Official GDT - Cowboys vs Steelers!

[Underdog]

[BGMaverick9]

Geez...when will the injuries end?

Has anything been updated with Barber yet?

[Flacolaco]

Reindeer penis.

[Caseman]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

Reindeer penis.

This needed to be quoted.

[alby]

^ Family message board.

[DirkFTW]

^^LOL, I am honored to have Flaco as a mod.

[FINtastic]

Uh oh...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3763209

Sources: T.O.'s expressed resentment toward Romo
By Ed Werder
ESPN.com


According to multiple sources within the Dallas Cowboys, there is an emerging internal conflict involving three of the team's highest-profile stars.


As the preseason Super Bowl favorites struggle in the final month of the season to simply make the playoffs, wide receiver Terrell Owens has expressed resentment toward Tony Romo, apparently jealous of the quarterback's relationship with tight end Jason Witten.

Owens feels that Romo and Witten -- close friends and road roommates who came to Dallas in the same offseason -- hold private meetings in which they create plays the two will use in upcoming games without including Owens in the conversations, according to a source who speaks regularly with Owens' teammates. Owens believes these discussions have worked to his detriment as Romo seeks to deliver the ball to Witten regardless of whether Owens is open.

"I don't know anything about that," Wade Phillips said when asked about a possible rift at his news conference on Thursday.



"We've thrown for a lot of yards with a lot of players. One receiver is pretty close to 1,000 yards. ... There's no favoritism there, we are going to the guy that is going to be open."


Owens declined to discuss the situation on Thursday outside the Cowboys' locker room. As he walked toward the players' lounge at Valley Ranch, ESPN asked Owens if he would answer questions and he said, "Nope.''


Linebacker Bradie James acknowledged to ESPN that his status as one of the team captains has caused him to play a peacemaker role between Romo and Owens.

Mosley:

Cowboys wide receivers Terrell Owens, Roy Williams and Patrick Crayton requested and were granted a meeting with offensive coordinator Jason Garrett to express their concern that quarterback Tony Romo was relying too heavily on close friend and Pro Bowl tight end Jason Witten. blog.

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"Whenever the fire gets blazing, I know,'' James said. "Sometimes, I don't want to step on anybody's toes, but we all talk.


"It just is what it is ... It's just two different guys, two different personalities and they know what's at stake. They know that everybody needs them. And there's no dislike. It's just sometimes, not everybody is going to see eye to eye. That's what makes a football team.''



A current Cowboys player compared Owens' behavior to that which led to problems with his former quarterbacks, Jeff Garcia in San Francisco and Donovan McNabb in Philadelphia. Those failed relationships and problems with the head coaches and other teammates led to Owens' exile from those teams and made him available to Dallas owner Jerry Jones in 2006.

"He's insecure about it,'' the player said of Owens. "The thing that bothers me more than anything about this problem is that it's always something with him -- San Fran, Philly and here, always something. And he brings other people into it. You know, he talks to Sam Hurd and Roy Williams, who just got here and doesn't really know these guys. T.O. talks to him and so now he probably thinks Witten politics with Tony for the ball.

"That's so far from the truth. You think Tony is throwing to him because that's his buddy? His best buddy is Bobby Carpenter, and that's not helping him too much. It's crazy to think that, and I hate that he acts that way.''

Witten leads the Cowboys with 64 receptions to 55 for Owens, who has a team-high 848 receiving yards and nine touchdowns. According to one of the sources, Owens cannot fathom how Romo and offensive coordinator Jason Garrett justify the tight end having more catches than Owens even though the latter ranks among the most accomplished receivers in NFL history.

There has so far been no known confrontation between Romo and Owens, who have combined for 33 touchdowns since 2006, the most of any quarterback-receiver tandem in the NFL during that time. Romo has always been careful to make certain Owens felt appreciated so that he would compete hard and not cause the kind of upheaval he did with his previous teams.

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But one teammate suggested Romo is frustrated enough that he might initiate a different approach, although not the confrontational kind that some believe might solve the problem.

"To be completely honest, I just think Tony is over it, not like, 'Screw it.' But I think Tony is over the mind games,'' the player said. "It would help if Tony would stand up to him, but he would never do it. He does a great job of ignoring it and not letting it affect him, and that's why it has worked as good as it has. It's just hard. I think right now everybody is to the point where, 'We're going to need him, so let's not piss him off.'"

But Owens seems to be finding it increasingly difficult to conceal his irritation. Last week in Pittsburgh, on the first possession of the Cowboys' most important game of the season, a team source who reviewed the game tape said Romo threw an interception when Owens mysteriously failed to complete his route. Troy Polamalu intercepted the ball at the place where Romo expected Owens to be. Later in the half, Romo underthrew a pass for Owens that was intercepted by Ike Taylor and Owens gestured openly in Romo's direction as he walked toward the sideline that the ball should have been thrown further upfield.

But what upset Owens' teammates most of all was his response to the interception Romo threw on a pass intended for Witten that Deshea Townsend returned for the game-winning touchdown in a 20-13 defeat. Both the quarterback and tight end publicly accepted blame for the Cowboys' season-high fifth turnover. In contrast, Owens said the offense stunk, that the team can't win with turnovers like those and then suggested his defender was playing off in single coverage and that he was open but Romo decided to throw elsewhere on the fatal play.

On the sideline, Owens was seen yelling at a Cowboys assistant coach. In his news conference after the game, Owens implied that Romo's decision to throw to Witten was the wrong one, saying, "It's his job to go out there and assess what the defense is, and he made that decision.''

That incensed some Cowboys, one of whom said, "If you only knew all that guy does. It's gonna go down with him before it's all over with. He is unbelievable. Tough loss and he does that?''

Until then, Cowboys insiders considered Owens' most damaging behavior the interview he did with former Cowboys cornerback Deion Sanders on the NFL Network in which he suggested Dallas' offensive system under Garrett was responsible for his worst statistical season since his rookie year with the 49ers. Owens also hinted that Romo and the other Dallas quarterbacks who played when the starter was injured were not making getting him the ball a high enough priority. "I can't throw it and catch it,'' Owens said.

At least one prominent Cowboys player was displeased that the coaching staff responded to the criticism by seemingly placating Owens in that Sunday's game against San Francisco, allowing him enough opportunities that he posted his best statistical line as a Cowboy: seven catches for 213 yards, including a 75-yard TD.

"Well, T.O. got his way,'' the player said. "It never fails how we operate around here. Drives me crazy, but what can you do?''

Phillips justified Owens' argument by agreeing that getting him the ball needed to be the first offensive priority, and then owner Jerry Jones further empowered him by claiming he had no issue with anything Owens said in the interview.

Said another source: "What do you think he said after he complained about not getting the ball and then in the San Francisco game he gets 213? He said, 'Look. It works. The more hell I raise, the more I get what I want.'"

Owens in March signed a four-year contract extension worth $34 million, including a $12.9 million signing bonus to bind him to the Cowboys through the 2011 season.

When asked if Romo and Owens were all right together as the team prepares to play the defending Super Bowl champion New York Giants on Sunday, James said, "Yeah. It's gotta be. It better be.''

The latest controversy comes toward the end of a season that began with Owens saying in training camp that he shared a relationship with Romo that he never had with other quarterbacks with whom he played. That, Owens said, was because Romo knew he was the star of the Cowboys and was not threatened by Owens' status as were previous quarterbacks.

"I guess sometimes I've just been in situations where the quarterbacks felt like I was bigger than them,'' Owens said in July. "And, you know, that was never the case. I felt like whatever I did complemented the quarterback, whatever he did, vice versa. It's just been a situation where things happen, where things didn't work out.''

Romo seemed equally at peace with Owens. "The thing about it is there's a genuine caring about each other. I actually want the guy to succeed. He works hard, he works his butt off. And he cares about the guys, so it's easy to root for a guy like that.

"It's important for us to be on the same page. It's important for us to care about the other one, just because our success is directly related. ... The thing you notice mostly about him is that he talks about 'team' a lot. He wants to win. He understands that, at this stage of his career, he's done all the things individually he can do. Now, it's just a matter of winning.''

Whether it is like that anymore -- and whether the Cowboys can achieve their own stated goals with the relationship between Owens and Romo and Witten being what it is now -- remains to be determined.

Since Romo became Dallas' starter, he has completed more passes to Witten than to Owens, 201-186, although Owens has significantly more yards and three times as many touchdowns.

"You really want to address it with him and say, "Are you serious? Let's cut the s---. But we're trying to win our way into the playoffs and, if something like that happened, if you backed him into a corner, he'd be pissed off and try to fight you or something,'' the current Cowboys player said. "So what do you do? Let it go? Then you're just like everybody else. If he's got a problem and he's upset, clear the air. He should know that everything we do on offense goes through him."

Ed Werder covers the NFL for ESPN. ESPN.com's NFL reporter Matt Mosley contributed to this report.

[Underdog]

The East Coast Media still prays that T.O. will ruin the Cowboys...

[FINtastic]

Well, I guess it's only a matter of time until we see TO doing shirtless situps in his driveway.

[Windmill360]

Ed Werder

[Flacolaco]

Say what you want about werder...but I don't think he's making up those quotes from "sources" or anonymous players or whatever it is.

[FINtastic]

All I know is that there are a lot of distractions right now for a team going into what might be its most important game of the season.

[BGMaverick9]

I know it's cliche to say...but this is not the greatest time in the world for this junk to come out in the media. Like FIN said, this is now the most important game of the year and this distention is terrible. This does validate my thought of TO being a major headache and I can't stand his antics and for the most part he just always needed to shut up and play football.

[ty]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

This does validate my thought of TO being a major headache and I can't stand his antics and for the most part he just always needed to shut up and play football.

Why?

I love TO.

I don't think he's wrong to say he deserves the ball. Sure, the media inflates it quite a bit, but when it comes down to it...he needs to get the d*mn ball in his hands.

Sure he's the most thrown to, but those throws aren't always.....on target. In fact, a bunch of them are way way off.

From what I've seen this year, TO has still got it in him. He needs the ball in his hands to be a playmaker.

I'm gonna put myself on the limb and say he is one of our top 3 players.

Also, I would definitely be pissed if I had the talent, size, athleticism, and speed that he has and I wasn't getting that involved too.

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by ty

Why?

I love TO.

I don't think he's wrong to say he deserves the ball. Sure, the media inflates it quite a bit, but when it comes down to it...he needs to get the d*mn ball in his hands.

Sure he's the most thrown to, but those throws aren't always.....on target. In fact, a bunch of them are way way off.

From what I've seen this year, TO has still got it in him. He needs the ball in his hands to be a playmaker.

I'm gonna put myself on the limb and say he is one of our top 3 players.

Also, I would definitely be pissed if I had the talent, size, athleticism, and speed that he has and I wasn't getting that involved too.

There is plenty I could say about this, but I don't want to go on a long-winded tangent about it. He is a playmaker no doubt and TO, the player, can be very great...but TO, off the field, can be a major problem.

The media may inflate the issues, but he can only blame himself for that. He's had past instances where he has made things bigger than they need to be and they've ended poorly. He hasn't done enough to fix his image to help deflect those molehills turning into mountains of trouble.

[ty]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

There is plenty I could say about this, but I don't want to go on a long-winded tangent about it. He is a playmaker no doubt and TO, the player, can be very great...but TO, off the field, can be a major problem.

The media may inflate the issues, but he can only blame himself for that. He's had past instances where he has made things bigger than they need to be and they've ended poorly. He hasn't done enough to fix his image to help deflect those molehills turning into mountains of trouble.

He has stayed quiet for 3/4ths of the season. Things obviously haven't changed in the way they get him involved.....except against low tier teams of course...

How pissed would you be to have 3 catches in a VERY important game? I'd be incredibly peed off.

Regarding the media--it's not just TO and his past. It's the Cowboys. Any story around the team makes big news. We're the most followed NFL team in the world. Things are definitely inflated more than they really are.

[Murphy3]

Originally Posted by ty

Why?

I love TO.

I don't think he's wrong to say he deserves the ball. Sure, the media inflates it quite a bit, but when it comes down to it...he needs to get the d*mn ball in his hands.

Sure he's the most thrown to, but those throws aren't always.....on target. In fact, a bunch of them are way way off.

From what I've seen this year, TO has still got it in him. He needs the ball in his hands to be a playmaker.

I'm gonna put myself on the limb and say he is one of our top 3 players.

Also, I would definitely be pissed if I had the talent, size, athleticism, and speed that he has and I wasn't getting that involved too.

Here's the problem with TO's whining.

1. He gets the ball thrown his way more than any other player on the team.
2. For a big guy, he really doesn't fight for the ball well. He needs to separate more than many other bigger receivers.. much moreso than a guy like Michael Irvin ever did...
3. For a big guy, he really doesn't do a great job of getting off the line of scrimmage.
4. You can't always trust him to finish routes. The first interception probably could have been prevented if TO just finishes the route. Instead, he gave up on it giving the Steelers an easy interception.

For a great receiver, he has a ton of warts ON the field and off. He does an amazing job once he catches the ball. But, at this stage of his career, he's just not doing as much to get open as he did in his younger years.

[alby]

I agree with ty here. You can hate TO all you want, but the things he can do on the field are unquestioned. His work ethic is unquestioned. There is a reason why the other defense completely gears towards his side of the field each time they snap the ball. He needs the ball to contribute. Jordan was Jordan because he took every shot at the end of the game. Kobe is Kobe because he takes every shot in the game. Emmitt was Emmitt because he got every carry in the 4th quarter.

The sad thing about BSPN is that anything that comes out of TO's mouth, they are going to spin it into a story. BSPN has gotten to the point where they are making so much money, they can do whatever they want. They turn out stories out of their asses every single day, when all they need to do is give us the damn scores and update us on player movement and injuries. People relate BSPN to CNN or something, and that is fundemantally wrong.

[ty]

Originally Posted by alby

His work ethic is unquestioned.

Yup. This is why I love him so much, no matter what the media says.

He not only plays hiss ass off, but he also practices his ass off. He doesn't make excuses outside of the game.

Now if he were an idiot that thought he was too good for all that (and we've seen plenty of other superstars that have this mentality), then I would get on his case for it.

Fact is, the guy is a player come practice or game time.

[alby]

With that being said, no Plax no Jacobs. If Dallas loses, they don't deserve anything this year.

[BGMaverick9]

Again, I don't dislike him as a player, I agree on everything that was said between you and alby about the work ethic and when it comes to game-time. I just dislike his off the field tactics.

As for the media and the fact it's the Cowboys, I agree on that...but what's the excuse for the Eagles and the 49ers?

[ty]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Again, I don't dislike him as a player, I just dislike his off the field tactics.

As for the media and the fact it's the Cowboys, I agree on that...but what's the excuse for the Eagles and the 49ers?

Can't fret on the past. History is history.

I guess guess it depends on your willingness to give him another chance and believe that he has changed.

The media obviously isn't giving him one and doesn't believe a bit of that. =/

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by ty

Can't fret on the past. History is history.

I guess guess it depends on your willingness to give him another chance and believe that he has changed.

The media obviously isn't giving him one and doesn't believe a bit of that. =/

He can definitely try to change it though, I will agree again that the media isn't willing to tag along on that ride.

Though, based on his history...you can't exactly give him a long leash.

[ty]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

He can definitely try to change it though, I will agree again that the media isn't willing to tag along on that ride.

Though, based on his history...you can't exactly give him a long leash.

Honestly, I don't think your opinion or mine really matters. There's only one remedy to all this BS.

Win.

[DirkFTW]

Originally Posted by ty

Honestly, I don't think your opinion or mine really matters. There's only one remedy to all this BS.

Win.

Amen! Wine solves all of life's problems!

Ohhh... win

[Underdog]

[FINtastic]

So apparently ESPN is now reporting that Witten and TO got into a confrontation on Friday.

And the wheels continue to come off...

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3767580

[BGMaverick9]

He better not have called him a poopie-head...that would set ANYONE off.

[FINtastic]

I do love the "TO called Witten a name" part. Why do all these stories sound like they are describing a 3rd grade playground fight?

[mary]

I agree that the wheels are coming off, but it doesn't seem like a big deal to me that two guys exchanged words and had to be separated. I would think that happens all the time.

[DirkFTW]

F...

Sounds like some guys need to just hug it out.

[ty]

"Hug it out, b*tch."

[Flacolaco]

27-17 Cowboys today. Book it.

The Giants are wilting at the right time. And the Cowboys will take advantage of an opportunity completely handed to them without any real effort. I see no reason that dallas can't make the super bowl. The NFC is ripe for the mediocre picking.

[alby]

overblown

[mavspwnage]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4xSSSH0x1c

[FINtastic]

Anyone else find it a little cheap that Yahoo! is using this picture on the front page?



I mean I realize he's causing trouble within the locker room, but I don't know if I would go that far. . .

[mavspwnage]

TO is a ninja!!

[alby]

the media at its finest.