05-22-2022, 10:25 PM
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There was never a single second that we were in this
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05-22-2022, 10:25 PM
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Still time, but they gotta get stops and hit some shots.
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05-22-2022, 10:25 PM
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LOL
Now they attack him
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05-22-2022, 10:26 PM
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Generational talents don’t play like this in these type of games. Terrible look on Luka. His stock is plummeting tonight .
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05-22-2022, 10:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004
Generational talents don’t play like this in these type of games. Terrible look on Luka. His stock is plummeting tonight .
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Not it didn’t. He’s surrounded by a bunch of role players who didn’t play their role tonight.
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05-22-2022, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BPo001
Not it didn’t. He’s surrounded by a bunch of role players who didn’t play their role tonight.
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Exactly. The mavs have failed Luka in his career this far. They should be ashamed and if I’m Luka, I’m giving this failed experiment one more season then I’m wanting out.
A talent like his can’t be wasted surrounded by a bunch of glorified role players.
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05-22-2022, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004
Exactly. The mavs have failed Luka in his career this far. They should be ashamed and if I’m Luka, I’m giving this failed experiment one more season then I’m wanting out.
A talent like his can’t be wasted surrounded by a bunch of glorified role players.
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So how does this plummet Luka’s stock like you said in the original post? And how is making it to the Western Conference Finals failing? This team far surpassed expectations for this season.
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05-22-2022, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BPo001
So how does this plummet Luka’s stock like you said in the original post? And how is making it to the Western Conference Finals failing? This team far surpassed expectations for this season.
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It doesn't. It was a moronic comment. Like I said in a previous post, we will look back in a few years when this roster of replacement level players are out the league and wonder how in the fuck did Luka lead this cast of characters to the conference finals.
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05-22-2022, 10:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004
Generational talents don’t play like this in these type of games. Terrible look on Luka. His stock is plummeting tonight .
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Lmao his first 25 playoff games are on the same level as Wilt and Jordan. No one else is in the club.
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05-22-2022, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Melonhead
Lmao his first 25 playoff games are on the same level as Wilt and Jordan. No one else is in the club.
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Yes F'n ridiculous comments from that dude. I guess Jordan just didn't have what it took until Pippen showed up. You would think an all time great like Jordan wouldn't need another HOF to finally win.
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05-22-2022, 10:26 PM
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Kidd has to get something going on offense instead of Just handing it to Luka
His defense was a nice surprise but the offense is middle school and it barely functioned in the regular season and we’re exposed hardcore in the playoffs
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05-22-2022, 10:27 PM
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That’s not a bad foul, Reggie?
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05-22-2022, 10:29 PM
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Poor Nick Wright
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05-22-2022, 10:29 PM
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Man JB needs new shoes. He’s slipped several times tonight.
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05-22-2022, 10:30 PM
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I guess you can blame me since I said I would give up being swept by GS as long as we beat Phx.
And matching up better doesn't mean you're more talented. GS is far more talented than Phx or Utah. That's the difference.
I just feel like everything was expended on the first two series. You can just kinda feel it. I personally just am not into this like I was the first two. Can't really explain why, either.
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05-22-2022, 10:30 PM
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No call? Refs trying to go home.
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05-22-2022, 10:31 PM
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I think its just coaching at this point. Need to solve their double team on Luka at thr top. I thought Luka would handle it better because of his dribbling. Mavs are scared. No swagger at all. Men showed who the boys are in this series.
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05-22-2022, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon2
I think its just coaching at this point. Need to solve their double team on Luka at thr top. I thought Luka would handle it better because of his dribbling. Mavs are scared. No swagger at all. Men showed who the boys are in this series.
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Kidd’s fault Maxi and Bullock are combined 0-15 tonight? Those 2 look scared.. scared to shoot.
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05-22-2022, 10:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon2
I think its just coaching at this point. Need to solve their double team on Luka at thr top. I thought Luka would handle it better because of his dribbling. Mavs are scared. No swagger at all. Men showed who the boys are in this series.
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Dude its about talent. We are playing 3 future hall of famers plus a high quality Wiggins. Other than Luka there is no other player on this team that can sniff an all star game let alone the HOF
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05-22-2022, 11:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Dude its about talent. We are playing 3 future hall of famers plus a high quality Wiggins. Other than Luka there is no other player on this team that can sniff an all star game let alone the HOF
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Yes. Its about talent as well. However, its not all about talent. Need to put players in a position to win. Whether its motivational or strategic.
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05-22-2022, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon2
Yes. Its about talent as well. However, its not all about talent. Need to put players in a position to win. Whether its motivational or strategic.
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It helps when guys make shots. Bullock and Maxi killed us this game. This guys were given wide open looks all game.
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05-22-2022, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BPo001
It helps when guys make shots. Bullock and Maxi killed us this game. This guys were given wide open looks all game.
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Bullock and Maxi were non factors. If Bullock is not useful defensively and he can’t hit threes, he’s basically dead weight. Powell and DFS were also non factors. Then again, all of this is a bonus after the 1st round. These are still valuable games from an experience standpoint. I hope the Mavs are observing and the coaches and players realize what they need to do next year.
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05-22-2022, 10:31 PM
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Our bigs are just straight trash. Kleber, Bull, and DFS are so streaky. Our 2020 draft really did screw us over badly.
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05-22-2022, 10:33 PM
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We’ll this season is over
I’m happy that we made it to the WCF
Retool the roster. Give us a full season with the whole squad. Hire an offensive coach.
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05-22-2022, 10:33 PM
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Can't get stops so it's pointless
BTW LUka's #'s are going to look awesome but if we are unbiased dude does need to work his defense
He got absolutely destroyed this series on the defensive end of the floor.
It seems like everyone blew by him in less than 3 seconds of man defense
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05-22-2022, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
Can't get stops so it's pointless
BTW LUka's #'s are going to look awesome but if we are unbiased dude does need to work his defense
He got absolutely destroyed this series on the defensive end of the floor.
It seems like everyone blew by him in less than 3 seconds of man defense
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Needing to rely on Luka for defense when your team is stock full of 3 and D players is ridiculous.
Maybe after we lose the series we'll discuss how he needs to pass it more too...yikes.
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05-22-2022, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Needing to rely on Luka for defense when your team is stock full of 3 and D players is ridiculous.
Maybe after we lose the series we'll discuss how he needs to pass it more too...yikes.
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IT's ok man
Luka is great but let's be real he does need to get better defensively.
Sure you can blame the other players but Luka has to be held accountable by being able to hold up for at least 4-5 seconds in man to man defense.
When you get blown by on every defensive possession within 2 seconds that hurts your team defense as a whole.
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05-22-2022, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
IT's ok man
Luka is great but let's be real he does need to get better defensively.
Sure you can blame the other players but Luka has to be held accountable by being able to hold up for at least 4-5 seconds in man to man defense.
When you get blown by on every defensive possession within 2 seconds that hurts your team defense as a whole.
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His defense is actually decent. Wasn't great this series, but it's more than acceptable overall. Coming into shape and making fts is fair criticism.
Again, the entire design of this team was surrounding him with defenders. His usually decent D wouldn't have changed the series.
Guys that didn't show made sure this wasn't a series.
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05-23-2022, 07:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas41
Can't get stops so it's pointless
BTW LUka's #'s are going to look awesome but if we are unbiased dude does need to work his defense
He got absolutely destroyed this series on the defensive end of the floor.
It seems like everyone blew by him in less than 3 seconds of man defense
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Yea, Luka has played really bad defense. Game2 first half was solid but everything before and after has been a big reason why Wiggins looks like a superstar. Luka isn't moving his feet well, getting beat off the 1v1 dribble and getting blown by on close-outs if he even does close out.
JB still keeps falling asleep defensively. He gave up a cpl O-rebs and open 3s just by not paying attention to his own man. This keeps happening. Those 2 guys had to be a lot better defensively in order to win this series.
Bullock and DFS are what they are. Solid defenders that can knock down wide open 3s and really nothing else. No ball skills.
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05-22-2022, 10:33 PM
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Kleber and Powell lost us this series.
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05-22-2022, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Kleber and Powell lost us this series.
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That's a combined 20 million dollars tied up into the Center tandem.
Oh well it was a good season without question
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05-22-2022, 10:33 PM
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Dagger.
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05-22-2022, 10:34 PM
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Crazy how in a game that never went above 12, it was decided from the tip-off.
Mavs never had a single chance to win.
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05-22-2022, 10:35 PM
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Fuck the fans leaving
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05-22-2022, 10:35 PM
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Fuck the fans leaving
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Why stay? Team looks like they quit too.
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05-22-2022, 10:37 PM
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Why stay? Team looks like they quit too.
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Outmatched is not the same as quit. What a garbage take
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05-22-2022, 10:48 PM
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Outmatched is not the same as quit. What a garbage take
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That’s fair. I shouldn’t say they quit. Just saw them get out hustled and out played all game. Tough to watch. Gave up too many offensive rebounds. This team needs a big man in the worst way.
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05-22-2022, 10:37 PM
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Team needs a FT coach
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05-22-2022, 10:37 PM
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Must be nice for Golden State to have so many clutch shooters. This team is just outgunned
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05-22-2022, 10:52 PM
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And it's silly fans going off that the AAC wasn't lout enough. Of course not. No MFFL can afford 800 avg a ticket. That's just stupid money. So of course the Arena is full of highland park/uptown people that have never been to a game before.
Cuban has himself to blame for that. The way those tickets were sold was absolutely stupid.
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