Playoff lineups

[grndmstr_c]

After each game I'll be calculating the +/- for all the Mavs lineups and tracking how their effectiveness varies as a function of who they're matching up against, and posting what I find in this thread. It's exceedingly complex and at this stage considerably less informative than a casual viewing of the game, but hopefully as the series goes on the picture it paints will become more meaningful, at least for the more common lineups and matchups. Listed immediately following each row of astericks is one of Mavs lineups used in the game today followed by the amount of time that lineup was on the floor, and their raw +/-. Below that their floor time numbers are broken down according to what lineup(s) they were up against. Statmongers enjoy.

at Sacramento, 4/18, L 105-116
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Nash, Quis, Fin, Dirk, Toine - 14:46, (-9)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Divac - 13:39, (-8)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:07, (-1)
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Quis, Fin, JHo, AJ, Dirk - 6:04, (+3)
.....vs. Peeler, Chrstie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :33, (-1)
.....vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Sonagaila, Miller - 1:49, (+2)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Sonagaila, Miller - :27, (+2)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Webb, Miller - :44, (+2)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Webb, Miller - 2:00, (0)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Webb, Songaila - :31, (-2)
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Nash, Quis, Fin, Dirk, Najera - 5:15, (+3)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Vlade - 2:03, (+4)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 3:12, (-1)
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Nash, Quis, Fin, AJ, Toine - 3:35, (-3)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb - :18, (+1)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Webb, Miller - :49, (-3)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 2:28, (-1)
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Nash, Quis, JHo, Dirk, Toine - 3:10, (+4)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb - :52, (+2)
.....vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb, Vlade - :41, (+2)
.....vs. Christie, Wallace, Peja, Webb, Vlade - 1:37, (0)
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Quis, JHo, AJ, Dirk, Toine - 2:55, (-4)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Miller - 1:02, (0)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb - 1:53, (-4)
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Nash, Quis, Fin, JHo, Dirk - 2:24, (-1)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb - 2:24, (-1)
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Nash, Quis, Fin, AJ, Dirk - 2:11, (+3)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :11, (+2)
.....vs. Peeler, Chrstie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:15, (+1)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb - :45, (0)
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Nash, Fin, JHo, Dirk, Najera - 1:54, (-2)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:47, (-2)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Miller - :07, (0)
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Nash, JHo, AJ, Dirk, Toine - 1:41, (-3)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Miller - 1:41, (-3)
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Nash, Fin, JHo, Dirk, Toine - 1:01, (-2)
.....vs. Christie, Wallace, Peja, Webb, Vlade - 1:01, (-2)
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JHo, AJ, Najera, Toine, Shawn - :48, (+4)
.....vs. Peeler, Smith, Buford, Songaila, Wallace - :48, (+4)
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Nash, Quis, JHo, AJ, Dirk - :39, (-3)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb - :39, (-3)
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Nash, JHo, AJ, Dirk, Najera - :37, (-3)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Miller - :37, (-3)
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Nash, Quis, Fin, JHo, AJ - :31, (+4)
.....vs. Christie, Wallace, Peja, Songaila, Vlade - :31, (+4)
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Nash, Fin, JHo, AJ, Shawn - :29, (-2)
.....vs. Christie, Wallace, Peja, Webb, Vlade - :29, (-2)

[OutletPass]

Damn, GrndmsrrC...

You are greatness....(Are you John Nash ? )

[bernardos70]

Is ESPN Hiring? If so, I got their man. My hat is off to ya, grndmstrC

[grndmstr_c]

Here are the stats for Game 2, at Sacramento, 4/20, L 79-83.

Nash, Quis, Fin, Dirk, Toine - 14:00, (-10)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Vlade - 11:08, (-6)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Chrstie, Songaila, Miller - :14, (+2)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Songaila, Miller - 1:12, (+1)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:26, (-7)

Nash, Quis, Fin, Dirk, Eddie - 8:31, (+5)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Vlade - 2:19, (+7)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 6:12 (-2)

Nash, Fin, JHo, Dirk, Eddie - 5:44, (0)
.....vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb, Vlade - :34, (+2)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb - 3:32, (+3)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:38, (-5)

Nash, Quis, JHo, Dirk, Toine - 4:03, (-1)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Vlade - 1:51, (0)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:52, (-2)
.....vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :20, (+1)

Nash, Fin, AJ, Dirk, Toine - 3:02, (+1)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Webb, Miller - :46, (+3)
.....vs. Bibby Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 2:16, (-2)

Nash, JHo, AJ, Dirk, Eddie - 2:52, (+3)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Sonagaila, Vlade - :52, (+3)
.....vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Songaila, Vlade - 2:00, (0)

Nash, Quis, Fin, AJ, Dirk - 2:38, (+1)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Webb, Songaila - 2:32, (+1)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Songaila, Miller - :06, (0)

Nash, Quis, Fin, JHo, Williams - 2:11, (0)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb - 2:11, (0)

Quis, Fin, JHo, AJ, Dirk - 2:01, (0)
.....vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb, Songaila - 2:01, (0)

Nash, Quis, JHo, Dirk, Eddie - 1:56, (-1)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:56, (-1)

Nash, Quis, JHo, AJ, Dirk - :27, (0)
.....vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :27, (0)

Nash, Fin, AJ, Dirk, Eddie - :26, (-2)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :10 (0)
.....vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Vlade - :16, (-2)

Nash, Quis, Fin, JHo, Dirk - :09, (0)
.....vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Miller - :09, (0)

[ShaggyDirk]

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[dirno2000]

Thanks...compiling all this data has to be an ass whipping. You should be working for 82games.com

[grndmstr_c]

Game 3's installment, 4/24, W 104-79

Nash, Quis, Fin, Dirk, Toine - 13:14, (+11)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Vlade - 13:14, (+11)

Quis, Delk, JHo, AJ, Williams - 5:37, (0)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Wallace, Songaila, Smith - 2:43, (-3)
…..vs. AP, GW, DS, BM, JS - 2:54, (+3)

Quis, Fin, JHo, AJ, Toine - 4:22, (+3)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Webb, Miller - :19, (0)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Wallace, Webb, Miller - 1:55, (+2)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Wallace, Songaila, Miller - 1:56, (+1)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Wallace, Songaila, Miller - :12, (0)

Quis, Fin, JHo, AJ, Dirk - 3:19, (-2)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Webb, Miller - 1:04, (+4)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Songaila, Miller - 2:15, (-6)

Nash, JHo, AJ, Dirk, Toine - 3:18, (+2)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Songaila, Miller - 1:34, (0)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Songaila, Miller - 1:05, (+2)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :39, (0)

Nash, Quis, Fin, AJ, Toine - 2:54, (-3)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Vlade - :52, (+2)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Webb, Miller - 2:02, (-5)

Quis, Fin, AJ, Dirk, Eddie - 2:10, (+3)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 2:10, (+3)

Nash, Quis, Fin, Dirk, Eddie - 2:09, (+4)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Vlade - :36, (+2)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:33, (+2)

Quis, Fin, Toine, Dirk, Eddie - 1:54, (0)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:54, (0)

Nash, Quis, Fin, AJ, Dirk - 1:46, (+3)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :25, (+2)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Wallace, Songaila, Miller - 1:21, (+1)

Nash, Fin, JHo, AJ, Williams - 1:41, (-2)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Wallace, Songaila, Vlade - 1:41, (-2)

Quis, Fin, AJ, Dirk, Toine - 1:28, (-2)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:28, (-2)

Quis, Fin, JHo, Dirk, Eddie - 1:20, (+7)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :57, (+5)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Webb, Miller - :23, (+2)

Quis, Fin, JHo, AJ, Eddie - 1:05, (0)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:05, (0)

Quis, Fin, JHo, AJ, Williams - :38, (-2)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Wallace, Songaila, Vlade - :38, (-2)

Nash, Fin, JHo, AJ, Dirk - :35, (+3)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Wallace, Songaila, Vlade - :35, (+3)

[dirno2000]

It's interesting (and a nice change) to see that Walker was part of some really positive +/- lineups.

[Tarzan]

I wish we would see the lineup of Bradley, Dirk, Jamison, Howard, and Daniels. That group seemed pretty effective the last month of the season.

[DirkNash1341]

I would be thrilled with any lineup that has more Bradley. That lineup worries me a little though. The rookies would be the only ballhandlers out there, and I'm not sure thats what you want in the playoffs. That was a problem in Game 1.

[MightyToine]

Originally posted by: dirno2000
It's interesting (and a nice change) to see that Walker was part of some really positive +/- lineups.

Well with Walker, LESS is [/b]MORE[/b].....As in Less Shots, More Passes.... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]


As long as he does that, He will always be in the PLUS-side of things....

[grndmstr_c]

Game 4, 4/26, L 92-94. This one hurts.

Nash, Quis, Fin, Dirk Toine - 12:41, (-3)
…..vs. Bibby, Chrstie, Peja, Webb, Vlade - 8:40, (-2)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Songaila, Miller - 3:47, (-3)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Songaila - :01, (0)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Songaila - :05, (+2)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webber - :08, (0)

Nash, Fin, JHo, Dirk, Toine - 6:46, (-6)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Vlade - 1:55, (-2)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Songaila, Miller - 1:16, (+2)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 2:16, (-6)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Songaila, Miller - 1:19, (0)

Nash, Fin, AJ, Dirk, Eddie - 6:37, (-6)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Songaila, Miller - :35, (0)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Songaila - 6:02, (-6)

Quis, Fin, AJ, Dirk, Eddie - 3:18, (+2)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 2:00, (+4)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:18, (-2)

Nash, Quis, Fin, AJ, Dirk - 2:48, (+2)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Songaila, Miller - :25, (0)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Songaila - :58, (+2)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Songaila - 1:25, (0)

Nash, Quis, Fin, Dirk, Eddie - 2:46, (+2)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Songaila - 2:21, (+2)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webber - :25, (0)

Nash, Quis, Fin, JHo, Dirk - 2:04, (-1)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Peja, Songaila - 2:04, (-1)

Nash, Quis, Fin, AJ, Toine - 1:57, (-2)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:57, (-2)

Nash, Fin, JHo, AJ, Dirk - 1:54, (+1)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Songaila, Miller - 1:54, (+1)

Nash, Fin, JHo, Dirk, Eddie - 1:47, (+4)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:47, (+4)

Nash, Quis, Fin, Toine, Eddie - 1:28, (+3)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :10, (+1)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Webb, Miller - 1:18, (+2)

Nash, JHo, AJ, Dirk, Eddie - 1:00, (+1)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :37, (0)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :23, (+1)

Nash, Quis, Fin, Toine, Williams - :49, (0)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Peja, Webb, Miller - :49, (0)

Quis, JHo, AJ, Dirk, Eddie - :46, (-1)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :46, (-1)

Nash, Fin, JHo, AJ, Toine - :43, (+2)
…..vs. Bibby, Peeler, Christie, Webb, Miller - :36, (+2)
…..vs. Bibby, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :07, (0)

Nash, Quis, JHo, AJ, Dirk - :36, (0)
…..vs. Peeler, Christie, Peja, Webb, Miller - :36 (0)

[PubaNWO]

Too many players played bad, yet the team was right there, even in the fourth quarter.

Make some of those shots that the team usually makes down the stretch and it's a victory.

Mavs need to keep their D up or keep getting lucky that Peja remains cold for the rest of the series.