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some-dude · 05-22-2007, 07:59 PM

Northwest Division just got much better.

capitalcity · 05-22-2007, 07:59 PM

Rashard Lewis now available?

jthig32 · 05-22-2007, 08:00 PM

I would classify this as a huge disappointment for the NBA as a whole. Just two more stars that will further imbalance the power towards the West.

StackAttack · 05-22-2007, 08:00 PM

It's very possible Conley Jr., one the draft's best PGs (if not THE best), could be coming to Portland as well, as Oden did hint that he may make a push for whatever team he gets selected by to trade for Conley just to increase his comfort.

fluid.forty.one · 05-22-2007, 08:02 PM

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It's very possible Conley Jr., the draft's best PG, could be coming to Portland as well, as Oden did hint that he may make a push for whatever team he gets selected by to trade for Conley just to increase his comfort.

They are pretty set for young guards though.

Blazers will make the playoffs next year Oden lives up to HALF his hype, and they will be a dynasty unless the Blazers REALLY screw something up.

jthig32 · 05-22-2007, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by StackAttack

It's very possible Conley Jr., one the draft's best PGs (if not THE best), could be coming to Portland as well, as Oden did hint that he may make a push for whatever team he gets selected by to trade for Conley just to increase his comfort.

I'd say they don't really need any more young guards.

I bet Conley doesn't make it past Atlanta.

BGMaverick9 · 05-22-2007, 08:04 PM

yeah, Conley isn't going to Portland. Does boston trade out of the 5 spot now since they didn't get what they ultimately wanted?

fluid.forty.one · 05-22-2007, 08:04 PM

Boston should pick up that Chinese guy if he's still there.

DOMINATOR · 05-22-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by StackAttack

It's very possible Conley Jr., one the draft's best PGs (if not THE best), could be coming to Portland as well, as Oden did hint that he may make a push for whatever team he gets selected by to trade for Conley just to increase his comfort.

actually that could be possible. i have a feeling portland is going to ship randolph whos had some off court issues for some good bench players and possibly conley like you said. plus they have aldridge who took over while randolph was out at end of season.

mary · 05-22-2007, 08:04 PM

**Happy Dance**

Windmill360 · 05-22-2007, 08:08 PM

Durant vs Oden. greatness.

DubOverdose · 05-22-2007, 08:12 PM

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Durant vs Oden. greatness.

4 times a season, at least

V2M · 05-22-2007, 08:51 PM

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Portland is gonna be a dynasty if they don't screw up.

Jarrett Jack
Brandon Roy
Travis Outlaw
Lamarcus Aldridge
Greg Oden

That's a young and extremely talented lineup. If they can trade Randolph and get a solid 6th man or two, they're set for years!

MFFL · 05-22-2007, 09:15 PM

I was REALLY hoping the top two picks were going to go to Eastern teams. This imbalance between East and West is already ridiculous. And now it will get even worse.

Boston screwed again

But I am happy that Atlanta made it into the top 3!

Windmill360 · 05-22-2007, 09:33 PM

How long before Pierce wants out now?

rabbitproof · 05-22-2007, 09:37 PM

I am concerned about my Celtic friend's sanity.

THANK YOU FOR LEAVING US, 1990s!

V2M · 05-22-2007, 09:44 PM

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How long before Pierce wants out now?

Good point... wonder if Dallas could put together a package for him?!

jthig32 · 05-22-2007, 09:46 PM

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Good point... wonder if Dallas could put together a package for him?!

They're going to want a package of young talent and good draft picks. Not sure we have any of that, outside of Harris and Diop I guess.

V2M · 05-22-2007, 10:02 PM

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They're going to want a package of young talent and good draft picks. Not sure we have any of that, outside of Harris and Diop I guess.

Pierce could force the issue though... he's got an ugly contract for the next 5 years and if he's not happy, they'd have no choice but to get rid of him quick!

If Cuban's willing to take back another ugly contract off their hands (Wally?)... essentially giving them monstrous salary relief... they may choose to go into a total rebuilding mode.

Of course, we may still have to throw in a player and a pick...

EDIT: Only problem may be that we don't have too many expiring contracts as we did in previous years... may be do a S&T of Stack/Cro along with Damp/Terry and picks/cash!

rabbitproof · 05-22-2007, 10:07 PM

And people call ME a dreamer.

jthig32 · 05-22-2007, 10:18 PM

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Pierce could force the issue though... he's got an ugly contract for the next 5 years and if he's not happy, they'd have no choice but to get rid of him quick!

If Cuban's willing to take back another ugly contract off their hands (Wally?)... essentially giving them monstrous salary relief... they may choose to go into a total rebuilding mode.

Of course, we may still have to throw in a player and a pick...

EDIT: Only problem may be that we don't have too many expiring contracts as we did in previous years... may be do a S&T of Stack/Cro along with Damp/Terry and picks/cash!

We don't have ANY expiring contracts. And Stack/Cro are almost certainly not going to agree to a snt to the Celtics. Would you?

FINtastic · 05-22-2007, 10:21 PM

I know some people are complaining about the balance of power, but the East has some mega-talented young-uns as well - LeBron, Wade, Arenas, and D-Howard. The East isn't totally hurting for supertalented young players. The real reason that the balance of power is out of whack right now is because all of the talented veterans who have the level of experience necessary to lead the their team to a championship are out West (Duncan, Nash, Dirk, Kobe, Garnett, etc.).

FINtastic · 05-22-2007, 10:24 PM

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We don't have ANY expiring contracts. And Stack/Cro are almost certainly not going to agree to a snt to the Celtics. Would you?

Well Stack was babbling on at one point during the season about wanting to go to a team that would let him be the main guy so he could score 20,000 points. He certainly would increase his chance to do that with the celts.

Tokey41 · 05-22-2007, 10:34 PM

Thats shocking, but it's just a relief that the Suns don't get the Hawks pick. I wonder if they will select Conely with pick #3 or wait and see if they can get him at their next pick (#11).

Unfortunately Oden and Durant landed in the West but at least they are both going to be breathing new life into two franchises that desperately need it. We'll see how it goes, at least it will make the Northwest division matter. I really feel bad for Boston though, I thought for sure they would get a top two pick. Not so much for Memphis though, we don't need any more threats in our division.

FINtastic · 05-22-2007, 11:19 PM

Conley at #3 would be way too high. The sad thing for the Hawks is that there aren't any "can't miss prospects" at point guard this year. They should have taken Deron Williams or Chris Paul at #2 a couple of years ago when they had the chance instead of Marvin Williams. If they had done that, they could have taken Brandan Wright at #3 this year, and they would be sitting a lot prettier than they are right now.

DelNegro · 05-22-2007, 11:36 PM

Atlanta also has the #11 pick. Conley at 11 wouldn't be too high. Horford at 3 and Conley at 11 looks like a pretty good lottery tandem to me.

Flacolaco · 05-22-2007, 11:40 PM

Good job Atlanta!!!

V2M · 05-22-2007, 11:44 PM

Conley at #3 is a reach... but I don't think he'd last until #11 either. I think they should go for Brandan Wright at #3 and Acie Law at #11 (2nd best PG)

DelNegro · 05-22-2007, 11:47 PM

Wright and Law would be another solid tandem. In any case, with two lottery picks the Hawks do have the potential for significant improvement next year. Of course they are the Hawks so that's working against them.

V2M · 05-22-2007, 11:58 PM

I hope they get into playoffs next year so the Suns don't get a lottery pick...

FINtastic · 05-23-2007, 12:03 AM

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Conley at #3 is a reach... but I don't think he'd last until #11 either. I think they should go for Brandan Wright at #3 and Acie Law at #11 (2nd best PG)

I would definitely take Wright at #3 if Atlanta decides to go for the best available player route. I think Wright is going to be a really good player in this league. However, Atlanta already has Shelden Williams and Marvin Williams (who is somewhat similar to Brandan) that they have invested high picks in and are fairly young. The big problem is that most of the players that are worthy of drafting at #3 are SFs and PFs, which Atlanta already has plenty of. I wonder if Atlanta would consider a trade. I'm thinking trading down a few spots to snag Conley would be their best bet because I'm not sure he slides down to #11, and Atlanta needs a quality point guard in the worst of ways.

Dtownsfinest · 05-23-2007, 01:05 AM

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I hope they get into playoffs next year so the Suns don't get a lottery pick...

Worst case scenario is ATL is horrible and the Suns somehow end up with OJ Mayo. I pray that shit doesn't happen. People talk about the Blazers but if ATL drafts correctly they have a solid group of young guys. Childress, Smith, Williams, Joe Johnson... I mean they have a solid list of guys as well and that's minus their 2 picks this year.

FINtastic · 05-23-2007, 01:22 AM

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Worst case scenario is ATL is horrible and the Suns somehow end up with OJ Mayo. I pray that shit doesn't happen. People talk about the Blazers but if ATL drafts correctly they have a solid group of young guys. Childress, Smith, Williams, Joe Johnson... I mean they have a solid list of guys as well and that's minus their 2 picks this year.

I actually pray that the Suns do get OJ Mayo. That dude is a headcase and when you add him into the bad chemistry the Suns seem to have right now, you are looking at an explosion.

dirno2000 · 05-23-2007, 01:24 AM

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Worst case scenario is ATL is horrible and the Suns somehow end up with OJ Mayo. I pray that shit doesn't happen. People talk about the Blazers but if ATL drafts correctly they have a solid group of young guys. Childress, Smith, Williams, Joe Johnson... I mean they have a solid list of guys as well and that's minus their 2 picks this year.

Based on what I've read about that kid's additude that may not be the worst thing. Definitly better than them ending up with Corey Brewer or Mike Connely.

FINtastic · 05-23-2007, 01:34 AM

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Based on what I've read about that kid's additude that may not be the worst thing. Definitly better than them ending up with Corey Brewer or Mike Connely.

Yeah, Brewer on the Suns would have been pretty scary. He's made for that kind of system. And Horford wouldn't have been a bad pick either, especially grooming him under Kurt Thomas who he shares some similarities with.

Plus, you have to consider that the Suns window isn't going to be open for much longer as Nash can't have that many more years left as an elite player. So pushing back the pick a year is going to work out great from the Mavs' perspective no matter how you slice it.

nashtymavsfan13 · 05-23-2007, 01:44 AM

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Based on what I've read about that kid's additude that may not be the worst thing. Definitly better than them ending up with Corey Brewer or Mike Connely.

Exactly. Things worked out very well for the Mavs. I'd have prefered Oden and Durant going to the East, but at least the Suns don't get a lottery pick in one of the deepest drafts that there;s been for awhile.

Dirkenstien · 05-23-2007, 08:17 AM

Wonderful scenario for the Mavs. I'm happy for Portland fans too; they've been through a lot of crud and deserve a nice breath of hope and excitement again.

V2M · 05-23-2007, 08:39 AM

Pacers don't have a 1st round pick... JON's gotta' be even more desperate now to get outta' there!

MascisMan · 05-23-2007, 09:16 AM

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Jarrett Jack
Brandon Roy
Travis Outlaw
Lamarcus Aldridge
Greg Oden

That's a young and extremely talented lineup. If they can trade Randolph and get a solid 6th man or two, they're set for years!

This is a great point. You know who is DYING for a post player that has a great 6man? Chicago.

Portland trades Randolph to Chicago for Gordon and someone/draft pick.

PG: Jack
SG: Roy
SF: Outlaw
PF: Aldridge
C: Oden
6: Ben Gordon

Chicago possibly picks up Brewer at number 9.

PG: Hinrich
SG: Nocioni
SF: Deng
PF: Randolph
C: Wallace
6: Brewer

nikeball · 05-23-2007, 09:23 AM

Gordon isnt a 6th man anymore?