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SMC0007 · 11-29-2022, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Walker is expected to not play for the next week or two. Has kept in shape but has not played since February.

Don't get a better chance than that, Hardy

Sooo.. thj with 38 mins

EricaLubarsky · 11-29-2022, 10:26 PM

I didn?t hear this but Tony Brothers was suspended for swearing and insulting Dinwiddie

saclare · 11-30-2022, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I didn?t hear this but Tony Brothers was suspended for swearing and insulting Dinwiddie

With pay. Refs stay coddled. On the other hand, they take and hear so much shit from the players on the daily. Still, not the best of phrases to let heard. I think his inner thoughts made it out lol

saclare · 12-02-2022, 11:58 AM

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/ma...ture-and-more/

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/ma...-improvements/

Nico making rounds. Nothing earth shattering as it's more of the same when it comes to Brunson, Dragic, Wood, etc.

But the part where he all but confirms Hardy will be given minutes soon was unexpected. GMs don't usually talk rotations/minutes and he touched a couple of times there and specifically when asked on Hardy.

I just wish these media peeps would dig in and ask harder questions mainly with respect to the Wood decision. An easy follow up would be to ask why there's data out there suggesting one thing with the FO/coaching staff doing another in Powell over Wood. Only then will we get past the window dressing and maybe get some sort of insight since there's def something behind the scenes or pure stubborness on both parts.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-02-2022, 12:10 PM

Doesn't matter if he says Hardy will gets minutes or not though. He isn't the coach.

If Hardy can't play vs Detroit, then when will he play?

saclare · 12-02-2022, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Doesn't matter if he says Hardy will gets minutes or not though. He isn't the coach.

If Hardy can't play vs Detroit, then when will he play?

Because the coach and FO have been in concert, at least at face value, thus far. To me, this will be an interesting tell into the dynamic between the two. Both have backed each other to date.

dirt_dobber · 12-02-2022, 12:42 PM

If the defending champs Warriors can make room for a 2-way player for a few minutes against us -- we should be ablt to find Hardy some minutes.

And serious question - Would any of our other starters start on another team?
I think not. Sad.

BPo001 · 12-02-2022, 03:19 PM

During a radio appearance Thursday afternoon on Dallas-Fort Worth sports talk station The Ticket, Dallas Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison had a rather candid admission about the state of Kemba Walker?s troubled knee.
?It?s not good,? Harrison said. ?It?s not good at all. But he?s rehabbed it and it?s the best he?s felt in the last two years so, we?ll see how long that lasts.?

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-02-2022, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

During a radio appearance Thursday afternoon on Dallas-Fort Worth sports talk station The Ticket, Dallas Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison had a rather candid admission about the state of Kemba Walker?s troubled knee.
?It?s not good,? Harrison said. ?It?s not good at all. But he?s rehabbed it and it?s the best he?s felt in the last two years so, we?ll see how long that lasts.?

Anyone really surprised? He is filling in the Facu role. Mavs still live in a delusion that they don't need someone else.

Not sure he even plays 10 games.

Zeus · 12-02-2022, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

During a radio appearance Thursday afternoon on Dallas-Fort Worth sports talk station The Ticket, Dallas Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison had a rather candid admission about the state of Kemba Walker?s troubled knee.
?It?s not good,? Harrison said. ?It?s not good at all. But he?s rehabbed it and it?s the best he?s felt in the last two years so, we?ll see how long that lasts.?

Nico is in over his head. He will be gone within a year.

BPo001 · 12-02-2022, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

Nico is in over his head. He will be gone within a year.

I don?t think Cuban would admit his mistake that quickly and fire him. Nico would have to step down.

SMC0007 · 12-02-2022, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

Nico is in over his head. He will be gone within a year.

How often has Cuban fired or replaced anyone that quickly?

saclare · 12-02-2022, 04:01 PM

Nah, this always felt like a shot in the dark move. I think they full well know they need someone else. I mean, I like Josh Green, but the Mavs at times have had to use him as the 3rd PG and that's just not his long-term strength or value to this team.

Still think it all comes via trade, no clue on buyout market but that's always doubtful.

Heck, if nothing else, Dorsey seems to have something there. Why not? It seems they're giddy to add young potential and ever so hesitant to let it ride.

EricaLubarsky · 12-02-2022, 05:13 PM

The problem
I think other than coaching our biggest problem is guard defense.

Right now? Our starting back-court is:

SF: THJ: 6'6"
SG: Spence 6'6"
PG: Luka 6'7"

You have to love Luka's height, but is it any wonder that we are getting toasted by guys 6'4" and shorter like Killian Hayes? We just matchup horribly.

Guards 6'0"-6'5" who have torched us
Killian Hayes 22pts (averages 8)
Grayson Allen 25pts (averages 11)
Bones Hyland 29pts/17pts (averages 15)
John Wall 17pts (averages 13)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 18pts (averages 11)

so what?
The bad news is that we are a trainwreck defensively for smaller, quicker guards and those defensive problems are leading to bigs getting out of position, which is leading to layups and open threes as our defense struggles to adjust. A defense is like a house and we're trying to adapt without one entire wall.

The good news is that with 6'7" Luka playing point, we can get a really quality small SG (tweener) who would normally be called too small to play SG and not skilled enough to play PG and they'd be successful next to Luka. In fact, that is exactly what we need. We were lucky with Brunson because he could play both, but you can't swing a stick without hitting a combo-guard who is too small to be SG, and not mature enough to play quarterback.

Which, by the way, is why Hardy should play some damn @#$%ing minutes. 6'3" scorer who doesn't have the highest BBIQ and isn't a natural running point? That was a negative on Hardy in the draft, but for us? That's perfect! We literally need someone 6'0"-6'4" who can defend jitterbugs at an even passable level and who can score off the pass and occasionally slash.

If he doesn't play, hopefully Walker will turn out and maybe we can trade a pick for DSJ, or a handful of other small PG/SG tweeners. Until that happens, we are going to get wrecked by PGs and that is going to leave our defense 1-5 scrambling and frustrated. It isn't going to change without a roster/lineup change, but there is some hope.

SMC0007 · 12-02-2022, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

The problem
I think other than coaching our biggest problem is guard defense.

Right now? Our starting back-court is:

SF: THJ: 6'6"
SG: Spence 6'6"
PG: Luka 6'7"

You have to love Luka's height, but is it any wonder that we are getting toasted by guys 6'4" and shorter like Killian Hayes? We just matchup horribly.

Guards 6'0"-6'5" who have torched us
Killian Hayes 22pts (averages 8)
Grayson Allen 25pts (averages 11)
Bones Hyland 29pts/17pts (averages 15)
John Wall 17pts (averages 13)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 18pts (averages 11)

so what?
The bad news is that we are a trainwreck defensively for smaller, quicker guards and those defensive problems are leading to bigs getting out of position, which is leading to layups and open threes as our defense struggles to adjust. A defense is like a house and we're trying to adapt without one entire wall.

The good news is that with 6'7" Luka playing point, we can get a really quality small SG (tweener) who would normally be called too small to play SG and not skilled enough to play PG and they'd be successful next to Luka. In fact, that is exactly what we need. We were lucky with Brunson because he could play both, but you can't swing a stick without hitting a combo-guard who is too small to be SG, and not mature enough to play quarterback.

Which, by the way, is why Hardy should play some damn @#$%ing minutes. 6'3" scorer who doesn't have the highest BBIQ and isn't a natural running point? That was a negative on Hardy in the draft, but for us? That's perfect! We literally need someone 6'0"-6'4" who can defend jitterbugs at an even passable level and who can score off the pass and occasionally slash.

If he doesn't play, hopefully Walker will turn out and maybe we can trade a pick for DSJ, or a handful of other small PG/SG tweeners. Until that happens, we are going to get wrecked by PGs and that is going to leave our defense 1-5 scrambling and frustrated. It isn't going to change without a roster/lineup change, but there is some hope.

Fair points. We also need Luka to just be better on ball. Matching up on D works until the first pick is set on Luka. Then it's time to hold on to your seat.

I'm all for giving Hardy mins, and starting Green. I'm so sick of THJ, and Bullock. Dfs doesn't deserve the hate but in the friendliest way, I'm tired of him too.

I wasn't butt hurt abiut not even taking a swing at DSJ but man, we could use him and he wanted to be back here. Womp

Melonhead · 12-02-2022, 10:00 PM

Just an insane thing to say after signing a veteran

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-02-2022, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Just an insane thing to say after signing a veteran

lol Nico doesn't know what he is doing. If he is doing anything at all...

FreshJive · 12-03-2022, 04:00 AM

Mavs top 3 worse decisions of all time

1. Steve Nash
2. Tyson Chandler
3. Jaylon Brunson

Brunson is actually 1st

Lestat_1795 · 12-05-2022, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

Mavs top 3 worse decisions of all time

1. Steve Nash
2. Tyson Chandler
3. Jaylon Brunson

Brunson is actually 1st

I am with you with 1. and 2. but 3.?
Wow! Nobody in the whole NBA is talking about Brunson.
Only Mavs Fans

EricaLubarsky · 12-05-2022, 01:21 PM

Thought experiment:

Mavs offer 2025 FRP to teams and get two takers:

A) Heat for Lowry
B) Bulls for LaVine
C) No to both

WYD

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-05-2022, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Thought experiment:

Mavs offer 2025 FRP to teams and get two takers:

A) Heat for Lowry
B) Bulls for LaVine
C) No to both

WYD

I'm open to Lavine, but I don't think we have a good enough package.

I should say good enough package Mavs are willing to give up. You're looking at Dinwiddie, Green, picks...maybe more.

SMC0007 · 12-05-2022, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Thought experiment:

Mavs offer 2025 FRP to teams and get two takers:

A) Heat for Lowry
B) Bulls for LaVine
C) No to both

WYD

Lavine yea... but We would probably give up at least 1 of the young guys we would need to counter our outgoing '25f frp, like Green or Hardy. Green wouldn't be terrible loss, but I'd not give Hardy...whixh they would want.

While we're moving pieces around. Offload THJ and Wood while they have value for Anthony brittle Davis and pray he stays healthy.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-05-2022, 07:41 PM

I'm not including Hardy for Lavine. Call me nuts if you will.

EricaLubarsky · 12-05-2022, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I'm not including Hardy for Lavine. Call me nuts if you will.

But it would be the most Mavs thing to do to trade a future CJ McCollum for a mediocre talent.

Budapest Maverick · 12-06-2022, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I'm not including Hardy for Lavine. Call me nuts if you will.

I don't trade for LaVine period. It would be an amazingly dumb move, even if we only send out Dinwiddie and Bertans. The guy will be one of the worst contracts next year and onward, if he is not that already. No thank you.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-05-2022, 07:56 PM

Listen, Hardy has tons of holes in his game. Turns it over...not great passer...no clue on defense.

But he does that one thing realllly well that you need to be a player in the NBA. Grade A offense from the guard position is a coveted asset. And he can do it all scoring-wise.

If at worst he is a taller Lou Williams, then that is still a really good thing to have off the bench.

saclare · 12-07-2022, 10:45 AM

I just noticed that Bullock's contract next year is roughly half guaranteed. I'd love for him to revert back to career averages but if he can't, that should be a very tradable piece as part of a bigger deal. Preference on the former but he is playing his worst basketball at the moment.

EricaLubarsky · 12-07-2022, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by saclare

I just noticed that Bullock's contract next year is roughly half guaranteed. I'd love for him to revert back to career averages but if he can't, that should be a very tradable piece as part of a bigger deal. Preference on the former but he is playing his worst basketball at the moment.

Im not nearly as negative on Bullock as 90% of DM.com, but I do agree that with Green's improvement, Bullock could be a very tradable piece for a team that is struggling to get assets.

The only issue is we have to rehab him back to the defensive expert/sharpshooter that we saw late last season. If he gets back there, he would be a very attractive piece to other teams. If we stack up DNPs, he won't have value.

saclare · 12-07-2022, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Im not nearly as negative on Bullock as 90% of DM.com, but I do agree that with Green's improvement, Bullock could be a very tradable piece for a team that is struggling to get assets.

The only issue is we have to rehab him back to the defensive expert/sharpshooter that we saw late last season. If he gets back there, he would be a very attractive piece to other teams. If we stack up DNPs, he won't have value.

Oh, I'm not down on Bullock. He's absolutely struggling, and the theory is it's only up from here. If he could progress to his career means it would go a long way to either improving this team or the return from his inclusion in a trade. At present, Kidd is rightfully giving more minutes to THJ and Green. Bullock might only be worth salary fill-in or a 2nd round pick.

I just still have a gut feeling that a trade is what is the catalyst for this team, if only to open up minutes for guys like Green and even Hardy. Same with the group of big men, where I think Wood's increased role comes at the expense of Powell or Maxi. McGee hopefully learning all he can from Powell since he's most likely given the expiring contract and the latter's inability to provide what Maxi can.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-07-2022, 04:22 PM

I guess we run into the issue of opportunity vs experience. So Bullock has been terrible under basically every metric this season, but you keep playing him because he help get us to the WCF. But there seems to be no punishment whatsoever for his poor play.

Meanwhile, Hardy, who has earned minutes, can't even sniff the floor.

My theory continues to be to play the young guys so that these vets can be ready to go for the playoffs. If Bullock isn't showing up that game, then put in Hardy to see if something changes. It's really a win-win scenario.

And really, the current turnaround has been an offensive one with THJ making shots. That has in turn energized the team to play better D. You saw how electric that bench was when Hardy scored 10 points in 2 minutes. We still need more of that...a lot of that actually, just to get through the damn season.

Bullock and even McGee are guys that will likely serve you well come playoff time, but they just aren't giving you anything you need right now.

saclare · 12-07-2022, 05:28 PM

The only counter there is that Bullock has been relegated to the bench and his overall minutes decreased. Small sample size, but he has been "punished" to a degree while we can argue if it should be less minutes and to who. Everything else I agree.

Melonhead · 12-08-2022, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by saclare

The only counter there is that Bullock has been relegated to the bench and his overall minutes decreased. Small sample size, but he has been "punished" to a degree while we can argue if it should be less minutes and to who. Everything else I agree.

i know youre using it in quotes, but still hes def not been punished. hes been that bad, and kidd stayed with him longer than he shouldve and it still didnt improve

EricaLubarsky · 12-08-2022, 01:19 PM

The Mavericks and Pistons recently ?touched base? on trade talks in which Nerlens Noel was among the players discussed, according to Ian Begley of SNY.tv. Begley adds that Noel has drawn interest from multiple playoff teams in need of rim protection.

Melonhead · 12-08-2022, 01:59 PM

Lol

EricaLubarsky · 12-08-2022, 03:23 PM

Actually don't think it's a bad idea.

He was a top defensive center for a while there and at 28 he's not on the Pistons rebuild timeline

As much as I hate how many Knicks scraps we have and his last stint with us left a bad taste in my mouth, but I would totally trade Javale, Frank, and a second rounder for him. That would make us significantly better when Kleber is injured or having an off game while not costing us a lot of assets.

Trade a 2025 FRP for a decent guard

Nothing huge, but those are a couple of small moves that could make us significantly better.

Melonhead · 12-08-2022, 04:02 PM

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Actually don't think it's a bad idea.

He was a top defensive center for a while there and at 28 he's not on the Pistons rebuild timeline

As much as I hate how many Knicks scraps we have and his last stint with us left a bad taste in my mouth, but I would totally trade Javale, Frank, and a second rounder for him. That would make us significantly better when Kleber is injured or having an off game while not costing us a lot of assets.

Trade a 2025 FRP for a decent guard

Nothing huge, but those are a couple of small moves that could make us significantly better.

What about the center thats with Washington Daniel Gafford? Idk much about him though, Ive always wanted Rui however.

EricaLubarsky · 12-08-2022, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

What about the center thats with Washington Daniel Gafford? Idk much about him though, Ive always wanted Rui however.

Gafford despite coming off the bench will. probably be 1-2 FRPs.

I'm not opposed to spending first-rounders, but we don't have one to trade until 2025/2027 as it is, so we will need a move or two that doesn't take picks or. just second-rounders.

Melonhead · 12-08-2022, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Gafford despite coming off the bench will. probably be 1-2 FRPs.

I'm not opposed to spending first-rounders, but we don't have one to trade until 2025/2027 as it is, so we will need a move or two that doesn't take picks or. just second-rounders.

Gotcha...Im not opposed to Nerlens but just feels like a stop gap.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-08-2022, 04:35 PM

Reggie for Nerlens works straight up, and Reggie played for the Pistons. Actually makes a good bit of sense.

Opens up a bigger role for Green and maybe even minutes for Hardy.

I'm not dying to trade Reggie, but is there anything he does better than Green?

BPo001 · 12-08-2022, 11:33 PM

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Reggie for Nerlens works straight up, and Reggie played for the Pistons. Actually makes a good bit of sense.

Opens up a bigger role for Green and maybe even minutes for Hardy.

I'm not dying to trade Reggie, but is there anything he does better than Green?

Why do the Pistons make that move though? I don?t watch them to know what their needs are.