minutes in the 1st half without getting tired, he goes and gets rested up for about 20, and then comes back on the floor and is tired. Face it dude, you can't back up this statement cause there is no proof. It makes perfect sense. Najera is a better defender than Walker. And I don't know anything else I can say to get that through to you.

[PubaNWO]

Originally posted by: EricaLubarsky

Bullcrap. Walker is a stupid player. I'd rather have Daniels feed Nowitzki.

LOL!!!

Daniels doesn't feed anyone the ball...the guy is a black hole.

He ain't playing great either. Infact Daniels is hurting the team in second halves with his rookie mistakes and turnovers.

Walker is better at passing the ball and rebounding.....he needs to play more so the when Dirk is on fire....Daniels can play his best under the radar.

[PubaNWO]

Originally posted by: OutletPass
Totally agree with EL...

All these "Walker needs 35 min per game" or "Walker carried the team in the first 2 months" are giving me a migraine.

I'd post the stats showing that Fin and Dirk both scored more each month...or that they and Jamison shot better...or that Jamison clearly outperformed Walker on a per minute basis...but they'd be meaningless to Puba...

Not enought time anyway...I've got to go get some serious migraine medicine before reading another of Puba's love posts. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

GrndmstrC was right....Puba...you need to stop while you're still behind.

Those guys should be. That's their job.

Walk's job isn't to score anymore. But when the other guys aren't making their shots....Walker's gotta get some time to see if he can find his touch.

Things like this one never knows. Maybe Walker will catch fire while everyone else was putting up bricks. Did anyone think that Nash or Fins could play this bad??


Dirk is a one man show right now. He shouldn't be. Use what you have and use them all.

[PubaNWO]

Originally posted by: mavsman55

Yeah right... after playing just about 20-24 minutes in the 1st half without getting tired, he goes and gets rested up for about 20, and then comes back on the floor and is tired. Face it dude, you can't back up this statement cause there is no proof. It makes perfect sense. Najera is a better defender than Walker. And I don't know anything else I can say to get that through to you.

Look, I am not saying Eddie didn't play well....he did. You guys and Doug Collins gave Eddie way too much credit for making every Kings player miss their wide open shots.

Eddie did a fine job on Webber and held Webber from scoring more points....but that's what happens when you frustrate an injured player with physicality. Najera is more physical than Walker on the defensive side of the ball, I agree with that.

[Epitome22]

Najera plays better than Walker on any side of the ball. Walker is like a plague.

[mavsman55]

Originally posted by: PubaNWO

Look, I am not saying Eddie didn't play well....he did.

Originally posted by: PubaNWO

Eddie did a fine job on Webber and held Webber from scoring more points.

Originally posted by: PubaNWO

Sorry to burst your bubbles, but Eddie didn't have THAT much of an effect on Webber.

Originally posted by: PubaNWO

Eddie got lucky to be in the game when everyone was in a cold funk.

Puba, why don't any of your statements agree with each other? I've seen you make a lot of great points on this board, but this is definitely not one of them.

[dude1394]

Shot to the heart mavsman. Pretty flippy-floppy of you pub.

[MightyToine]

Originally posted by: Epitome22
Najera plays better than Walker on any side of the ball. Walker is like a plague.

You would certainly know what a "plague" is, eh Epitome22? [img]i/expressions/devil.gif[/img]

[MightyToine]

Oh and Puba,


When Erica said that she'd rather have Daniels feed the ball to Dirk, she was being SARCASTIC. She knows that Daniels is a black hole but would rather have him Shoot a billion shots instead of seeing Walker pass the ball(or at least attempt to) to Dirk.



Erica is just being MEAN...that's all. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]