02-25-2010, 12:06 AM
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League better be prepared because the Mavs will ROCK YOU!!
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02-25-2010, 12:06 AM
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02-25-2010, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
Haywood since joining the Mavs:
11.17 ppg
10.67 rpg
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anyone not ecstatic over that?
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02-25-2010, 12:06 AM
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"The Jet is on fire!" <-- bad expression
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02-25-2010, 12:07 AM
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I'm excited that the Mavs can now actually start a true NBA sized lineup. That extra length on the perimeter is so much better.
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02-25-2010, 12:08 AM
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As long as injuries don't occur and they remained focused, this team will be the #2 seed by the end of the 2nd week of March...book it
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02-25-2010, 12:08 AM
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And again we hold the opposition to under 100 points.
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02-25-2010, 12:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
Haywood since joining the Mavs:
11.17 ppg
10.67 rpg
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Were the two decimal places necessary? Couldn't you have just gone with one?
He's been awesome, though. Hands are like 100000000x better than Damp's, late in the shot clock he can pull out a hook shot or two, and he's extremely smart with his fouls. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he hasn't really been in foul trouble for these 6 games, has he? Uses his fouls wisely, regardless.
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02-25-2010, 12:08 AM
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Big Minutes played but today i take it to beat the Fakers...
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02-25-2010, 12:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
As long as injuries don't occur and they remained focused, this team will be the #2 seed by the end of the 2nd week of March...book it
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so booked.
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02-25-2010, 12:09 AM
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Dirk & Jet were huge. So was Kidd & Haywood.
I really like DeShawn. He's such an upgrade to the usual "poor shooting defensive specialist scrub SGs" we often started in the past.
Stevenson>Ross/Wright/Newman/Buckner/Hassell/Rawle Marshall.
I'd like to see him get 10-20 mpg depending on matchups.
Najera & JJB might kill this team in the playoffs. We just CANNOT rely on either against elite teams. We desperately need a healthy Damp/TT/another PF.
As is, when Dirk/Wood rests...that leaves Najera at PF or Center. Against good teams, that really gets exploited. And JJB is just absolutely terrible at this point. Kidd can't continually play 40+ a night. Roddy is too inexperienced (in part thanks to RC) to see more than 5 MPG in the playoffs. We either need to:
Play Jet at PG with Butler/Stevenson at SG when Kidd rests. Or sign a vet PG. JJB is just not going to cut it.
And we damn well better not see that 3 PG lineup in the playoffs (I know we will though).
Great win for the Jiggaman!
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02-25-2010, 12:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan
"The Jet is on fire!" <-- bad expression
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lol
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02-25-2010, 12:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
Just think of all the wasted time we've gone through with waiting out Josh
If you don't trust JJ or Roddy, continue the crafty shifting and play Jet at the point...now you have a defensive counter that gives you extra minutes (Stevenson). He can cover up the potential lack of defense you get with Jet and could be a remote threat from range. I think Stevenson showed he can give you some minutes and you can possibly save Kidd from having to play some many minutes.
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I like.
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02-25-2010, 12:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aurelino9
And again we hold the opposition to under 100 points.
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great point
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02-25-2010, 12:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CadBane
We either need to:
Play Jet at PG with Butler/Stevenson at SG when Kidd rests. Or sign a vet PG. JJB is just not going to cut it.
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That's my solution come playoff time. In the regular season though, I think Roddy needs to get as much burn as we can afford to give him.
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02-25-2010, 12:14 AM
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Box Score fun fact: Every Mavs player who played got a steal.
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02-25-2010, 12:14 AM
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You got owned:
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02-25-2010, 12:15 AM
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The Preacha
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CadBane
Dirk & Jet were huge. So was Kidd & Haywood.
I really like DeShawn. He's such an upgrade to the usual "poor shooting defensive specialist scrub SGs" we often started in the past.
Stevenson>Ross/Wright/Newman/Buckner/Hassell/Rawle Marshall.
I'd like to see him get 10-20 mpg depending on matchups.
Najera & JJB might kill this team in the playoffs. We just CANNOT rely on either against elite teams. We desperately need a healthy Damp/TT/another PF.
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great post.
Stevenson is going to be stout as long as he can keep right with ball. I agree that he is the best version of that type of player we have had in here for a while.
I don't expect to see Eddie or JJB in the playoffs...not much anyway.
I want to point out how happy I think Dirk and Kidd are to have the new guys in here...and how happy they are to be here. This is a happy crew and THAT is great!!!
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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02-25-2010, 12:16 AM
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BTW, we've been talking about DeShawn a lot, but I don't think anybody has mentioned Marion's defense on Kobe tonight. That was HUGE.
EDIT: Nobody's mentioned it except for Kante's picture of Marion's ass in Kobe's face.
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02-25-2010, 12:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kante
You got owned:
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hahahaha +rep
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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02-25-2010, 12:17 AM
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lol
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02-25-2010, 12:17 AM
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Spiral I need an answer. Are you on the bandwagon?
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02-25-2010, 12:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
BTW, we've been talking about DeShawn a lot, but I don't think anybody has mentioned Marion's defense on Kobe tonight. That was HUGE.
EDIT: Nobody's mentioned it except for Kante's picture of Marion's ass in Kobe's face.
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I'm glad that RC made a determined effort to keep Kobe frustrated. Marion looked good out there tonight.
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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02-25-2010, 12:18 AM
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It's obvious what the difference is with Stevenson vs the Ross', Jones', Wrights', Christie's of the world we've had try to fill the roll: He's tough and you might worry that he's a little off-center.
Just get in game shape and you'll be a part of the rotation.
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02-25-2010, 12:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by badfish22
Spiral I need an answer. Are you on the bandwagon?
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Depends on what you mean. Do I think the Mavs are gonna win the championship? No. Am I absolutely thrilled with the trade, and the direction the team is headed in? Hell yes.
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02-25-2010, 12:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
EDIT: Nobody's mentioned it except for Kante's picture of Marion's ass in Kobe's face.
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I just checked with the judges and they say Kante's pic speaks a thousand words on the topic.
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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02-25-2010, 12:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
BTW, we've been talking about DeShawn a lot, but I don't think anybody has mentioned Marion's defense on Kobe tonight. That was HUGE.
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Absolutely. He was fantastic on Kobe in the second half. What a luxury to be able to throw Marion, Butler and Stevenson, three good defenders, all strong and legit 6'5" or more, to guard the best perimeter players in the league. Also, I thought Kidd did a good job on Artest when he was mismatched in the post.
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02-25-2010, 12:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
Am I absolutely thrilled with the trade, and the direction the team is headed in? Hell yes.
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this is still a change of initial tone...so I am happy you're seeing the light.
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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02-25-2010, 12:20 AM
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I love how everyone stepped up tonight they treated this like it was precursor to the post season.
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02-25-2010, 12:21 AM
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Artest is just a shadow of his former self...averaging less than 12 ppg??? wow.
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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02-25-2010, 12:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavsfan4ever
I love how everyone stepped up tonight they treated this like it was precursor to the post season.
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The National media LOVES Butler...I think most of the talking heads looked at the trade as a huge move in a positive direction for the Mavs. Not making them a favorite...but at least in the mix.
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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02-25-2010, 12:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
Depends on what you mean. Do I think the Mavs are gonna win the championship? No. Am I absolutely thrilled with the trade, and the direction the team is headed in? Hell yes.
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That's a very fair answer.
I don't need to be sold on the fact that they are gonna win the championship right now though. I'm not expecting to see them really hit their stride until the 2nd/3rd week of March when the schedule gets really favorable and they're more in the groove working together. The scary thing is, if we're playing the way we are NOW and we are just starting to work on getting in gear...you'll have to buy that potential hype.
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02-25-2010, 12:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sike
Artest is just a shadow of his former self...averaging less than 12 ppg??? wow.
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Even more perplexing is just how much his defense has fallen off. A few years ago he was bar none the best perimeter defender in the league. These days he's not good enough to make the all-defensive 3rd team, if there was such a thing.
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02-25-2010, 12:24 AM
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Anyone else relieved that Crazy Pills and Abe Lincoln didn't go berserk on each other?
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02-25-2010, 12:24 AM
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Haywood with only 3 fouls. How crazy is that? And against the Lakers no less.
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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02-25-2010, 12:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sike
Artest is just a shadow of his former self...averaging less than 12 ppg??? wow.
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Eh...I wouldn't base it on PPG, they're not asking him to be a scorer. He's gotta be, at best, the 3rd or 4th scoring option on that team.
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02-25-2010, 12:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
Even more perplexing is just how much his defense has fallen off. A few years ago he was bar none the best perimeter defender in the league. These days he's not good enough to make the all-defensive 3rd team, if there was such a thing.
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its very strange. he is really taking one for the team.
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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02-25-2010, 12:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sike
The National media LOVES Butler...I think most of the talking heads looked at the trade as a huge move in a positive direction for the Mavs. Not making them a favorite...but at least in the mix.
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This. Everyone, media wise, is all about "how Butler helps the Mavs". Yeah he does, but IMO the Haywood addition is far far more important.
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02-25-2010, 12:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sike
Haywood with only 3 fouls. How crazy is that? And against the Lakers no less.
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If someone had told me Haywood would have only 3 fouls before this game I would have called them crazy.
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02-25-2010, 12:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LonghornDub
Mavs lose.
Just kidding. Mavs win!
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