2020 NBA Draft

[KillerLeft]

Originally Posted by mac222b

I don’t think so either. I think Denver is going to offer 4yr. 60m or something like it. I just hope we use the MLE if someone decent is available and not “plan powder” part 11. MLE is a 3yr. minimum so that rules out olds like Millsap and Baynes. Saric isn’t a great defender but I think he would fit well here and could give us some secondary shot creation. Phoenix probably matches MLE for him though.

So you’re not in favor of bringing Burke back, then?

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by KillerLeft

So you’re not in favor of bringing Burke back, then?

I’m one of the most adamant around here that we desperately need another secondary ball handler/ creator and I don’t think Brunson is the answer. I think Brunson is a good player on a good contract and still has room to improve but not a guy who can consistently get his own. KP just hasn’t been that efficient in the post or off the bounce. He seemed more efficient in the mid range against the Clipper and maybe that’s a harbinger of better things. But he lacks the quicks and explosion that give, say, Anthony Davis his space for wide open mid range shots. He lacks the strength and obviously the vision of Jokic. Hardaway? Seth? They should be 4th, 5th, 6th options. Brunson too.

I think teams are always going to scheme to get the ball out of Lukas hands and luckily we have RC who is crafty enough to counter.. But we desperately need a guy quick off the bounce who can make a team pay and also simply to give Luka some rest from the heavy useage. I like Burke but I worry about having/paying/playing so many small guys without the defensive chops of Lowrey and Van Vleet. With MLE the priority should be big long wings who can guard 3-5. Maybe we get one or two guys like that in the draft? Maybe we don’t love the options in FA and give Burke a chunk of the MLE? I just wonder about committing resources and minutes to Burke if you have already have smallish guards in Brunson and Seth not to mention what happens if we can’t offload Delon? Where will the minutes come from? Maybe we look to move Brunson in the right deal?

I think Burke was/is for us a smaller version of what Utah traded for in Clarkson. They were another team that lacked creators, even pre Bogdan injury. If they think he can give reliably give the team Clarkson like production for half the cost maybe that’s a good value? I think Clarkson gets someone’s MLE or close to it.

[KillerLeft]

Originally Posted by mac222b

I’m one of the most adamant around here that we desperately need another secondary ball handler/ creator and I don’t think Brunson is the answer. I think Brunson is a good player on a good contract and still has room to improve but not a guy who can consistently get his own. KP just hasn’t been that efficient in the post or off the bounce. He seemed more efficient in the mid range against the Clipper and maybe that’s a harbinger of better things. But he lacks the quicks and explosion that give, say, Anthony Davis his space for wide open mid range shots. He lacks the strength and obviously the vision of Jokic. Hardaway? Seth? They should be 4th, 5th, 6th options. Brunson too.

I think teams are always going to scheme to get the ball out of Lukas hands and luckily we have RC who is crafty enough to counter.. But we desperately need a guy quick off the bounce who can make a team pay and also simply to give Luka some rest from the heavy useage. I like Burke but I worry about having/paying/playing so many small guys without the defensive chops of Lowrey and Van Vleet. With MLE the priority should be big long wings who can guard 3-5. Maybe we get one or two guys like that in the draft? Maybe we don’t love the options in FA and give Burke a chunk of the MLE? I just wonder about committing resources and minutes to Burke if you have already have smallish guards in Brunson and Seth not to mention what happens if we can’t offload Delon? Where will the minutes come from? Maybe we look to move Brunson in the right deal?

I think Burke was/is for us a smaller version of what Utah traded for in Clarkson. They were another team that lacked creators, even pre Bogdan injury. If they think he can give reliably give the team Clarkson like production for half the cost maybe that’s a good value? I think Clarkson gets someone’s MLE or close to it.

Yeah, I buy all of this. I don't know, it could've been a flash in the pan hot streak, but I just have a good feeling about Burke. I just feel like you lock him in and then move some of those other small guys out. But your point is taken, for sure.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by KillerLeft

Yeah, I buy all of this. I don't know, it could've been a flash in the pan hot streak, but I just have a good feeling about Burke. I just feel like you lock him in and then move some of those other small guys out. But your point is taken, for sure.

I still think a trade with the Sixers with Curry and Richardson being the center pieces is something that should be initiated by Donnie. Seems like there could be win-win situation because both players would fill needs of the other team.

They get a much needed veteran shooter and we get a legit 3-D wing who can handle the ball.

Would Curry/#18 for Richardson/#34 or #36 have any chance?

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

I still think a trade with the Sixers with Curry and Richardson being the center pieces is something that should be initiated by Donnie. Seems like there could be win-win situation because both players would fill needs of the other team.

They get a much needed veteran shooter and we get a legit 3-D wing who can handle the ball.

Would Curry/#18 for Richardson/#34 or #36 have any chance?

Could be. There is the variable of new coach in Philly. That could work in our favor or new coach could have a vision for how to use Richardson better.

[tap2390]

No way in hell I give up Curry + 18 for Richardson... I even hesitate to give up Curry alone. Curry + Jackson for Richardson + Thybulle, take it or leave it.

Philly doesn't have a lot of leverage when it comes to trade talks (especially for the statistically best three point shooter in the NBA) and IMO we should do everything in our power to keep #18 and lock up a decent player on a rookie deal.


Edit: Curry basically shot 60/50/100 in the playoffs. His stock is sky high and if we're going to ship him off we should demand a hell of a deal.

[MFFL]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

I still think a trade with the Sixers with Curry and Richardson being the center pieces is something that should be initiated by Donnie. Seems like there could be win-win situation because both players would fill needs of the other team.

They get a much needed veteran shooter and we get a legit 3-D wing who can handle the ball.

Would Curry/#18 for Richardson/#34 or #36 have any chance?

Great prediction. Fortunately the 76ers didn't value Richardson quite as high as you did

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by MFFL

Great prediction. Fortunately the 76ers didn't value Richardson quite as high as you did

Woooooo. Always good news.

Richardson is going to be sick. He's one of the best defenders of PGs/SGs and we got wrecked by both last year.

Plus there's hope that he's actually a decent 3pt shooter when open. Doncic is going to get him some open shots.

[dirt_dobber]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Woooooo. Always good news.

Richardson is going to be sick. He's one of the best defenders of PGs/SGs and we got wrecked by both last year.

Plus there's hope that he's actually a decent 3pt shooter when open. Doncic is going to get him some open shots.

Totally agree about his defense - I always cringed when DFS went off the floor.
Richardson's defense and length really going to help.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by MFFL

Great prediction. Fortunately the 76ers didn't value Richardson quite as high as you did

LOL....yeah I have to admit Donnie is smarter than me at BB.
I would have been ecstatic for a straight up Seth for Richardson deal.