Mavs Free Agency Rumors: Hassan Whiteside (NOPE)

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

Keep in mind the Lakers want Whiteside too.

If the Lakers and Mavs are both offering him the max, then it gets interesting, because it doesn't look like either team has real clear advantage. Mavs are better right now, but Lakers have more young talent and upside. Lakers of course have the "glamor" factor and the allure of Hollywood and the bigger market, but is Whiteside the kind of guy who even cares about that? His #1 priority is getting paid, but I wonder what his second and third priorities are.

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

If the Lakers and Mavs are both offering him the max, then it gets interesting, because it doesn't look like either team has real clear advantage. Mavs are better right now, but Lakers have more young talent and upside. Lakers of course have the "glamor" factor and the allure of Hollywood and the bigger market, but is Whiteside the kind of guy who even cares about that? His #1 priority is getting paid, but I wonder what his second and third priorities are.

Maybe his 2nd priority is to make sure he gets paid again in three or four years. Remember, the dude is allready 27, so he has pretty much just two fat contracts for his entire career. The one he signs now then and then another one at age 30/31.

I think part of the pitch should be also how every center absolutly shines in RC PnR heavy offense with Dirk and Barea, pushing his stats etc (Chandler, Wright etc) and how their production dropped after they switched teams.

With another team, he gets paid but maybe he becomes just a glorified roleplayer with average touches and stats, in Dallas this wont happen and here he has the hightest chances to cash in again after three years (give him a player option in the 4th year, so he can sign his 2nd contract at age 30).

Add this to the Jordan pitch and we should have solid chances. The Mavs and their offense gives him the best chances to keep his role/relevance/numbers up to get paid again.

No one thought we have a good shot with Jordan and we had it. So i think we have a solid chance with Whiteside.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by sefant77

Maybe his 2nd priority is to make sure he gets paid again in three or four years. Remember, the dude is allready 27, so he has pretty much just two fat contracts for his entire career. The one he signs now then and then another one at age 30/31.

I think part of the pitch should be also how every center absolutly shines in RC PnR heavy offense with Dirk and Barea, pushing his stats etc (Chandler, Wright etc) and how their production dropped after they switched teams.

With another team, he gets paid but maybe he becomes just a glorified roleplayer with average touches and stats, in Dallas this wont happen and here he has the hightest chances to cash in again after three years (give him a player option in the 4th year, so he can sign his 2nd contract at age 30).

Add this to the Jordan pitch and we should have solid chances. The Mavs and their offense gives him the best chances to keep his role/relevance/numbers up to get paid again.

No one thought we have a good shot with Jordan and we had it. So i think we have a solid chance with Whiteside.

Yeah, the same pitch they used for DeAndre makes sense since he'd essentially be playing the same role anyway... We really need to get cornerstones in the center and point guard positions, then build from there -- Whiteside is exactly the kind of player that can lure free agents next summer.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by sefant77

No one thought we have a good shot with Jordan and we had it. So i think we have a solid chance with Whiteside.

Honestly I think Whiteside seems far more realistic than Jordan ever did. To get Jordan, we had to convince him to leave a borderline title contender. Jordan also clearly cared about winning and his role on the team as opposed to just getting paid.

[tap2390]

Deleted bc fair point below

[DirkFTW]

Originally Posted by tap2390

And using f***** to describe a player is what? Incredible insight? GTFOH.

Originally Posted by tap2390

I think the only think Jordan cared about was buttf*cking Blake Griffin.

Insightful.

[BigDog63]

Heard a caller from Miami cautioning on Whiteside, about how he was going to get paid then his production would plummet. Wouldn't be the first time and should certainly ring familiar to the Mavs. Plenty of centers out there who had a good year, got paid, then disappeared.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by BigDog63

Heard a caller from Miami cautioning on Whiteside, about how he was going to get paid then his production would plummet. Wouldn't be the first time and should certainly ring familiar to the Mavs. Plenty of centers out there who had a good year, got paid, then disappeared.

That's always a possibility with any free agent. I'd only be concerned if he has displayed that kind of lack of effort or work ethic in the past.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by BigDog63

Heard a caller from Miami cautioning on Whiteside, about how he was going to get paid then his production would plummet. Wouldn't be the first time and should certainly ring familiar to the Mavs. Plenty of centers out there who had a good year, got paid, then disappeared.

Wouldn't surprise me if that happened but at this point we have no choice. We have to take a chance on star who may underachieve but fills a much needed void because we simply can't keep surrounding Dirk with average to below average nice guys who slightly overachieve. The latter is a recipe for perpetual mediocrity.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

If the Lakers and Mavs are both offering him the max, then it gets interesting, because it doesn't look like either team has real clear advantage. Mavs are better right now, but Lakers have more young talent and upside. Lakers of course have the "glamor" factor and the allure of Hollywood and the bigger market, but is Whiteside the kind of guy who even cares about that? His #1 priority is getting paid, but I wonder what his second and third priorities are.

As a young guy, LA or Dallas, Im choosing LA. Unless I grew up obsessed with Dirk Nowitzki and/or Sixth Floor Museum

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

As a young guy, LA or Dallas, Im choosing LA. Unless I grew up obsessed with Dirk Nowitzki and/or Sixth Floor Museum

What difference does it make which city he plays in when he spends most of his time in a gym? It's not like he won't be able to afford multiple houses in different cities once he gets maxed out.

Plus, he's supposed to be looking for a job, not a party... If sunny beaches and dance clubs are a priority for him, then he should probably just stay in Miami -- it's not like LA is a better place to get lit... It's just more expensive.

[yahyes]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

As a young guy, LA or Dallas, Im choosing LA. Unless I grew up obsessed with Dirk Nowitzki and/or Sixth Floor Museum

Dallas is a sports town. The Cowboys, Mavs, Stars, and Rangers athletes are very popular here. But it's not all kardashians and beverly hills like LA.