With the #3 pick (!) in the 2018 draft, the Mavs get Luka Doncic - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

BPo001 · 06-22-2018, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

I'm still in shock. Mavs had their eyes on the prize and make an aggressive move up to go get him, without giving up too much. Would not have been possible had the Hawks not had their hearts set on Trae Young, but I still give the Mavs mad props. Good day for the franchise.

They gave up next year first with pretty low protections. You don't think that's giving up a lot? I'm not saying it was a bad move, but giving up a future 1st when you're in a rebuild is pretty substantial iMO.

tap2390 · 06-22-2018, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

They gave up next year first with pretty low protections. You don't think that's giving up a lot? I'm not saying it was a bad move, but giving up a future 1st when you're in a rebuild is pretty substantial iMO.

I agree that the 2019 pick shouldn’t be discounted. I think, however, the way the league is headed, to get the most skilled wing to come along in arguably a decade at the cost of a pick in the 10-20 range in a weak draft is absolutely a steal. People had this class pegged as a generational class for a while, and then Bagley reclassified and made it even more talent-rich. Doncic goes number one overall next year. Doncic goes number one overall last year. The combination of talent and the draft order just so happened to make this possible for us this year, and we pounced.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-22-2018, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

They gave up next year first with pretty low protections. You don't think that's giving up a lot? I'm not saying it was a bad move, but giving up a future 1st when you're in a rebuild is pretty substantial iMO.

I completely agree, but at the same time I really don't want to start looking forward to the draft again in November. It's months of waiting for a single name to be mentioned at a podium while you watch your team tank and lose the entire season.

Now we can just focus on winning.

Me.B · 06-22-2018, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

They gave up next year first with pretty low protections. You don't think that's giving up a lot? I'm not saying it was a bad move, but giving up a future 1st when you're in a rebuild is pretty substantial iMO.

Next year’s draft is really weak, maybe only 4-5 guys with starting potential. If you’re going to give up a 1st round pick next year is the year to do it. The Mavs just need to do their best to win so that it’s as low a pick as possible.

BPo001 · 06-23-2018, 08:22 AM

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Next year’s draft is really weak, maybe only 4-5 guys with starting potential. If you’re going to give up a 1st round pick next year is the year to do it. The Mavs just need to do their best to win so that it’s as low a pick as possible.

Regardless how "weak" a draft class is considered I'd be willing to bet there are 3-4 all stars in each one. Meaning if you have good scouts and you let them do their job you should be able to find good players.

tap2390 · 06-23-2018, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Regardless how "weak" a draft class is considered I'd be willing to bet there are 3-4 all stars in each one. Meaning if you have good scouts and you let them do their job you should be able to find good players.

Much easier said than done...

http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

Dtownsfinest · 06-23-2018, 04:04 PM

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Regardless how "weak" a draft class is considered I'd be willing to bet there are 3-4 all stars in each one. Meaning if you have good scouts and you let them do their job you should be able to find good players.

Yeah I hate the whole "it's a weak class" mantra that's being used. Your job is to build your team and do it right now with cheap young players. Barrett and Teddish can come right in and help this organization. You have to find the right guys.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-23-2018, 04:39 PM

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Yeah I hate the whole "it's a weak class" mantra that's being used. Your job is to build your team and do it right now with cheap young players. Barrett and Teddish can come right in and help this organization. You have to find the right guys.

Well it's a silly defense to the fact that we gave up a lot because the lottery screwed us over. We should have had the 3rd pick to begin with.

NeedlesKane · 06-23-2018, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Well it's a silly defense to the fact that we gave up a lot because the lottery screwed us over. We should have had the 3rd pick to begin with.

Know what I hate about the lottery? We don't get to see the process. It should be like the Texas Lottery. I feel like it's rigged. Otherwise, we'd see it.

Dtownsfinest · 06-23-2018, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Well it's a silly defense to the fact that we gave up a lot because the lottery screwed us over. We should have had the 3rd pick to begin with.

Yeah I'm a little pissed about that. We had to give up a extra first just to be where we should've been.

trukop · 06-25-2018, 03:33 AM

Hi guys,

You've got a new fan from Spain (Europe). I'm a Real Madrid fan and I'm really happy because Dallas signed Doncic. Best team for him, great city and wonderful fans.

I've seen Luka Doncic since he was playing for Real Madrid young academy when he was a little boy (12 years old). He is amazing, guys. I would like to talk about a few topics:

-In Europe we measure without shoes. He is 6'7. He is 2'01 tall (no shoes). But, he is 19 years old (02/26/1999) and last two years he grew up 1 inch. It's possible that he will grow up a little more.
-In Europe he is an all-around combo player. He can play 1-4 posititions. His best poition is: SG on defense. PG on attack.
-Signature movement. Step back. This movement is an ankle killer. It's very similar than James Harden one.
-Strenths. IQ, rebounds, personality, all-around, pick&roll, easy to get stadistics, passing and face the ring. He has one of the highest IQ that I've ever seen in my life. He sees the basket very easy. He is a huge rebounder man (in Europe one of the best).
-Weaknesses. Defense on small and speed PGs. He is very big and he can't defense guys like Isiaa Thomas for example. However, Dallas is perfect for him in order to hide this weakness. He must to improve his large shoot. He is a very good shooting man, however, he only has 31% three point successful. Is very low but, I have to write that he is a very good shooter on stop feet position. His stadistics go down due to the fact that he uses so much the step back and crazy shoots. In Spain, we call it "mandarina" (tangerine) LOL.
-Issues to improve. Shoot percentage and athletic. I'm sure that Mavericks will give him the best personal trainer and in a short time he we'll have muscles over the muscles

-Player to compare. I've read on USA forums about Luka Doncic seems Lebron James. I don't agree. In my opinion he seems Larry Bird.

Finally, I give you a couple pretty videos.

Is Luka Doncic the new Larry Bird?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RupuylGUy0&t=1s

Luka Donc's highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-t9j71jbp0

Remenber guys. Euroleague + Spanish ACB are >>>>>>>>> than NCAA. And Luka Doncis is Euroleague MVP regular season and MVP F4. And MVP ACB regular season. He won 2017 Europen cup (against Pau Gasol, Porziņģis, Gobert and so on). He won Euroleague and Spainsh ACB on 2018. Third guy to reach a triple-double on ACB history. 2º highest history PIR on Euroleague regular season It's crazy!!!!!

Underdog · 06-25-2018, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by trukop

-Player to compare. I've read on USA forums about Luka Doncic seems Lebron James. I don't agree. In my opinion he seems Larry Bird.

LOL, I can live with that...

Welcome to the board!

trukop · 06-25-2018, 06:58 AM

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Welcome trukop!
Great first post and thank you for the info.

Thanks!!!

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LOL, I can live with that...

Welcome to the board!

The comparasion is due to "the bird" was an amazing all-around player with the biggest IQ and a huge personality. Doncic is the same case. However...ths shoot range and % is not the same, obviusly. But I'm sure that Doncic will improve his 3% percentage to around 40% in the next seasons.

Underdog · 06-25-2018, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by trukop

The comparasion is due to "the bird" was an amazing all-around player with the biggest IQ and a huge personality. Doncic is the same case. However...ths shoot range and % is not the same, obviusly. But I'm sure that Doncic will improve his 3% percentage to around 40% in the next seasons.

Yeah, hopefully Luka can put in some time with Dirk's shooting coach, Holger Geschwindner.