It's a little quiet around here...

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Honestly, I'm not sure that's the official banner. I know they were asking casually for suggestions and that one popped up relatively quickly...so again, that could be the banner, but it's just one of many hanging in the office.

Flacolaco, it's at their administrative office. LOB isn't there all of the time, but a certain someone's MVP trophy can usually be seen chilling at a cubicle.

So you're saying there are multiple versions of Mavs world championship banner at this place?

I, like Flaco, would like to visit this place.

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by jthig32

So you're saying there are multiple versions of Mavs world championship banner at this place?

I, like Flaco, would like to visit this place.

Not necessarily all of them are world championship banners, some are kind of simple but neat displays of their progression in the playoffs and etc.

Another reason I wouldn't buy that as the legit banner: No "2010-" and it doesn't say Dallas Mavericks.

lol

[Kidd Karma]

Didn't think this needed a thread for itself:

http://sports.gather.com/viewArticle...81474979988759

Golden State will need to make some changes before the upcoming NBA season, as the team is loaded at the guard position, and there is not enough minutes to go around. The Warriors tried to trade Monta Ellis just before the draft, but the team never pulled the trigger on a deal, and that's leading to speculation of Stephen Curry being traded instead.

The latest rumor has Curry and center Andris Biedrins being sent to the Dallas Mavericks and the Warriors receiving Caron Butler and Rodrigue Beaubois.

Dallas needs a young point guard as Jason Kidd and Jason Terry are both in the twilight of their careers. Biedrins has failed to live up to his early career, and a change of scenery could be the answer. Butler would give the Warriors some much-needed scoring from the forward position and a veteran with plenty of playoff experience. Beaubois would also give Golden State some depth on the bench and a good fill-in when needed at point guard.

Both teams could benefit from this deal, and the Warriors need some experience as they try to move into a playoff contending team. Dallas won the NBA title last season, but with the age of the team, youth is needed if they want to stay in contention in the upcoming years.

[LonghornDub]

Not sure I buy that rumor, but I'd certainly have no problems seeing Steph in a Mavs uniform.

[Kante]

Hmm, i love to have Caron back so no thanks!

[fluid.forty.one]

If we resign Chandler, we'd be sort of overloaded at the C spot with Biedrins.

[CadBane]

Steph & Beans for Caron & Roddy!? That's a no brainer and then some. The last thing I'd be worried about is being too deep at center...

[BGMaverick9]

Chicken quesadillas...

[Rick41]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

If we resign Chandler, we'd be sort of overloaded at the C spot with Biedrins.

It could be that the FO is preparing for alternatives should Chandler sign elsewhere.

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Chicken quesadillas...

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by CadBane

Steph & Beans for Caron & Roddy!? That's a no brainer and then some. The last thing I'd be worried about is being too deep at center...

I'm not saying that it's not a great trade, I was just thinking that we'd probably end up making some sort of other move or we're anticipating that Chandler isn't coming back.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

If we resign Chandler, we'd be sort of overloaded at the C spot with Biedrins.

Chandler/Haywood/Biedrins gives you a whole lot of trade options (D-Will, Dwight?), since big men are highly coveted in this league and we'd have 3 good ones, but Haywood/Biedrins would still be a solid combo if Chandler walked...

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

[kenny_817]

Excellent trade...I'd personally drive their asses to Cali myself

[JeffViggiano]

this could be a nice trade

[Fragism]

Golden State trading Curry? I doubt it.

[jthig32]

So it would appear that sports.gather.com is a site like BleacherReport. I have another site to block from my Google searches now.

[GhostFace]

Can anyone explain to me why this is a good trade?

I understand our need to improve our center position, but Eddy Curry..?

I live in NYC.. and I saw his work ethic with the Knicks, it was not pretty at all. Two seasons in a row he showed up out of shape and unable to contribute all season long. Him and Zach Randolph was suppose to makes the Knicks better again, but that went no where since both struggled. Either way, after seeing his attitude regarding work performance in NY, I'd rather not see him in a Mav's uniform. One could make the argument that if he comes to the Mav's, Cuban and co. would not put up with any of that nonsense he has done in the past, but honestly, I'd rather not risk that chance at all.

[Rick41]

Originally Posted by GhostFace

Can anyone explain to me why this is a good trade?

I understand our need to improve our center position, but Eddy Curry..?

I live in NYC.. and I saw his work ethic with the Knicks, it was not pretty at all. Two seasons in a row he showed up out of shape and unable to contribute all season long. Him and Zach Randolph was suppose to makes the Knicks better again, but that went no where since both struggled. Either way, after seeing his attitude regarding work performance in NY, I'd rather not see him in a Mav's uniform. One could make the argument that if he comes to the Mav's, Cuban and co. would not put up with any of that nonsense he has done in the past, but honestly, I'd rather not risk that chance at all.

Golden State will need to make some changes before the upcoming NBA season, as the team is loaded at the guard position, and there is not enough minutes to go around. The Warriors tried to trade Monta Ellis just before the draft, but the team never pulled the trigger on a deal, and that's leading to speculation of Stephen Curry being traded instead.

The latest rumor has Curry and center Andris Biedrins being sent to the Dallas Mavericks and the Warriors receiving Caron Butler and Rodrigue Beaubois.

Who the hell said Eddy Curry?

[Kidd Karma]

Biedrins is villified in GSW land. When he landed the new 6 year deal running through 2014, assuming he picks up the option, it was like he got hurt all the time, thereafter. When the guy does play, he is a banger. But at this point, 50 games a year at 23 a night, way too much money....but if it lands you Curry, it's automatic.

[bernardos70]

Either way I'm against Eddy Curry with a Mavs uniform. Just sayin'... in case that somehow gets offered. While at that, no to any trades involving Yao Ming.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by GhostFace

Can anyone explain to me why this is a good trade?

I understand our need to improve our center position, but Eddy Curry..?

Biedrins is the center who would be coming to Dallas in that very hypothetical trade - Stephen Curry is a guard...

[Skywalker]

Originally Posted by GhostFace

Can anyone explain to me why this is a good trade?

I understand our need to improve our center position, but Eddy Curry..?

I live in NYC.. and I saw his work ethic with the Knicks, it was not pretty at all. Two seasons in a row he showed up out of shape and unable to contribute all season long. Him and Zach Randolph was suppose to makes the Knicks better again, but that went no where since both struggled. Either way, after seeing his attitude regarding work performance in NY, I'd rather not see him in a Mav's uniform. One could make the argument that if he comes to the Mav's, Cuban and co. would not put up with any of that nonsense he has done in the past, but honestly, I'd rather not risk that chance at all.

Not sure if srs

[GhostFace]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Biedrins is the center who would be coming to Dallas in that very hypothetical trade - Stephen Curry is a guard...

Whew. My bad. I saw Curry and immediately thought Eddy Curry... almost had a heart attack.

[bernardos70]

Originally Posted by GhostFace

Whew. My bad. I saw Curry and immediately thought Eddy Curry... almost had a heart attack.

That's funny because I'm quite sure Eddy Curry almost had a heart attack just now too. As he was leaving Five Guys.

[OneLove22]

We areeee zeeee Champions! We are zeeeee champions!!!! OF THE WORLDDDD!!!!

[OneLove22]

All this Chandler walking talk.... I don't like it!

Chandler will stay.

[GhostFace]

Originally Posted by bernardos70

That's funny because I'm quite sure Eddy Curry almost had a heart attack just now too. As he was leaving Five Guys.

ROFL. Well done sir, well done.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Biedrins is the center who would be coming to Dallas in that very hypothetical trade - Stephen Curry is a guard...

You are severely underestimating Stephen Curry!

[41mvp]

Originally Posted by OneLove22

Chandler will stay.

everyone know what Chandler did for this tema.We need him for next few years.So he must stay with us

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by bernardos70

That's funny because I'm quite sure Eddy Curry almost had a heart attack just now too. As he was leaving Five Guys.

Well done.

[nowhereman]

But would Biedrins be happy backing up Dwight Howard?

[FINtastic]

I would jizz in my pants if we somehow landed Stephen Curry.

That might very well be my favorite non-Mav right now. Just plays the game beautifully.

[Maringa]

Ok...so it's September 2nd...theoretically, training camp was to start 30 days from now...I don't see any major movements in the NBA lockout discussions...Wasn't it about 30 days before the NFL preseason started when they all got together and figured their stuff out?

[dude1394]

Amazing to think that bball was supposed to start the first of october...I'm still reveling in glory... No wonder repeating is so dang hard.

[Kidd Karma]

http://sheridanhoops.com/2011/09/05/...theyre-saying/

I'd say get rid of the MLE and LLE, eliminate the tools that put teams over the cap.

NEW YORK — Here’s the dirty little secret about the NBA lockout, despite what both sides — the owners and the players — would have you believe:

They are a lot closer to a settlement than most people realize.

I know this because I talk regularly with a bunch of important people who tell me important things, and I am going to explain why I believe a settlement will be reached that will not only save the season, but also enable the NBA to have an “all is forgiven” honeymoon period (similar to what the NFL just experienced following its labor settlement) in which the frenzy of free agents signings, trades, training camps and exhibition games will make everyone forget all of the doomsday talk they’ve been hearing all summer.

First, some background. If you only listened to union director Billy Hunter, as NBA players were doing in late August while Hunter was touring the country giving status updates to his locked-out membership, you’d think the sides are currently $8 billion apart in their stagnant negotiations. That is the party line from the union.

But it is not entirely true.

Yes, under the 10-year collective bargaining agreement the owners have proposed, the gap is indeed somewhere in the area of $7-8 billion range.

But if you look at the six-year deal the players have proposed, which includes $500 million less in annual revenue (than what they would have received under the old deal) over the six upcoming seasons, the simple math tells a different story:

Over those six years, the difference in proposed revenues that would go to the players adds up to $2.97 billion.

That is still a significant amount of money, but it is nowhere near as significant as what is being put out there publicly.

Moreover, if you look at years 1, 2 and 3 of the proposals, the sides are a total of $870 million apart. (The players are asking for $2.17 billion in salaries and benefits in 2011-12, $2.33 billion in ’12-13, and $2.42 billion in ’13-14. The owners are offering a flat $2 billion per year.)

Or to put it another way, in a business that brought in $4.2 billion in revenues last season, the sides are only $170 million apart for next season.

Does that seem like an insurmountable difference that would justify the cancellation of the season? No — especially given the fact that neither side has said it has put its “last and best” offer on the table.

The gap in what each side is seeking financially in Years 4, 5 and 6 is more significant, and what the owners are asking for in Years 7, 8, 9 and 10 is not completely germane to the equation right now because the players have not indicated they would be willing to do a deal for longer than six years, and history shows the sides traditionally have negotiated six-year labor agreements.

Owners and players are scheduled to reconvene Wednesday or Thursday to set in motion a series of meetings that will determine whether the lockout is settled in time to save a full 82-game season. If the owners come to the table with an offer that promises more money than the flatlined $2 billion in Years 1-7 that they have been proposing, they’ll be getting somewhere. So that’s the first thing to watch for.

Another major sticking point, for now, is the owner’s desire to transition from the current soft cap system to a hard cap system in Year 3 of the new CBA, which would necessitate an unprecedented giveback, perhaps through an unlimited escrow tax, perhaps from an across-the-board salary cut for every NBA player, that the players would simply not accept. (If Hunter put that proposal forward to his membership for a vote, it would be rejected, he would be out of a job, and the sides would go back to square one.)

Also, a transition to a hard team cap in Year 3 would almost certainly necessitate the breakup of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami. You think the NBA really wants that?

So the Year 3 transition that the league is seeking is actually a red herring. But if there were to be a transition to a hard cap (or a harder team cap through a more punitive luxury tax system) in Year 5 or Year 6, it would allow teams a half-decade of long-term financial planning to get ready for the new harder-cap system. This is one of the areas where it seems the owners have no choice but to soften their current stance.

But here is the key thing, the two most important words to keep in mind as this lockout plays itself out: Aggregate dollars.

Right now, the owners have offered the players slightly more than $12 billion in total compensation over the next six seasons. The players are seeking just under $15 billion.

Somewhere in between $12 and $15 billion lies the settlement number, and they’ll get there one way or another. Once that happens, it’ll take only a few days to tweak other aspects of the CBA – pensions, the anti-drug policy, the draft, the age limit, group licensing — that have barely even been touched upon in negotiating sessions thus far. It would then take approximately two weeks to put the agreement into writing, and then the business would reopen.

So what does that mean in terms of a deadline to save the current 82-game schedule?

Here is a projected timeline that pushes things about as far as you can push them:

Oct. 1: An agreement is reached on aggregate dollars.

Oct. 4: All remaining issues are settled.

Oct. 5-19: The agreement is put into writing.

Oct. 20: Free agency opens and players already under contract are allowed to report to their teams.

Oct. 21-31: Training camps are held, and each team plays two exhibition games.

Nov. 1: The season opens on time, with three games: Bulls-Mavericks and Thunder-Lakers in a TNT doubleheader, along with Rockets-Jazz.

I have been saying all along that there is too much to be lost by having a work stoppage that extends into the fall and forces the cancellation of games. And with the NBA coming off a fantastic season in which attendance, ratings and merchandise sales all skyrocketed, there is took much risk of punishing the product to go too far down the bumpy road the owners have chosen to take.

At the end of the day, they have too much to gain by making a deal that gives them a significantly larger share of the pie that what they were getting under the old deal. And lastly, all of the principle players in the negotiations are reasonable and rational men. They are not interested in destroying what they’ve built up over the past several seasons, especially in 2010-11.

So a settlement is coming, and I am here to tell you that it’ll likely come a lot sooner than most everyone else has been predicting. It’ll take a lot of back-and-forth over the remainder of September, but it can certainly get done when both sides can identify the middle ground and move there simultaneously.

[Mavsfan2thedeath]

Originally Posted by kenny_817

Excellent trade...I'd personally drive their asses to Cali myself

But how will they ever sit down again--much less play basketball--with detached asses?

Thank you, I'll be here all week....

[Flacolaco]

So...I was at the AAC last weekend and I spoke to some of the employees and the operations people. The mood is pretty grim regarding potential loss of NBA season and all the $$$$ people are going to lose in would be wages. Not a good vibe around there right now.

[GermanDunk]

How are the chances, that a ~50 games season can start sometime ?

[LSMF]

Man, I want to see our Champs play...