04-27-2015, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sike
I don't like Ellis' game. Too limited and streaky offensively & atrocious defensively.
I'd much rather "D Up" as a team identity and bet on Wes Matthews making a full recovery. Risky and expensive (though not as expensive as it would be if he hadn't gotten injured?), but the potential offense/defense balance of a Harris, Matthews, Parsons, Aminu, Chandler line up with Dirk carrying your offensive punch off the bench is an idea I like.
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Matthews would be a nice gamble cause his D is on another level to Ellis and hes a streaky Shooter.
But without Ellis we need some kind of Slasher that can take it to the Rim.
Ellis is great at times but his Offense cant make up for his horrible D most of the time.
Harden is playing the same shitty Defense but is on another level offensively so he can make up for that.
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04-27-2015, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by GermanStandard
Matthews would be a nice gamble cause his D is on another level to Ellis and hes a streaky Shooter.
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Matthews is better than 39% from 3pt for his career. I'll take that in combination his is lock down defense.
Danny Green is better than 42% for his career. I'll take that as well.
Any hope I'd have for acquiring either player helping us become true contenders is also relying on the idea/hope that Parsons and Aminu can reach new levels given the opportunity.
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04-27-2015, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sike
Matthews is better than 39% from 3pt for his career. I'll take that in combination his is lock down defense.
Danny Green is better than 42% for his career. I'll take that as well.
Any hope I'd have for acquiring either player helping us become true contenders is also relying on the idea/hope that Parsons and Aminu can reach new levels given the opportunity.
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Either guy would be nice to have as a #2 option next to a prolific scorer who would draw doubles giving them open shots. I've not seen much to believe either (nor Parsons) could be the #1 scoring option on a playoff contender.
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04-27-2015, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk's Knee
Either guy would be nice to have as a #2 option next to a prolific scorer who would draw doubles giving them open shots. I've not seen much to believe either (nor Parsons) could be the #1 scoring option on a playoff contender.
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Exactly. But unless you want to pay Ellis (or endure more of his defense), Parsons as "the guy" might be the only realistic option the Mavs have to improve.
Even though I appreciate his heart, I've seen enough to know that I don't want to bet on Ellis' game to lead us anywhere.
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04-27-2015, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sike
Exactly. But unless you want to pay Ellis (or endure more of his defense), Parsons as "the guy" might be the only realistic option the Mavs have to improve.
Even though I appreciate his heart, I've seen enough to know that I don't want to bet on Ellis' game to lead us anywhere.
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We need more 2-way players on this team. Dirk and Monta are and will be defensive liabilities so we need a lock down defending PG if we keep Ellis. Jack has been mentioned and I could probably live with him but I don't see us going far with that backcourt.
I still think Aminu has to be a priority in off season because there seems to be an upside to his offensive game so he could become a good (or great) 2-way player.
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04-27-2015, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sike
Exactly. But unless you want to pay Ellis (or endure more of his defense), Parsons as "the guy" might be the only realistic option the Mavs have to improve.
Even though I appreciate his heart, I've seen enough to know that I don't want to bet on Ellis' game to lead us anywhere.
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It's not a bet on Ellis, you know exactly what you have and a good idea of the pieces to put around him to succeed. The bet is whether the current #3 option (Parsons) can be a #1 or if another teams #3 or #4 option can be a #1 and the answer to both is probably not. There is a strong case to be made for roster continuity, look around the west, how many playoff teams have more than 1 new starter from the prior year? We saw at the beginning of the year and in the last 2 games post Rondo what an offensive asset Ellis can be. Even if Ellis can't lead a team to a title, I'd rather see a Mavs team losing 130-120 in the playoffs than 90-85 heading to the lottery. And let's face it, the Mavs will never be a defensively dominate team while Dirk is still starting.
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04-27-2015, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk's Knee
let's face it, the Mavs will never be a defensively dominate team while Dirk is still starting.
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I agree, but I would like Dirk to be a 6th man.
I'd be interested in a starting 5 of:
Harris
Green or Matthews or Afflalo
Parsons
Aminu
Chandler
Dirk as 6th man focused on playing 24-26min per night.
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04-27-2015, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sike
I agree, but I would like Dirk to be a 6th man.
I'd be interested in a starting 5 of:
Harris
Green or Matthews or Afflalo
Parsons
Aminu
Chandler
Dirk as 6th man focused on playing 24-26min per night.
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I would be ok with that an even Barea as a starter with that defensive lineup.
The combination of Barea and any of those 3 would make up for Ellis' offense and Parsons/Aminu taking on bigger roles would make up for a good portion of Dirk's.
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04-28-2015, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sike
I agree, but I would like Dirk to be a 6th man.
I'd be interested in a starting 5 of:
Harris
Green or Matthews or Afflalo
Parsons
Aminu
Chandler
Dirk as 6th man focused on playing 24-26min per night.
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Who's your #1? IMHO, that starting 5 looks like a lottery team.
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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson
I never said Matthews would be the number 1 option? What is wrong with having Dirk take advantage of his mismatches, with CP and Matthews doing the same when they have the advantage? Good ball movement and match-ups. Don't Spurs, Hawks, Grizz, Bulls, Wiz, Raps all do this? While actually being able to defend the perimeter with Matthews as a bonus?
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Dirk will be 37 at the start of next season and you're seeing the highest level of play you can expect from him going forward. With the exception of the Spurs recent success (though I'd argue they've had a #1, and are in transition to a new #1), how many recent titles do those other teams have and what do you think their chances are this year?
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04-28-2015, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sike
I agree, but I would like Dirk to be a 6th man.
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Never
Dirk starts until he retires
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