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Melonhead · 10-18-2023, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Luka out of practice

Doctor on Locked on Mavs thinks the injury is psycho-somatic. No injury matches his.

Honestly worried about this team.

well thats something to be worried about for sure.

disappointing that thj said he hasnt been able to have a one on one with Kidd about his role.

SMC0007 · 10-18-2023, 05:01 PM

Get rekt

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-18-2023, 11:16 PM

Our lovely coach ladies and gentlemen...

https://twitter.com/sixfivelando/sta...14241251708928

EricaLubarsky · 10-19-2023, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Our lovely coach ladies and gentlemen...

https://twitter.com/sixfivelando/sta...14241251708928

It's weird to me that the players like Kidd for the most part.

He seems like a total trainwreck to me. His playmaking and Xs/Os work is miserable, but he's sold as a "personality guy" but if he can't communicate clearly with players, what DOES he do?

purplefrog · 10-19-2023, 01:54 PM

Which of the following describes Coach Jason Kidd:

a). Dumb as dirt
b). Dumb as a box of rocks
c). Dumb as a doornail
d). Dumb as a dodo bird
e). All of the above

EricaLubarsky · 10-19-2023, 02:19 PM

Kidd already going to start Powell

Melonhead · 10-19-2023, 03:37 PM

noise level will be deafening to fire Kidd if they get off to a slow start.

i hate to be negative but nothing ive seen shows this team will be any different fundamentally from last year.

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-19-2023, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Kidd already going to start Powell

LOL his answer to solidified starters was 2 1/2. Tries to play it off as a joke, but I really don't think he is. The guy is nuts!

If Powell starts, I'm out until Kidd is fired. This is an unserious franchise.

EricaLubarsky · 10-19-2023, 05:31 PM

Stein saying Lively will start

Kidd just has early onset dimentia? Is that better than being a douchebag liar?

EricaLubarsky · 10-19-2023, 05:53 PM

Kidd: Tony Bradley will start

KIDDing but you believed me because this team?s leadership is a joke like that.

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-20-2023, 08:08 AM

They def should be trying to get Darius Bazley since our 4 spot is wide open.

EricaLubarsky · 10-20-2023, 09:34 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXHQP3UalqM

It's Gameday!

Some real issues to work out
1) THJ and Kidd aren't talking?
2) Kidd refuses to nail down starters
3) Luka and Kyrie have played seven total minutes together and Luka out injured
4) Starting lineup has been like -38. Can Kidd fix the failure to start?
5) Final game of the preseason. Can we make it count?

turin · 10-20-2023, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

DP baby! Get ready for tons of him.

It's preseason game 1. No surprises here. We know the team is a little better, but we didn't take the kind of strides in roster upgrading to contend.

This may be the first season I don't pay for a TV package that includes my Mavs

As long as Kidd remains coach, this team isn't worth the time and emotional investment. I'll just check box scores every now and then like I did last year. I hope the young guys can develop a bit. There is going to be a big talent hole to plug after Luka leaves in the future.

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-20-2023, 10:20 AM

Hey look, former players trashing us! This is awesome!

https://twitter.com/J_Rich1/status/1715102852819874172

EricaLubarsky · 10-20-2023, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Hey look, former players trashing us! This is awesome!

https://twitter.com/J_Rich1/status/1715102852819874172

Don't really give a shit. He just said he had personal problems. Any franchise will have haters.

We have real issues but this one isnt it

EricaLubarsky · 10-20-2023, 04:35 PM

Mavs sign Justin Jackson and Pinson

Neither one of them is eligible for a two-way, so it's E10, camp spot (for the one game of preseason we have left tonight), or it's an actual roster spot

EricaLubarsky · 10-20-2023, 06:23 PM

?No timetable for return? for Luka

SMC0007 · 10-20-2023, 06:24 PM

1998. Was the last time I didn't make sure I had access to watch mav games. Obviously it's harder nowadays because of greed and stupidity but, I need them to prove their worth.

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-20-2023, 08:03 PM

Lively has been basically perfect so far against Det. The one thing to really look forward to this season.

And its amazing how much better Josh Green plays when Luka doesn't. That's a big problem.

EricaLubarsky · 10-20-2023, 08:20 PM

Green: pay me, bitch

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-20-2023, 08:46 PM

Didn't the FO prop up Holmes to have a come back year? So much for that.

EricaLubarsky · 10-20-2023, 09:34 PM

Mavs waive Bradley the day after they signed him

BPo001 · 10-21-2023, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

1998. Was the last time I didn't make sure I had access to watch mav games. Obviously it's harder nowadays because of greed and stupidity but, I need them to prove their worth.

It?s really pathetic that I can?t watch my local team with a cable subscription through Frontier. I watched last year w a VPN and league pass, but this trash squad isn?t worth the money this season.

SMC0007 · 10-21-2023, 09:30 AM

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It?s really pathetic that I can?t watch my local team with a cable subscription through Frontier. I watched last year w a VPN and league pass, but this trash squad isn?t worth the money this season.

It really is pathetic. I don't feel like Cuban really cares all that much. If people would talk with their dollars, he and the league would listen. 20$ a month is too much for the app, and 90$ it too much for a streaming service like Fubo that includes it

Dallas41 · 10-21-2023, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXHQP3UalqM

It's Gameday!

Some real issues to work out
1) THJ and Kidd aren't talking?
2) Kidd refuses to nail down starters
3) Luka and Kyrie have played seven total minutes together and Luka out injured
4) Starting lineup has been like -38. Can Kidd fix the failure to start?
5) Final game of the preseason. Can we make it count?

Actually if kidd ain't speaking to THJ that it's a good thing imo

It may help to facilitate a trade if THJ is unhappy with his role

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-21-2023, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Actually if kidd ain't speaking to THJ that it's a good thing imo

It may help to facilitate a trade if THJ is unhappy with his role

He has no trade value, so that makes 0 sense.

We've been shopping the guy for what seems like an eternity. Pissing him off then being stuck with him isn't the way.

EricaLubarsky · 10-22-2023, 11:55 AM

Rumors are we wanted Adams

Good thing we didn?t. He?s now out the season with a knee injury.

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-22-2023, 12:07 PM

Yep. Lively is looking more and more like a very smart pick especially with how he played against Duren/Wiseman.

EricaLubarsky · 10-22-2023, 12:24 PM

Lively is going to be ridiculously inconsistent this year. That's my prediction and that is almost guaranteed based on the history of bigs. Still, he's shown he can be a rebounding upgrade for this team and a defensive disruptor.

The cool and unexpected thing I saw in the Pistons game is that when given space he can actually exert gravity in the middle and score a bit. It reminds me of two years ago when Powell was so dominant on the roll that it made room for Luka to be dominant. Either teams plug the middle to fight him and Luka/Kyrie have less pressure on them or they defend the perimeter and Lively is going to have room to feast on layups and oops.

Lively's promise is there to not just be a defensive guy but a two-way guy. He just has to learn to set better screens, stay out of foul trouble, and be more consistent

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-23-2023, 11:51 AM

5pm deadline for Green. Stein mentioned they are in talks, but Green is represented by CAA...who also represents Brunson and Terrence Ross...

Wouldn't get my hopes up.

purplefrog · 10-23-2023, 12:07 PM

"I think he?s just trying to play the game the right way through everything that he's been working on during the summer and things that we have asked him to do, both offensively and defensively," Kidd said of Green. "I think that's what he has been focused on. I think that the contract is going to take care of itself at some point. He's going to get a contract at some point, and if it's not now, it's going to be after the season."

I sense the same approach the MBT took with Brunson will apply to Green. The additions of two-way contract players Dennis and Brown, along with Jones and Exum on the roster may indicate a willingness to part with Green either at the trade deadline or, as in the case of Brunson, just let him walk away at the end of the season. I realize the Brunson deal was unique in that his father played a significant role, but this feels similar in that the MBT may be thinking "let's see how he plays during the season and then decide how much he is worth".

Melonhead · 10-23-2023, 01:13 PM

I like Josh Green and want to see him fulfill his potential. Unfortunately this roster with Luka and Kidd will not get him to that potential. He should look elsewhere.

sig · 10-23-2023, 02:39 PM

I'd sign Green to deal like GW has but think he will have to go to be an RFA. It's is kind of risky to pay him more in the 20 mil per year range then he not prove out. That would just hurt whatever his trade value is. If his game takes the next jump and he proves to be 20 mil then pay him next summer or match what he signs. Getting his scoring average up to 13-15 would be a good start.

I think there is a lot of smoke with THJ. He is the ultimate pro and understands the trades and the talk surrounding it are part of the business. TBH, I'm surprised finding a team that wants him is difficult. He is up to any role (6th man or starter). Why do he and Kidd need to talk over the off season. Hardy showed a lot of upside as a scorer but I think he will have to wait for a consistent bench role because IMO, THJ, curry and Exum are likely starting the season in the rotation.

EricaLubarsky · 10-23-2023, 03:11 PM

13.5mill is very fair for him. MLA is 12.4 so he is barely above the MLA for a guy who can be a starter and average 9-3-2 on 40% 3pt shooting and solid defense.

EricaLubarsky · 10-23-2023, 03:13 PM

Luka was a "full participant" in practice today

No word on if he will play Wednesday, but I'd say that the odds are decent if he's not held out for injuries.

SMC0007 · 10-23-2023, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sig

I'd sign Green to deal like GW has but think he will have to go to be an RFA. It's is kind of risky to pay him more in the 20 mil per year range then he not prove out. That would just hurt whatever his trade value is. If his game takes the next jump and he proves to be 20 mil then pay him next summer or match what he signs. Getting his scoring average up to 13-15 would be a good start.

I think there is a lot of smoke with THJ. He is the ultimate pro and understands the trades and the talk surrounding it are part of the business. TBH, I'm surprised finding a team that wants him is difficult. He is up to any role (6th man or starter). Why do he and Kidd need to talk over the off season. Hardy showed a lot of upside as a scorer but I think he will have to wait for a consistent bench role because IMO, THJ, curry and Exum are likely starting the season in the rotation.

I have no idea why THJ would even expect to start. He hasn't moved the needle defensively and can't handle the ball well. He is a really good 6th or 7th man.

Melonhead · 10-23-2023, 08:45 PM

Luka
Kyrie
Grant
DJJ
Lively

Then we got Hardy Green THj Holmes

I?m very interested to see how Exum can squeeze minutes into the lineup. I think he still has a lot left.

purplefrog · 10-24-2023, 09:24 AM

Happy to see the MBT extended Green. I am glad this is not a question mark going into the season. Three years and $41M

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-year-41m-deal

DevinHarriswillstart · 10-24-2023, 03:44 PM

Yeah, Hawks extended Okongwu for a really reasonable contract. That explains why they were shopping Capela.

Still wouldn't mind Clint at the deadline for rebounding.

saclare · 10-24-2023, 04:04 PM

Who is starting our 2023-2024 Season thread? Need to get that going and a lot of discussions in the same place.