With the #3 pick (!) in the 2018 draft, the Mavs get Luka Doncic - Page 2 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

NeedlesKane · 06-21-2018, 08:23 PM

What I really expect to read... Dwight Howard signs with Golden State Warriors.

GhostFace · 06-21-2018, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

LMAO

Dirk just became a dad at 40

First time ever seeing Erica doing a LMAO. Usually she is all business

Triple D · 06-21-2018, 09:21 PM

Good evening guys, I'm new here. I've been following the Mavs and Nowitzki for a long time and I decided to register in the day we got the best diamond since Dirk. Luka Dončić is a formidable player. This move will lead us to many happy days! Best day for this franchise since 12 June 2011.

Cheers!

Underdog · 06-21-2018, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple D

Good evening guys, I'm new here. I've been following the Mavs and Nowitzki for a long time and I decided to register in the day we got the best diamond since Dirk. Luka Dončić is a formidable player. This move will lead us to many happy days! Best day for this franchise since 12 June 2011.

Cheers!

Welcome!

Dtownsfinest · 06-21-2018, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Aren't those two statements contradictory?

No one takes Young over Doncic but they were bluffing when they said they wanted Doncic?

I have to believe they were. If you felt Doncic was the better player would you take Trae Young?

EricaLubarsky · 06-21-2018, 11:06 PM

Luka Doncic
Jaylen Brunson
Ray Spalding
Kostas Antetokounmpo

Underdog · 06-21-2018, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Luka Doncic
Jaylen Brunson
Ray Spalding
Kostas Antetokounmpo

Is that correct? Did we make a trade?? Where did the extra pick come from???

Skywalker · 06-21-2018, 11:10 PM

@bobbykaralla

Luka Doncic will wear No. 77. Jalen Brunson will wear No. 13.

EricaLubarsky · 06-21-2018, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Is that correct? Did we make a trade?? Where did the extra pick come from???

Traded 54 (Milton) for 56 and 60
@bobbykaralla
The Mavs have acquired the draft rights to Ray Spalding and Kostas Antetokounmpo in exchange for the draft rights to Shake Milton.

blessednegr0 · 06-21-2018, 11:36 PM

Erica, if this is right.... This is the best draft I have ever seen as a Mavericks fan. I was happy with Doncic at 3/5. Jesus... The night just keeps getting better! Bring in Boogie!!!! I know he is a pain in the ass but you can't deny his skill. I think they finally trade Wes, and let Set be the player off the bench... But Jesus the Mavericks just had a great draft.

EricaLubarsky · 06-21-2018, 11:44 PM

I know we have a ton of PGs, but Brunson is a winner. BBIQ off the charts. Super efficient. Great size at 6'3". Not super athletic but somehow gets it done. Dominant post play for a guard. Reminds me of Deron Williams-- but smarter and not a douchenozzle.

We may be the least athletic team in the league, but smart players get it done.

spreedom · 06-21-2018, 11:44 PM

I can't imagine having a better draft than this. I'd say let's just go balls-out this summer and sign the best players we can that will take two years or fewer and see if we can make the playoffs, but I think I'd rather we look at complementary types (i.e. shooters, defenders, rebounders) that will give us good pieces in aiding the development of DSJ and Doncic. I wouldn't be mad if we got a third helping of Tyson Chandler next year (maybe even extending him for cheap for a 2nd year) because you know, despite his diminishing athleticism, he's still a great leader on and off the court and won't make mistakes or teach bad habits. Seems like the kind of big they could learn a lot from.

If we don't go either the first route (i.e. Boogie for 2 years) or second route (Tyson), I really, really want us to throw a max offer at Capela at 12:01AM on July 1st. He would be the very best long-term fit next to DSJ/Doncic.

(Just realized I'm way more buzzed than I expected to be at this time, since I was prepared to see us draft Bamba, so sorry if that stuff wasn't coherent but TBH I lowkey just want Tyson back)

Harpospoke · 06-21-2018, 11:47 PM

Was kinda hoping they would go all in an try for the 4th and 5th picks. That's worth giving up next year's #1 and a player or two.

But ESPN seems to think the Mavs "won the draft". We'll see.

spreedom · 06-21-2018, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I know we have a ton of PGs, but Brunson is a winner. BBIQ off the charts. Super efficient. Great size. Dominant post play for a guard. Reminds me of Deron Williams-- but smarter and not a douchenozzle.

https://twitter.com/DuncanSmithNBA/s...28390921539585

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@DuncanSmithNBA
This is Jalen Brunson from Villanova

Synergy loves him as an offensive player!

Luka's for comparison:

EricaLubarsky · 06-21-2018, 11:56 PM

96th percentile in PnR-- one of the major plays in the NBA.

96th in ISOs

98th in posts

Dude is built like Kidd/Deron Williams with the intellect of both. Might not be an elite defender and rebounder like Kidd, but I like the move for a second rounder.

satrekker · 06-22-2018, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

96th percentile in PnR-- one of the major plays in the NBA.

96th in ISOs

98th in posts

Adequate athleticism and A+ intelligence for defense. I think he could be a quality player.

I hope you are right, and I'll root for him, but imo the draft was anti-climactic. This was the deepest draft in years, and the Mavs paid a very high price for Doncik, which will hopefully be worth it, but then did absolutely NOTHING until their next pick at 33 in the 2nd round. Then they took a PG! WTH?! At least take a SG if you're gonna spend the pick on a guard! There were way too many other talented players still available who could've filled other glaring holes in the Mav's roster that could've been selected instead of drafting yet another guard.

I think towards the end that even the MBT realized that they had failed to take full advantage of the talent available in this draft, so they ended up scrambling and trading pick 54 for two others... 56 and 60. Yeah, the numbers in the end seem nice - 4 draftees, but the total talent haul was nowhere near what it should have been, and THAT is extremely disappointing to me.

Wonder boy · 06-22-2018, 12:09 AM

Hey Mavs fans ! I'm from sLOVEnia and I cheer for Dončić. And today I officially became Mavs fan. I've been closely watching Dončić since he started playin in Real at age of 16 (2years ago). I've watched him play in person in Madrid. He's incredible kid with great court vision, "feeling" for basketball. Can't wait to see him play for Mavs. I'm really really happy to see him here as Mavs organisations is 1 of the best in league (I'm watching NBA since I was a kid.. waking up in the middle of the night and watch Jordan beat Jazz

). I like your coach, owner who takes care of players, Nowitzki obviously. Anyway I'm happy Dončić joined ya and can't wait to see him play in NBA ! Cheerz !

edit; I plan to visit Dallas next season. Obviously cuz of Wonder boy

Bryan_Wilson · 06-22-2018, 12:10 AM

Brunson shot chart

Bryan_Wilson · 06-22-2018, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonder boy

Hey Mavs fans ! I'm from sLOVEnia and I cheer for Dončić. And today I officially became Mavs fan. I've been closely watching Dončić since he started playin in Real at age of 16 (2years ago). I've watched him play in person in Madrid. He's incredible kid with great court vision, "feeling" for basketball. Can't wait to see him play for Mavs. I'm really really happy to see him here as Mavs organisations is 1 of the best in league (I'm watching NBA since I was a kid.. waking up in the middle of the night and watch Jordan beat Jazz

). I like your coach, owner who takes care of players, Nowitzki obviously. Anyway I'm happy Dončić joined ya and can't wait to see him play in NBA ! Cheerz !

edit; I plan to visit Dallas next season. Obviously cuz of Wonder boy

Welcome aboard!

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2018, 12:19 AM

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Brunson shot chart

Damn, dude owns the left side

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2018, 01:16 AM

https://youtu.be/y4B5HxQu9TY

Dimedrop has Doncic 2 (but the best prospect)

Brunson 30th

Good comments on both

GermanStandard · 06-22-2018, 01:23 AM

Mavs probably in the Center Market in FA lol. Just hope its not Cousins. Hes Career is over. Will never be the same Player.

Bryan_Wilson · 06-22-2018, 03:38 AM

Dirk was 14 games into his rookie season when Doncic was born.

sefant77 · 06-22-2018, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Remember when we got screwed in the draft? We were third and ended up drafting 5th?

It cost us a future first

If lottery goes normal The Grizz take Luka at #1. Suns Ayton at #2...and then we reach for Bamba...

Melonhead · 06-22-2018, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Much as I hate Howard, he's now just a vet that does his job. Put up 17-13-2 and is getting paid no matter what with the buyout and fully guaranteed money. I could see giving him 9-14mill for one year just to keep us

Word out of Charlotte was the entire team was
Tired of his bullshit.

tap2390 · 06-22-2018, 10:09 AM

I'm still in shock. Mavs had their eyes on the prize and make an aggressive move up to go get him, without giving up too much. Would not have been possible had the Hawks not had their hearts set on Trae Young, but I still give the Mavs mad props. Good day for the franchise.

BPo001 · 06-22-2018, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

I'm still in shock. Mavs had their eyes on the prize and make an aggressive move up to go get him, without giving up too much. Would not have been possible had the Hawks not had their hearts set on Trae Young, but I still give the Mavs mad props. Good day for the franchise.

They gave up next year first with pretty low protections. You don't think that's giving up a lot? I'm not saying it was a bad move, but giving up a future 1st when you're in a rebuild is pretty substantial iMO.

tap2390 · 06-22-2018, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

They gave up next year first with pretty low protections. You don't think that's giving up a lot? I'm not saying it was a bad move, but giving up a future 1st when you're in a rebuild is pretty substantial iMO.

I agree that the 2019 pick shouldn’t be discounted. I think, however, the way the league is headed, to get the most skilled wing to come along in arguably a decade at the cost of a pick in the 10-20 range in a weak draft is absolutely a steal. People had this class pegged as a generational class for a while, and then Bagley reclassified and made it even more talent-rich. Doncic goes number one overall next year. Doncic goes number one overall last year. The combination of talent and the draft order just so happened to make this possible for us this year, and we pounced.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-22-2018, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

They gave up next year first with pretty low protections. You don't think that's giving up a lot? I'm not saying it was a bad move, but giving up a future 1st when you're in a rebuild is pretty substantial iMO.

I completely agree, but at the same time I really don't want to start looking forward to the draft again in November. It's months of waiting for a single name to be mentioned at a podium while you watch your team tank and lose the entire season.

Now we can just focus on winning.

Me.B · 06-22-2018, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

They gave up next year first with pretty low protections. You don't think that's giving up a lot? I'm not saying it was a bad move, but giving up a future 1st when you're in a rebuild is pretty substantial iMO.

Next year’s draft is really weak, maybe only 4-5 guys with starting potential. If you’re going to give up a 1st round pick next year is the year to do it. The Mavs just need to do their best to win so that it’s as low a pick as possible.

Skywalker · 06-22-2018, 05:14 PM

Skywalker · 06-22-2018, 05:17 PM

Fin is 6'7 right? He seems a little bit taller so I guess legit 6'8?

Dtownsfinest · 06-22-2018, 06:48 PM

Yeah i'm a little shocked because on tape Doncic looks about 6'5 or 6'6 to me but here.....he has a inch or two on Fin......

Me.B · 06-22-2018, 08:13 PM

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Fin is 6'7 right? He seems a little bit taller so I guess legit 6'8?

Fin is 6’6” I believe. Every report about Doncic I’ve read says he’s 6’8”. And I believe in Europe they measure their players without shoes unlike in the U.S.

NeedlesKane · 06-22-2018, 08:46 PM

In the U.S. players are measured with shoes on?! I'm even taller than I realized then. I'd be like 6' 5" to 6' 6" depending on the shoes.

NeedlesKane · 06-22-2018, 08:57 PM

Let's say that he's the best player in his position over the course of a decade. How many players would you say that he is worth then? Let's say he's today's Jordan. How many stars would you trade for Jordan? I say we didn't give away too much based off what we've seen so far from his play in Europe. Hope I'm right!

Also I had no idea that we had 3 2nd round picks. Pretty awesome! Really wonder what our roster will look like next year. Who will make the roster, and who will be developed elsewhere?

Underdog · 06-22-2018, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

Also I had no idea that we had 3 2nd round picks. Pretty awesome! Really wonder what our roster will look like next year. Who will make the roster, and who will be developed elsewhere?

We actually only had 2 picks, but we traded 54 for 56 and 60.

NeedlesKane · 06-22-2018, 10:38 PM

Underdog, I read that we also had the 33rd pick. Is that wrong? And I meant after the trade, getting us 2 more.

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2018, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

Underdog, I read that we also had the 33rd pick. Is that wrong? And I meant after the trade, getting us 2 more.

5 (3) - Doncic
33 - Brunson
54 (56) - Spalding
54 (60) - Antetokounmpo

Underdog · 06-23-2018, 06:41 AM

What EL said... We traded up when it mattered (quality), then we traded down when it mattered (quantity). We played this draft smart.