1996 Draft - Mavs missed some great players

[Bookit]

Out of boredom I was looking over some recent drafts to see who did well and who stunk. Wow, the Mavs stunk this draft up. They drafted Samaki Walker instead of Kobe, Stojakovic, Jermaine O'neil, and Nash. Awful.

Overall, this was a pretty good draft.



1 Allen Iverson Georgetown Philadelphia
2 Marcus Camby Toronto Massachusetts
3 Shareef Abdur-Rahim Vancouver California
4 Stephon Marbury Milwaukee Georgia Tech
5 Ray Allen Minnesota Connecticut
6 Antoine Walker Boston Kentucky
7 Lorenzen Wright L.A. Clippers Memphis
8 Kerry Kittles New Jersey Villanova
9 Samaki Walker Dallas Louisville
10 Erick Dampier Indiana Mississippi State
11 Todd Fuller Golden State North Carolina State
12 Vitaly Potapenko Cleveland Wright State
13 Kobe Bryant Charlotte Lower Merion HS
14 Peja Stojakovic Sacramento Serbia-Montenegro
15 Steve Nash Phoenix Santa Clara
16 Tony Delk Charlotte Kentucky
17 Jermaine O'Neal Portland Eau Claire HS
18 John Wallace New York Syracuse
19 Walter McCarty New York Kentucky
20 Zydrunas Ilgauskas Cleveland Lithuania
21 Dontae' Jones New York Mississippi State
22 Roy Rogers Vancouver Alabama
23 Efthimios Rentzias Denver Greece
24 Derek Fisher L.A. Lakers Arkansas-Little Rock
25 Martin Muursepp Utah Estonia
26 Jerome Williams Detroit Georgetown
27 Brian Evans Orlando Indiana
28 Priest Lauderdale Atlanta Central State
29 Travis Knight Chicago Connecticut

[grndmstr_c]

That's got to be a little unusual to have a bunch of all-nba guys bunched together like that in the mid-first round of a single draft. I mean, heck, Mavs weren't the only ones who screwed up. Philly, Milwaukee, and Minny at 1, 4, and 5 were the only higher picks who got comparable talent.

[ddh33]

At least the Mavs didn't draft Todd Fuller.

Poor Todd Fuller. I can't blame the guy for making a living.

[Murphy3]

Philly sure the hell screwed up.

[Chicago JK]

Who should have Philly taken?

DDH33,
I am sure Fuller can retire just off that initial contract. I didn't like that pick when it was made. He didn't have the footspeed to play long in the NBA. In this week's SI there was an interesting section on role players in sports who have become millionaires. Their was a big article on former MLB picher Mark Clark (who had a Ranger stint before he retired). He was barely above a .500 pitcher but still made in excess of 20 million in his career. Not bad at all. He is now living in a small town and hording all that money.

[Bookit]

Originally posted by: ddh33
At least the Mavs didn't draft Todd Fuller.

Poor Todd Fuller. I can't blame the guy for making a living.

Samaki Walker couldn't have been much better. But, to be fair, I don't really remember Todd Fuller.

[MavKikiNYC]

Just guessing here, but Samaki Walker probably has more championship rings than everyone else on that list combined, factoring out Kobe and Fischer.

Was S.Walker one of Cleamons' picks?

And the Mavs now have two #1 picks from that draft on their roster.

[EricaLubarsky]

Todd Fuller was a LaFrentz-like flop of a center.

[Rod1975]

Raef is'nt a true center, and the jury is still out on him...there is talent there.

[Rod1975]

Since we're talking 20/20 hindsight here, I'mma list some first round pass-ups that the Mavs could have had.
Granted, I know the NBA draft is a crapshoot, but this is just for kicks and giggles.
I'm only listing players of note, and I'm not listing the player the Mavs selected (it's a given that the player they selected was worse than the one I'm listing)
I'm not gonna even bother with the 2nd round, because that's an even bigger crapshoot.

'83 Drexler
'84 Stockton, Barkley
'85 K. Malone...worst of all draft day blunders.....I guess the really bad suit malone was wearing on draft day scared the mavs off....
'96 listed by Bookit...man that was bad....
'97 traded away a pick that could have been McGrady...ouch
'99 traded away a pick that turned into Marion, or could have been AK47, or could have been Ron Artest...yikes
'00 Hedo, Magliore (what happened to the international scouting there?)
'01 traded away a pick that could have been Parker
'02 traded away a pick that could have been Boozer (alot of teams are kicking themselves for passing on him since he went in the second round)


All of those blunders pale in comparison to the 1978 draft. In that draft, the Indiana Pacers, with the #3 pick, chose Rick Robey from Kentucky instead of one Larry Joe Bird from Indiana's own Indiana State Sycamores. Ouch.

The Blazers, Kings, Knicks, and Warriors passed on him as well.

[madape]

Raef's career has been decimated by injuries. It's unfair to compare him to Todd Fuller, who managed to suck without any injuries at all.

[MikeB]

Bird was drafted as a 4th year junior in 78...his senior year in 79 was his big year where he led ISU to the Title game. Robey was a decent big man on a championship team and he was able to play in 79.

[Stressboy]

19 Walter McCarty New York Kentucky
20 Zydrunas Ilgauskas Cleveland Lithuania
24 Derek Fisher L.A. Lakers Arkansas-Little Rock
26 Jerome Williams Detroit Georgetown

All these guys are/were better NBA players than Walker.


Stressboy

[MikeB]

Not all of those were better...especially not McCarty.

[MightyToine]

Originally posted by: Stressboy
19 Walter McCarty New York Kentucky
20 Zydrunas Ilgauskas Cleveland Lithuania
24 Derek Fisher L.A. Lakers Arkansas-Little Rock
26 Jerome Williams Detroit Georgetown

All these guys are/were better NBA players than Walker.


Stressboy

Ummmm......NO! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img]


Get a grip, pal.


1st off, which one of those players are Power-Forwards?




THANK YOU. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]





Finally, All Walter McCarty can do is shoot threes....He dribbles worse than Finley himself....the guy was a freakin' benchwarmer-for-life on the knicks before he was "rescued" by the celtics.

Zydrunas is a very skilled CENTER(with bad knees), Walker is a very skilled POWER-FORWARD. Different positions, no basis for comparison.

Derek Fischer is a POINT-GUARD. Walker isn't. Again....no basis for comparison.

Jerome..........Williams???? I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer.

[DIRK BRASIL]

Jermaine
Dirk
Fin
Daniels
Nash

What team!!!!

[DIRK BRASIL]

Jermaine
Dirk
Fin
Daniels
Nash

What team!!!!

[Chicago JK]

Originally posted by: MightyToine

Ummmm......NO! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img]


Get a grip, pal.


1st off, which one of those players are Power-Forwards?




THANK YOU. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]





Finally, All Walter McCarty can do is shoot threes....He dribbles worse than Finley himself....the guy was a freakin' benchwarmer-for-life on the knicks before he was "rescued" by the celtics.

Zydrunas is a very skilled CENTER(with bad knees), Walker is a very skilled POWER-FORWARD. Different positions, no basis for comparison.

Derek Fischer is a POINT-GUARD. Walker isn't. Again....no basis for comparison.

Jerome..........Williams???? I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer.

I believe the discussion is around Samaki Walker not Antoine Walker.

[kg_veteran]

Originally posted by: Chicago JK

I believe the discussion is around Samaki Walker not Antoine Walker.

It is.

MT, read before talking.

[Rod1975]

[quote]
Originally posted by: MikeB
Bird was drafted as a 4th year junior in 78...his senior year in 79 was his big year where he led ISU to the Title game. Robey was a decent big man on a championship team and he was able to play in 79.[/q

Yeah I know...I left that out for dramatic effect. But the fact still remains....

[Evilmav2]

-stupidity edit-

[StvNash13]

Monday May 17, 2004 10:08 AM



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Originally posted by: MightyToine

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Originally posted by: Stressboy
19 Walter McCarty New York Kentucky
20 Zydrunas Ilgauskas Cleveland Lithuania
24 Derek Fisher L.A. Lakers Arkansas-Little Rock
26 Jerome Williams Detroit Georgetown

All these guys are/were better NBA players than Walker.


Stressboy
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Ummmm......NO!


Get a grip, pal.


1st off, which one of those players are Power-Forwards?




THANK YOU.





Finally, All Walter McCarty can do is shoot threes....He dribbles worse than Finley himself....the guy was a freakin' benchwarmer-for-life on the knicks before he was "rescued" by the celtics.

Zydrunas is a very skilled CENTER(with bad knees), Walker is a very skilled POWER-FORWARD. Different positions, no basis for comparison.

Derek Fischer is a POINT-GUARD. Walker isn't. Again....no basis for comparison.

Jerome..........Williams???? I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer.
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I believe the discussion is around Samaki Walker not Antoine Walker.

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You must feel stupid, MT

[Bayliss]

Here's the thing too:

Had we drafted better in previous drafts, we would not have been "sittin' in butter" by getting to draft/trade for Dirk.

In 98, we wouldn't have had a lottery pick.

[LRB]

Originally posted by: Bayliss
Here's the thing too:

Had we drafted better in previous drafts, we would not have been "sittin' in butter" by getting to draft/trade for Dirk.

In 98, we wouldn't have had a lottery pick.

Great point Bayliss. Once we changed one draft, it could possibly have changed all future draft positions. Who knows what would have happened if we'd selected some other player. Had we drafted Karl Malone he could possible have blown his knee out his 2nd game with the Mavs and never been the same. Or he could have been the all-star player he became with the Jazz. But if it was the latter, we would probably have won more games and had worse draft picks. We probably wouldn't have sunk low enough to be able to draft Dirk.

[Joey]

#9!!! I told ya'll Samaki Walker was the answer!!! Ya'll never listen to me!

[cheesestar]

if we had gotten dampier instead of samaki the trade section would be alot emptier.