2020-2021 NBA Season thread - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-20-2021, 09:56 PM

If the Bucks win this, then I think that's a great example for Luka to stay. Stick with your team baby!

JustJay · 07-20-2021, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

If the Bucks win this, then I think that's a great example for Luka to stay. Stick with your team baby!

I don't get this, the Bucks were knocking on the door for several years they had Middleton a legit #2 maybe a #1 on some teams then they add Holiday. That's legit, the Mavs have none of that right now. Hopefully one day they do then I would think it's an easy decision to stay. But if it remains Luka on an island it's not the same situation as the Bucks at all.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-21-2021, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJay

I don't get this, the Bucks were knocking on the door for several years they had Middleton a legit #2 maybe a #1 on some teams then they add Holiday. That's legit, the Mavs have none of that right now. Hopefully one day they do then I would think it's an easy decision to stay. But if it remains Luka on an island it's not the same situation as the Bucks at all.

Middlteton and Holiday aren't superstars though. If the Mavs can't get talent like that, then sure, Luka leaves. Don't think those type of players are unobtainable though. Guess we'll see what Nico does.

Dtownsfinest · 07-21-2021, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Middlteton and Holiday aren't superstars though. If the Mavs can't get talent like that, then sure, Luka leaves. Don't think those type of players are unobtainable though. Guess we'll see what Nico does.

I agree. I think a big part of it is that they're underrated. Especially Holiday. He's one of the best two way players in the league. Can D it up as good as he can play offense. That's going to be tougher to find but much easier to find then hoping a superstar comes to us.

JustJay · 07-21-2021, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Middlteton and Holiday aren't superstars though. If the Mavs can't get talent like that, then sure, Luka leaves. Don't think those type of players are unobtainable though. Guess we'll see what Nico does.

They're not superstars but they're stars. Everyone thinks of a super team with 3 superstars like the Nets those don't happen very often. But just having a superstar and two stars makes you a contender. I wouldn't just assume we're going to get that because that's not easy to obtain either.

My point was if I'm Luka I'm not just going to say "Giannis won and stayed on his team, I'm good I'm staying here no matter what" no, the Mavericks front office have a job to do and if they do it stay if not at some point he's gone and as we've seen with players there comes a point where you don't even blame the player for wanting out. AD wasn't going to win in New Orleans, Dame although older isn't winning in Portland. People blamed KD for joining GS but they didn't blame him for leaving Russ so much. So to me it's not just up to Luka if Luka stays, it's up the Mavs get the right players around him.

Dtownsfinest · 07-21-2021, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJay

They're not superstars but they're stars. Everyone thinks of a super team with 3 superstars like the Nets those don't happen very often. But just having a superstar and two stars makes you a contender. I wouldn't just assume we're going to get that because that's not easy to obtain either.

My point was if I'm Luka I'm not just going to say "Giannis won and stayed on his team, I'm good I'm staying here no matter what" no, the Mavericks front office have a job to do and if they do it stay if not at some point he's gone and as we've seen with players there comes a point where you don't even blame the player for wanting out. AD wasn't going to win in New Orleans, Dame although older isn't winning in Portland. People blamed KD for joining GS but they didn't blame him for leaving Russ so much. So to me it's not just up to Luka if Luka stays, it's up the Mavs get the right players around him.

They aren't "stars" stop the bullshit. Y'all want to try and change the narrative now because it goes against what y'all have said it takes to win in this league. Y'all said that it takes Two superstars and all this other bullshit. At the end of the day Kawhi Leonard was the only star in Toronto when he won and Giannis is the only star in Milwaukee.....let's cut the bullshit. Give that man his flowers he won his ring and did it without joining another star.

saclare · 07-21-2021, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

They aren't "stars" stop the bullshit. Y'all want to try and change the narrative now because it goes against what y'all have said it takes to win in this league. Y'all said that it takes Two superstars and all this other bullshit. At the end of the day Kawhi Leonard was the only star in Toronto when he won and Giannis is the only star in Milwaukee.....let's cut the bullshit. Give that man his flowers he won his ring and did it without joining another star.

Huh? You started with saying they weren't superstars, but they are absolutely stars. By the very definition they are all-stars, Middleton twice and Jrue once with several all NBA defensive nods.

Why are we getting all defensive over simple terminology. Fact is, Giannis had a couple stars around him playing in their prime. The Mavs were able to get KP but he has been an injured star which doesn't help Luka much if you can't stay on the court, or even be a part of an offseason.

Dtownsfinest · 07-21-2021, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saclare

Huh? You started with saying they weren't superstars, but they are absolutely stars. By the very definition they are all-stars, Middleton twice and Jrue once with several all NBA defensive nods.

Why are we getting all defensive over simple terminology. Fact is, Giannis had a couple stars around him playing in their prime. The Mavs were able to get KP but he has been an injured star which doesn't help Luka much if you can't stay on the court, or even be a part of an offseason.

Because no one considered them stars even a month ago… now they are stars to fit a narrative. They are great players..no doubt. I mean can we sit here and say Jrue is a star when he couldn’t hit a layup to save his life? Or Middleton with his disappearing acts? I think they are all solid players. But let’s don’t change the narrative is all I’m saying.

Dtownsfinest · 07-21-2021, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJay

I don't get this, the Bucks were knocking on the door for several years they had Middleton a legit #2 maybe a #1 on some teams then they add Holiday. That's legit, the Mavs have none of that right now. Hopefully one day they do then I would think it's an easy decision to stay. But if it remains Luka on an island it's not the same situation as the Bucks at all.

Middleton is a #1 on NO team let's stop this....I'd even argue he's not even a #2 on a championship team....he's just not consistent enough. He goes in these spurts where he looks like the best player on the court but when its the game on the line that's Giannis.

Guys like Middleotn and True Holiday were out there for the Mavs to get if they wanted too. Brook Lopez too. Bobby Portis......Bucks built a great team, from a great culture and with a great superstar.

JustJay · 07-21-2021, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Middleton is a #1 on NO team let's stop this....I'd even argue he's not even a #2 on a championship team....he's just not consistent enough. He goes in these spurts where he looks like the best player on the court but when its the game on the line that's Giannis.

Guys like Middleotn and True Holiday were out there for the Mavs to get if they wanted too. Brook Lopez too. Bobby Portis......Bucks built a great team, from a great culture and with a great superstar.

You are the most garbage poster here. Middleton is not #2 on a championship team? Then wtf did we just see are you saying he's not the 2nd best player on his team when it's widely accepted that he is? Get the f out of here you're not who you're portraying to be you're a guy laughing behind his computer you're trolling I see it because no one can be this stupid over and over. Middleton hit the clutch shot in OT in Game 7 vs Nets AND last night in the last minute to seal the deal. He is the Bucks closer. He is legit and unless you just don't know basketball you know this because again you're trolling.

Middleton averages about 20 ppg with 41% from 3 over 50% from 2, 5 assists a game for this last season and similar numbers the last 4 seasons and great defense you do no research and just use your eye test probably needing glasses or better glasses and say "nah that guy isn't very good" You're a joke. If he didn't have Giannis taking the ball a lot (which is justified) he could average 25 on another team and be the #1, not a contender but several teams that are in the lottery I guarantee would love to have him and make him #1. He is a multi time all star there is nothing anyone with any sense would say bad about him and here you are.

Middleton was never available he said he and Giannis were different and not leaving to other teams and they didn't. Like over half the shit you say you make up that's why I know you're trolling I'm on to you troll. You probably think we could have traded Boban for him.

And it's JRUE Holiday, again stupid.

Dtownsfinest · 07-21-2021, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJay

You are the most garbage poster here. Middleton is not #2 on a championship team? Then wtf did we just see are you saying he's not the 2nd best player on his team when it's widely accepted that he is? Get the f out of here you're not who you're portraying to be you're a guy laughing behind his computer you're trolling I see it because no one can be this stupid over and over. Middleton hit the clutch shot in OT in Game 7 vs Nets AND last night in the last minute to seal the deal. He is the Bucks closer. He is legit and unless you just don't know basketball you know this because again you're trolling.

Middleton averages about 20 ppg with 41% from 3 over 50% from 2, 5 assists a game for this last season and similar numbers the last 4 seasons and great defense you do no research and just use your eye test probably needing glasses or better glasses and say "nah that guy isn't very good" You're a joke.

Middleton was never available he said he and Giannis were different and not leaving to other teams and they didn't. Like over half the shit you say you make up that's why I know you're trolling I'm on to you troll.

And it's JRUE Holiday, again stupid.

You moron....the Bucks didn't draft Middleton...they got him in a deal for Brandon Jennings......that's my point about him being "available". You're too busy being a smart ass to get it.

Spellcheck changed it to "TRUE" grammar police...I'll be sure to edit it for your though.

Secondly, "JRUE" is their 2nd best player. No way around it. He was the missing piece. He was the one locking up Booker and Paul on the perimeter and giving them fits. Middleton was not their #2. And quite frankly, if we're being honest.....if the Nets had either Kyrie or Harden healthy I'm not even sure the Bucks pass them with how they were playing at that point......

You're a funny guy getting all emotional over NBA games and opinions lol.....creating burner accounts to address me....cursing and calling me out of my name......its somewhat funny and sad at the same time. You must live a beautiful life.

Now that I think about it....aren't you the poster who was in your feelings and told me you were blocking me? What happened? You got bored because no one was paying you any mind from the outlandish shit you say? So you really should be thanking me for even paying you any mind. You're welcome.