Chris Paul open to trade to Contender.

[41mvp]

Shaqile O'neal-4 NBA CHampions
Dwight Howard-0 NBA Champion

In my opinion KG and Dirk are even.KG is good defender and he play well in offensive.
Dirk only play well in offensive his defense is hopeless.But I will Dirk.I love Dallas Mavericks
I don't live in Boston!!!Rondo is better

[Mav Addict]

Originally Posted by 41mvp

Shaqile O'neal-4 NBA CHampions
Dwight Howard-0 NBA Champion

In my opinion KG and Dirk are even.KG is good defender and he play well in offensive.
Dirk only play well in offensive his defense is hopeless.But I will Dirk.I love Dallas Mavericks
I don't live in Boston!!!Rondo is better

I stopped reading right there...

[41mvp]

Sorry!!!Dirk Nowitzki is the best PF in NBA!!!Sorry for all!!!

[SMC0007]

point accepted

[wilmtalk]

Originally Posted by mac222b

he had the meniscus removed rather than repaired which enabled him to come back for a non-existent playoff push. strange choice. i too would be worried about giving up Damp/Roddy/Butler and the 1st rd. pick we're about to buy for a guy who may may have lingering knee issues. it's alot to give up

even though you have trouble varifing those facts, I have a bad feeling about this trade. Paul game relies a lot on his quickness and speed so any problems with his knee's would really effect his value. Paul is also expendable because of the Rookie Collison. We have a rookie of our own. Why don't we give him the same opportunity that Collison got before we pull the trigger on a trade involving Roddy. I agree the trade for Paul would be too expensive for a point which we might not even need. None of those trades that were supposed to get us over the top have worked out in the past but only created more problems which compounded the amount of needs for the future.

[Zki41]

We can always trade CP3 if it doesn't work out (highly unlikely)... and if you compare what we gave up for trading CP3 and what we may get in return, I'm sure we come out on top anyway.

Also, I think if we do get Okafor, we have to sign and trade Haywood. Shaq wants to come to Dallas ... and we can get him on the cheap, where as Haywood would probably ask for more than what he is worth, which means we can use him two fill our need at the two guard. Haywood + expirings for Joe Johnson? Atlanta gets JJ out of conference, gets a center so that Horford can be at PF and smith at PF, and they start Jamal Crawford.

[saclare]

fadge.

[41mvp]

powiedz mi jak jest po angielsku PASOWAĆ???

[MaVs 41 BaLler]

Holy Crap when'd the new kid show up, im like tottally missing out on all the fun.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by MaVs 41 BaLler

Holy Crap when'd the new kid show up, im like tottally missing out on all the fun.

he was our 1st rd. draft choice last June. he's from Guadeloupe, France and... oh, you meant 41MVP

[Kidd Karma]

Chris Paul wants out now.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67683/

Chris Paul may want a trade out of New Orleans, according to a source.

William Wesley began trying to create movement in terms of a trade involving Wesley last week.



Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...#ixzz0sSOLixHM

[Mav Addict]

Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Chris Paul wants out now.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67683/

Wow, Wesley is trying to trade himself

[Dirkenstien]

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...l-pursuing-cp3

By: Chad Ford

Last week, Chris Paul trade talk hit a frenzy before the Hornets went public and stated they had no intention of trading their star point guard.

This week, a league source told me that the Blazers actually made some progress toward landing Paul.

According to the source, the Blazers got close to a deal with the Hornets last week that would’ve sent Andre Miller, Joel Przybilla, Nicolas Batum, Jerryd Bayless and the 22nd pick to New Orelans for Paul and Emeka Okafor before Hornets GM Jeff Bower pulled out of the deal claiming that their owner wasn’t ready to trade Paul.

The Hornets no longer need to trade Paul for financial reasons. The trade they made on draft night with the Oklahoma City Thunder got them out of the luxury tax, so that’s no longer the issue.

The issue is whether Paul is now unhappy enough to force a trade. The Blazers believe he is and will continue to pursue a Paul deal. They won't be alone.

The Magic also have been pursuing Paul and Okafor, offering expiring contracts and Jameer Nelson. And there are two other teams that could offer the Hornets even more.

Both the Knicks and Nets are planning to step up pressure on the Hornets if they don't land LeBron. Both teams have tons of cap space and can offer massive cap relief to the Hornets (to the tune of $100 million) if they take Paul and Okafor off their hands. The Knicks could also offer Danilo Gallinari. The Nets could offer Derrick Favors and Devin Harris.

Holy cow. We need to get back on the phone with New Orleans ASAP ... especially with Paul now saying he wants out.

[Underdog]

DUST/Butler/DoJo for Paul/Okafor?


>sigh<

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by Dirkenstien

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...l-pursuing-cp3




Holy cow. We need to get back on the phone with New Orleans ASAP ... especially with Paul now saying he wants out.

Damp, Roddy, Dojo and two first round picks for Paul and Okafor. Done. I don't even know if it works and I don't care at this point.

Gosh that would be fantastic.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by jthig32

Damp, Roddy, Dojo and two first round picks for Paul and Okafor. Done. I don't even know if it works and I don't care at this point.

Gosh that would be fantastic.

I'd do that in a heartbeat...

As far as I'm concerned, Paul is the biggest available talent behind LeBron and Wade (better than Joe Johnson, anyway...)

[Dirkenstien]

Originally Posted by Underdog

I'd do that in a heartbeat...

As far as I'm concerned, Paul is the biggest available talent behind LeBron and Wade (better than Joe Johnson, anyway...)

Yep it's a no brainer. (Crosses fingers)

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by jthig32

Damp, Roddy, Dojo and two first round picks for Paul and Okafor. Done. I don't even know if it works and I don't care at this point.

Gosh that would be fantastic.

Add some salary-filler like Stevenson/Carroll/Najera to satisfy the CBA, then get on the phone with Ray Allen and try to convince him to take the MLE.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Add some salary-filler like Stevenson/Carroll/Najera to satisfy the CBA, then get on the phone with Ray Allen and try to convince him to take the MLE.

Hell you could play Kidd at SG for all I care. Certainly he would for stretches.

And you still have Butler to keep or trade.

My head is swimming right now. Why can't this happen?

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by jthig32

My head is swimming right now. Why can't this happen?

Because we're going to get LeBron. Only possible explanation.

[chumdawg]

The silver lining for the Mavs so far, assuming we don't land one of the huge names, is that no one in the West seems to be getting any goodies either. Were Portland to nab Paul, that would just absolutely suck for us. They are probably getting ready to be a beast anyway. Nabbing Paul would instantly put them at the very top of the West.

[sike]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Because we're going to get LeBron. Only possible explanation.

This is obviously your greatest post ever.

[mavs413]

Paul, Okafor, Posey for Roddy, Damp, Carroll, Stevenson, and Najera works + picks.

It saves New Orleans a TON of cash, 100 mil total over the next 5 seasons.

10 player rotation:
CP3/Kidd
Butler/JET/Dojo
Marion/Butler/Posey
Dirk/Marion
Haywood/Okafor

[sike]

Originally Posted by mavs413

Paul, Okafor, Posey for Roddy, Damp, Carroll, Stevenson, and Najera works + picks.

It saves New Orleans a TON of cash, 100 mil total over the next 5 seasons.

10 player rotation:
CP3/Kidd
Butler/JET/Dojo
Marion/Butler/Posey
Dirk/Marion
Haywood/Okafor

[LonghornDub]

From Chris Paul's perspective, the problem with coming to the Mavs is that he would no longer be able to play against the Mavs. That'll hurt his stats significantly.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

From Chris Paul's perspective, the problem with coming to the Mavs is that he would no longer be able to play against the Mavs. That'll hurt his stats significantly.

Double whammy, he'll have to go up against Collison 4 times a year. Nice that we are hammering away at them to get Paul.

[Zki41]

Although Haywood is superior in my option, getting Okafor would turn Haywood into a sign and trade trip worth the inevitable $10 million someone will throw at him.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by mavs413

Paul, Okafor, Posey for Roddy, Damp, Carroll, Stevenson, and Najera works + picks.

It saves New Orleans a TON of cash, 100 mil total over the next 5 seasons.

10 player rotation:
CP3/Kidd
Butler/JET/Dojo
Marion/Butler/Posey
Dirk/Marion
Haywood/Okafor

You might even be able to create 2 trades out of that I stick them with 6 million bucks, I'm sure Shinn would love that as a going a way gift.

[tcat075]

Here's my HSO.

Roddy will be better than Chris Paul, and less injury prone.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by tcat075

Here's my HSO.

Roddy will be better than Chris Paul, and less injury prone.

If he ever gets to that level (which is highly unlikely) it won't be while Dirk is still in his prime.

Now, the flip side is that if he ever gets to that level, he might be able to win even with an in-decline Dirk.

But given the opportunity, I would absolutely ship Roddy out for Chris Paul. Expecting Roddy to be Chris Paul is a tad crazy.

[tcat075]

Originally Posted by jthig32

If he ever gets to that level (which is highly unlikely) it won't be while Dirk is still in his prime.

Now, the flip side is that if he ever gets to that level, he might be able to win even with an in-decline Dirk.

But given the opportunity, I would absolutely ship Roddy out for Chris Paul. Expecting Roddy to be Chris Paul is a tad crazy.

Yeah, I know. If someone else had said this, I would likely have replied saying the exact same things you just said, just slightly less articulately. I just posted the HSO to draw someone offsides (isn't that their purpose?).

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by jthig32

If he ever gets to that level (which is highly unlikely) it won't be while Dirk is still in his prime.

Now, the flip side is that if he ever gets to that level, he might be able to win even with an in-decline Dirk.

But given the opportunity, I would absolutely ship Roddy out for Chris Paul. Expecting Roddy to be Chris Paul is a tad crazy.

Why? I don't think it's that unlikely. I never thought CP would be as good as he is now, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Roddy got to that level or at least damn close.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

Why? I don't think it's that unlikely. I never thought CP would be as good as he is now, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Roddy got to that level or at least damn close.

Chris Paul's career, to this point, is HOF level. He hasn't played long enough to actually be considered a HOFer, but if he continued his past level of play for an extended career he would go down as a top ten PG of all time.

Expecting Roddy to match that production is a bit nuts.

[Underdog]

Has Chris Paul even peaked yet?

I guarantee his game would kick up a notch or two playing next to someone like Dirk...

[LonghornDub]

If Roddy ever becomes even 2/3 as good as CP3, I will be overjoyed.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Chris Paul has attitude with a winner's mentality. He is the type of guy who would be perfect under Carlisle. Seems like another too good to be true rumor though. You might as well not have a franchise if you shed players like Paul.

[quietsavant]

New Hornets brass already facing crisis with Paul
July 21, 2010
By Ken Berger
CBSSports.com Senior Writer


Welcome to the hottest seat in the NBA, Dell Demps. All you have to do is persuade Chris Paul to stay in New Orleans -- an uphill battle that begins now.

When Paul was quoted a few weeks ago as saying he'd be open to a trade if the Hornets aren't committed to building a championship team, it was only a small hint as to the size of the chasm that exists between the franchise and its cornerstone player. Paul, in fact, has put into motion an aggressive exit strategy that will accelerate in the coming weeks, and his clear intention is to be traded before the start of the 2010-11 season, a person with direct knowledge of his plans told CBSSports.com Wednesday.

"He wants out," said the person, who has been briefed on Paul's strategy but spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss it publicly. "He wants to play with another superstar. He wants to follow LeBron's model of teaming up with other great players."

Paul's list of preferred destinations consists of the Knicks, Magic and Lakers, and members of his inner circle already have sent word to the Hornets of his desire to be traded to one of those teams, sources say. If Paul has his way, he's played his last game in a Hornets jersey.

"He feels like they haven't put the right pieces together," said the person familiar with the star point guard's plans.

Paul, a three-time All-Star, still has two years before he can become a free agent. But his dissatisfaction with the Hornets' downward spiral, coupled with the coup pulled off by James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami has only accelerated his desire to seek a trade. Sources within the NBA say members of Paul's camp have told them recently, "He's not going to start the season in New Orleans."

In the past year, Paul has publicly expressed mild and measured frustration with the direction of the Hornets, who have spiraled out of contention since they capped a 56-win season in 2007-08 with a loss to the Spurs in the Western Conference semifinals. That was followed by a 49-win season that ended with an embarrassing first-round loss to the Nuggets, including a disgraceful 58-point home loss in Game 4. Bryon Scott was fired nine games into the 2009-10 season, and that only seemed to exacerbate Paul's concerns about his future in New Orleans.

Early last season, days before Scott was fired, Paul admitted he was "envious, very envious" of his friends and peers -- James, Wade and Carmelo Anthony -- who had enjoyed far more team success in the early stages of their careers.

"Those guys have been where I want to get to," Paul said. "This is my fifth year in the league and I'm not trying to wait until I'm an old veteran in this league trying to win a championship. We're trying to win now. Whatever we have to do to win, we've got to do now."

The Hornets missed the playoffs for the first time in three years under interim coach Jeff Bower, who was reinstated to his GM post with the hiring of coach Monty Williams and then fired last week. Enter Demps, a respected personnel man who played an important support role in the Spurs' decade of success. Will the duo of Williams and Demps, both having ascended to top NBA jobs for the first time, be enough to get Paul to backtrack from his desire to be traded?

Williams and Hornets president Hugh Weber both told CBSSports.com in the past week that they plan to sit down face-to-face with Paul to sell him on the team's new direction. Paul won't go public with his trade request -- if he did, he'd be subject to a fine under NBA rules -- but those with knowledge of his plans believe his desire to pair up with another superstar (or two) has gained too much momentum to stop.


In late June, Paul, 25, spent several days in Akron, Ohio, with James, who was busy orchestrating his own exit strategy from Cleveland. The two friends and superstars picked each other's brains, with each persuading the other to make significant changes in their branding strategies. For Paul, it was a big step to persuade James to join the social networking phenomenon that is Twitter. For James' part, he finally persuaded Paul to join his Cleveland-based marketing company, LRMR.

Paul's decision to sign with LRMR, headed by James' close friend and advisor, Maverick Carter, was only the first step in his exit plan from New Orleans. Paul officially severed his representation agreement with Octagon earlier this month and will soon officially join the influential stable of clients represented by Creative Artists Agency.

With a stranglehold on the top free-agent talent, CAA dictated the terms, pace and outcome of the monumental free-agent class of 2010. CAA clients James and Bosh agreed to join forces with fellow CAA client Wade in Miami, forming a rare triumvirate through the leverage and friendship of players as opposed to the whim of management.

Paul will be represented by CAA agent Leon Rose, who also represents James and potential 2011 free agents Anthony and Tony Parker. Miami's Big Three haven't even run a layup drill, and yet CAA already has the foundation in place to run the table in the free-agent summer of 2011, as well. But with a lockout looming and superstars Paul, Anthony, and to a lesser degree Parker uneasy about their current situations, those plans already are in motion.

Paul's former representatives at Octagon, Jeff Austin and Lance Young, did not respond to phone calls seeking comment, nor did Rose. William Wesley, CAA's behind-the-scenes operative known as "World Wide Wes," who is now a coaching agent with CAA, declined to comment. Paul's strategy has yet to reach the team level in terms of proposals exchanged, sources say. For one thing, Paul has been mired in the 15-day waiting period to officially hire a new agent after severing ties with Octagon. Also, it has been his desire to be forthright with ownership and management in discussing the matter. Williams, a first-year head coach, was hired last month and plans to meet with Paul extensively in the coming weeks to explain his vision. Demps hasn't even completed his first day on the job yet.

Paul's inclusion of the Magic on his list dovetails with CBSSports.com's report June 30 that star center Dwight Howard has asked Orlando management to pursue a trade for Paul -- although Magic GM Otis Smith said by phone Wednesday that he is unaware of such a plan. The team that has most aggressively positioned itself to reap the benefits of CAA's latest power nexus is the Knicks, who struck out in their pursuit of this summer's Big Three but perhaps didn't whiff permanently.

Team president Donnie Walsh's first step was signing power forward Amar'e Stoudemire to a five-year, $99.9 million deal. The move wasn't successful in swaying James or Wade, but it represents the first piece of a strategy designed to land Paul, Parker or Anthony -- or perhaps, even two of them. According to sources familiar with the Knicks' strategy, part of the reason for orchestrating the sign-and-trade for David Lee -- which yielded young talents Anthony Randolph and Kelenna Azubuike from Golden State -- was to stock the roster with attractive assets that could be used to acquire such marquee players if the opportunities presented themselves.

Since they are not free agents at the same time, sources say Paul, Anthony and Parker won't have the same power that Miami's Big Three wielded this summer. Given that he has two years left on his contract before he can exercise a player option, Paul's desire for a trade will be a test of his leverage. It will also be a test of the Hornets' new duo of decision-makers, Williams and Demps, who will have to determine when Paul's value will be maximized -- if they agree to trade him at all.

Parker already has publicly stated his intention to pass on an extension and become a free agent next summer, while Anthony thus far balked at signing the Nuggets' three-year, $65 million extension offer. With a lockout looming after the season, friends of Anthony believe he is seriously torn between cashing in on what's left of max money as we know it and following his buddy, James, in trying to orchestrate a surefire championship celebration. Earlier this month, empowered by his time spent in Ohio with James, Paul was reported to have toasted the idea of forming "our own Big Three" with Stoudemire and Anthony during Anthony's wedding in New York. That comment, never publicly corroborated by Paul, is directly in line with what sources say has become his overriding strategy for the next step in his career. Call it the Miami Model, the South Beach Effect, or whatever you want. It's the new normal for young NBA superstars looking for a new home and a better chance to win.

"Players want to follow in those footsteps," an NBA front office source said. "They all want to do that. Everyone got excited about it, and it opened up the players' imaginations as to what they could do."

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/1...isis-with-paul

[twistaeffect2004]

I wouldn't mind seeing him go to the Knicks.

If he gets traded to the Lakers though, we riot. I'd be pretty pissed.

[quietsavant]

Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004

I wouldn't mind seeing him go to the Knicks.

If he gets traded to the Lakers though, we riot. I'd be pretty pissed.

That would be the definitive stamp that in the NBA: The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

On a side note, any team that trades their superstar, in a gasol type trade again, to the Lakers, has to really evaluated themself as an organization.

[sefant77]

Hornets laugh about his list.

If they trade him then together with Okafor and Posey.

You need 27 million in salary for that. Probably they want 20+ in expirings and talents on rookie contracts.

Knicks, Magic and Lakers just dont have this.