Gasol traded to Lakers - Page 3 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

wmbwinn · 02-01-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nowitness41

Do you think will force Dallas into doing something or will they just stay the way they are?

I'm sure Dallas would offer a similar package that LA gave up for a player. But, barring a similar "abuse me please" offer from a team as desperate as the Griz, then the Mavs "are happy with our team." (Avery).

MFFL · 02-01-2008, 06:07 PM

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DirkFTW · 02-01-2008, 06:23 PM

I don't know if I share Avery's sentiment.

LonghornDub · 02-01-2008, 06:23 PM

This is really upsetting. Yet another team the Mavs have to seriously contend with to win a title during Dirk's window.

I wasn't for trading for Kidd if it involved Harris, but this may sway me. The Mavs may need to sell out to win a title before Dirk is done.

MFFL · 02-01-2008, 06:38 PM

In another confusing move.

>>>Additionally, a Grizzlies source told The Commercial Appeal of Memphis that forward Stromile Swift has been traded to the New Jersey Nets for center Jason Collins. According to the newspaper, the deal had been discussed for the past week and is expected to be finalized on Monday.

Collins has another year on his contract while Swift expires this year. And Collins makes more money per year.

Why did the Grizz GM make this trade?

Dirkadirkastan · 02-01-2008, 06:39 PM

If playoffs started today, it would be #3 Mavericks vs. #6 Lakers.

wmbwinn · 02-01-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

In another confusing move.

>>>Additionally, a Grizzlies source told The Commercial Appeal of Memphis that forward Stromile Swift has been traded to the New Jersey Nets for center Jason Collins. According to the newspaper, the deal had been discussed for the past week and is expected to be finalized on Monday.

Collins has another year on his contract while Swift expires this year. And Collins makes more money per year.

Why did the Grizz GM make this trade?

upset with Swift. Want to move him. Need a center...

wmbwinn · 02-01-2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

If playoffs started today, it would be #3 Mavericks vs. #6 Lakers.

Gasol doesn't scare me much. We have been able to stop him cold with either Diop (especially Diop) or Dampier.

Kobe will always score points.

Playing Bynum with Gasol will force Dallas to adjust its whole game though. Who is going to guard Bynum and who guards Gasol?

Windmill360 · 02-01-2008, 06:47 PM

Maybe we should start booing Juwan hardcore in hopes that some sucker GM will give us their all star for him.

Usually Lurkin · 02-01-2008, 06:53 PM

If they play Odom and Gasol together, then any team with a halfway decent pair of forwards will score 100 points, just from those 2 positions.

MFFL · 02-01-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wmbwinn

upset with Swift. Want to move him. Need a center...

Swift is expiring. Let him walk. Use the money to sign a free agent.

Collins can barely play backup minutes so he can't fill much of a need.

skylive321 · 02-01-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wmbwinn

Gasol doesn't scare me much. We have been able to stop him cold with either Diop (especially Diop) or Dampier.

Kobe will always score points.

Playing Bynum with Gasol will force Dallas to adjust its whole game though. Who is going to guard Bynum and who guards Gasol?

are you serious. we stopped him ya. but he was on a scrappy team and still showed flashes of being outstanding. playing with kobe only makes him that much better and offers them a tandem attack. Like GAC says, watch the damn game. its the broad picture that scares me, not the individual player. think, double double bynum, double double odom, dbl-dbl gasol, dbl-dbl kobe, and a descent point guard. they are about the most complete team in the west now.

dude1394 · 02-01-2008, 07:05 PM

Good god, Donnie just got pawned and beat like a stepchild. Gasol would look great as a maverick imo, we'd finally have a center who could score and we wouldn't have to go small to do it. Yuck...

Donnie better be shining up his resume because if he didn't see this one coming, he's out of the loop.

Dirkadirkastan · 02-01-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Good god, Donnie just got pawned and beat like a stepchild. Gasol would look great as a maverick imo, we'd finally have a center who could score and we wouldn't have to go small to do it. Yuck...

Donnie better be shining up his resume because if he didn't see this one coming, he's out of the loop.

I would have loved to see the shaggy European duo as our front court.

jthig32 · 02-01-2008, 07:54 PM

Sorry Dude, Gasol doesn't fit on this team. He doesn't play any defense. You absolutely could not play Dirk/Pau at your 4/5 and expect to compete defensively.

This was a hell of a steal though.

Allow me to echo the thoughts of KG and a few others. Mike Miller as the starting 2 would be fantastic.

bernardos70 · 02-01-2008, 07:57 PM

Can't explain how pissed off I am. G*ddamn.

With that said, I still would rather have Mike Miller than anyone else on the Grizzlies roster, even Gasol, simply because Mike is that much better a fit. Even though he looks quite queer. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

endrity · 02-01-2008, 07:58 PM

Even w/out Gasol tonight the Lakers are looking really good against the Raps. W/Gasol and Bynum this team will be really good. However neither Gasol nor Bynum is really mobile, and small undersized but quick PFs will give them trouble (West, Amare).

skylive321 · 02-01-2008, 08:05 PM

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Can't explain how pissed off I am. G*ddamn.

With that said, I still would rather have Mike Miller than anyone else on the Grizzlies roster, even Gasol, simply because Mike is that much better a fit. Even though he looks quite queer. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

i here u loud and clear.

Janett_Reno · 02-01-2008, 08:06 PM

Very nice pick up for the Lakers. This should move them up some in the west. Who knows just how far they could go. Never know in the wild wild west.

bobatundi · 02-01-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by skylive321

This is the new face of dumbass

i have tears in my eyes that is so funny.

RePLAY · 02-01-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by endrity

Even w/out Gasol tonight the Lakers are looking really good against the Raps. W/Gasol and Bynum this team will be really good. However neither Gasol nor Bynum is really mobile, and small undersized but quick PFs will give them trouble (West, Amare).

Amare is scared of Bynum.

RePLAY · 02-01-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Janett_Reno

Very nice pick up for the Lakers. This should move them up some in the west. Who knows just how far they could go. Never know in the wild wild west.

I think they were #1 when Bynum got injured. Correct me if im wrong.

nashtymavsfan13 · 02-01-2008, 08:19 PM

Wow. Just wow.

Windmill360 · 02-01-2008, 08:22 PM

Kwame will be waived and then join the Lakers again.

WayOutWest · 02-01-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RePLAY

I think they were #1 when Bynum got injured. Correct me if im wrong.

The Lakers were #1 for a day, same day Bynum got injured I believe. It was sweet but short lived for me.

Dortmund · 02-01-2008, 08:43 PM

Seriously....

KG & Ray Allen ---> Celtics
Gasol ---> LA

Kind of odd how the two dynasties came back this year without giving up much at all. Really shocks me. I wonder if Stern had something to do with this to boost NBA ratings again.

mary · 02-01-2008, 08:43 PM

This is perfectly craptacular news to end a perfectly craptacular day.

Memphis should ban themselves.

mary · 02-01-2008, 08:44 PM

Oh hell yeah we should go after Mike Miller.

Windmill360 · 02-01-2008, 08:46 PM

Trade Tariq Abdul Wahad for Miller.

mavsman · 02-01-2008, 08:49 PM

Giving Memphis draft rights to Marc Gasol for Pau is equal to offering the Mavs draft rights to Dirk's sister plus Downsyndromboy Nowitzki in exchange for Dirk. What a rape.

bobatundi · 02-01-2008, 09:10 PM

so could we have traded Moe Ager, KVH fake contract, and two late firsts for Gasol? and why the HELL didn't we do that?

DOMINATOR · 02-01-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dortmund

Kind of odd how the two dynasties came back this year without giving up much at all. Really shocks me. I wonder if Stern had something to do with this to boost NBA ratings again.

yeah, this conspiracy theory is going around.

at least the celtics gave up more than the lakers. Al Jefferson is a very very solid player.

WayOutWest · 02-01-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DOMINATOR

yeah, this conspiracy theory is going around.

So I guess when Kupchak gave up Shaq to Miami he did it because Stern told him "trust me, it will all work out in the end".

I think all the 20/20 hindsight franchises and their fans have nothing better to do. Seriously, did some GM's fall asleep at the wheel? Did Beeyotch Cupcake finally do some homework? There are stories around the net about the current Grizz owners are trying to sell the franchise so they are trying to make them as financially attractive as possible. Clearing a buch of salaries off the books is one major way to accomplish that task. Sounds like the Lakers took advantage of a desperate situation in Memphis much like Miami took advantage of the desperate situation with the Lakers/Shaq a few years back.

skylive321 · 02-01-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bobatundi

so could we have traded Moe Ager, KVH fake contract, and two late firsts for Gasol? and why the HELL didn't we do that?

because, and it hurts me to say it, but i can't resist "We like our team".

dude1394 · 02-01-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Sorry Dude, Gasol doesn't fit on this team. He doesn't play any defense. You absolutely could not play Dirk/Pau at your 4/5 and expect to compete defensively.

This was a hell of a steal though.

Allow me to echo the thoughts of KG and a few others. Mike Miller as the starting 2 would be fantastic.

Bullhonkey...Dirk didn't play any defense either until avery got ahold of him. Defense is about want to. We'll start to see gasol play defense for the lakers I expect.

kg_veteran · 02-01-2008, 10:21 PM

I have seen an awful lot of doomsday talk (here and elsewhere). I don't buy it. Somebody asked who our center (Damp/Diop) was going to guard when we play the Lakers. My question is, who's going to guard Dirk? Bynum or Gasol?

They might have the edge at C and SG, but I think we've still got them at PF, SF, and PG.

Just my two cents.

dude1394 · 02-01-2008, 10:37 PM

I guess the thing that gets me isn't so much that I'm more afraid of the lakers than I was before. What torques my butt is that I'm sure that the mavs would have loved to have had Gasol, loved to have had him.

But didn't sniff the opportunity to get him. It does NOT engender confidence in Donnie.

kg_veteran · 02-01-2008, 10:39 PM

You're making an assumption, but based upon what? What were the Mavs going to offer to beat what the Lakers gave? (NOTE: I'm not saying the Grizz didn't get hosed, because they did.)

Dortmund · 02-01-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bobatundi

so could we have traded Moe Ager, KVH fake contract, and two late firsts for Gasol? and why the HELL didn't we do that?

no we couldnt.. lakers traded a very good young pg. kind of like us including harris but not quiet as much as harris.

dude1394 · 02-01-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

You're making an assumption, but based upon what? What were the Mavs going to offer to beat what the Lakers gave? (NOTE: I'm not saying the Grizz didn't get hosed, because they did.)

Of course I'm making an assumption. Well I don't know, maybe diop, two rounders, huge cap relief with kvh and 3million. I know when I heard Avery today, he was shocked at how little it took to get Gasol, I expect Donnie was also. I mean I could make it up, but I can see diop+firsts+kvh or pull in a third team. I think they were completely blindsided, obviously my opinion.

Donnie doesn't get the luxury of being shocked at someones value.