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Thomas86 · 11-12-2010, 05:13 PM

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The enigmatic swingman's future with the Bobcats is a tricky read. For multiple reasons.

Besides the two years and $19.3 million left on his contract after this season, which some teams would balk at, Jackson is said to be a favorite of new majority owner Michael Jordan after arriving last November from Golden State and teaming with Gerald Wallace to power the Bobcats into the postseason for the first time in franchise history.

But Larry Brown's fondness for Jackson, by contrast, has been in question since opening night, when the Bobcats' 70-year-old coach stunningly benched his co-captain for the entire fourth quarter of a game in Dallas that was still as close as nine points inside the final six minutes. Jackson fumed after Charlotte's eventual 101-86 defeat -- and there haven't been any repeat benchings -- but one rival GM said Thursday night that he believes the 32-year-old is "gettable" largely because these two strong wills are bound to keep clashing.

Sources told ESPN.com that San Antonio flirted with reacquiring the playoff-tested Jackson during the offseason ... and that Brown didn't oppose Jackson's departure. If that's not a sufficient hint, multiple sources consulted this week told ESPN.com that Wallace is generally regarded as Charlotte's only untouchable.

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mavs777 · 11-12-2010, 08:34 PM

Butler for Jackson straight up

sefant77 · 11-12-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Butler for Jackson straight up

Just straight at deadline if there isnt any other trade availabe

41mvp · 11-12-2010, 10:24 PM

why not!!!

twistaeffect2004 · 11-13-2010, 04:27 AM

I despise his contract. He is a much better fit than Butler though.

mac222b · 11-13-2010, 04:48 AM

i don't think his contract is prohibitively bad. in that final year he's your 6th or 7th man. the thing i'd like about having S-Jax is that attitude and his willingness to take and make big shots. reminds me a bit of Stack in that way. also like Stack he can tend to be somewhat trigger happy and jacks up some dumb shots. it's a trade off. if Iggy, or something better, isn't available i'd think you'd have to do it straight up for Caron.

sike · 11-13-2010, 12:45 PM

if the option is keeping a struggling Butler or swapping for a serviceable SJAX, I'm in.

He is a MUCH better 2 than Butler. Kidd/SJAX/Marion/Dirk/Chandler with Terry, Roddy, and Haywood off the bench is stout.

kg_veteran · 11-13-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

if the option is keeping a struggling Butler or swapping for a serviceable SJAX, I'm in.

He is a MUCH better 2 than Butler. Kidd/SJAX/Marion/Dirk/Chandler with Terry, Roddy, and Haywood off the bench is stout.

I really don't care for Jackson, but I'd make that trade.

I don't know if Cuban would.

Underdog · 11-13-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

if the option is keeping a struggling Butler or swapping for a serviceable SJAX, I'm in.

He is a MUCH better 2 than Butler. Kidd/SJAX/Marion/Dirk/Chandler with Terry, Roddy, and Haywood off the bench is stout.

Agreed - I'd do that trade straight-up in a heartbeat.

I think Captain Jack's energy and attitude would fit in better with the new identity that Chandler has injected into the Mavs. He can be just as streaky of a shooter as Butler, but he's far less hesitant to attack the paint and he's actually a pretty good post player against smaller defenders. He's also an excellent perimeter defender and a much better passer than Butler. He's not a great rebounder, but this team is hardly lacking in great rebounders...

Trading for SJax isn't necessarily going to put us over the top, but he might be the best upgrade available and he certainly would make this team better.

sike · 11-13-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Trading for SJax isn't necessarily going to put us over the top, but he might be the best upgrade available and he certainly would make this team better.

Then again, sometimes its the unforeseen moves that make the most difference. (Ala the Chandler acquisition).

I could see the addition of SJAX being a huge move to further toughen up this team. The more players the Mavs can have that just won't back down from anyone, the better. The only issue is what does this do to Roddy's minutes?

A line of Kidd/SJAX/Marion/Chandler is suffocating.

Underdog · 11-13-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

The only issue is what does this do to Roddy's minutes?

If he can learn to run the point:

Kidd/Roddy
SJax/Terry
Marion/SJax
Dirk/Marion
Chandler/Haywood

That's a squad that could make some noise in the playoffs...

Not that Roddy would be putting all his time in at PG, but we could use him the same way we're currently using Barea - split him at the 1/2, depending on who else is on the court [Kidd/Terry/SJax]. Roddy would be there to provide instant offense when JET goes cold (instead of Barea) and bring defense when JET gets burned (maybe even push Terry for 6th man). He might not be a "starter", but he'd still be a damn fine weapon to throw into the mix.

sike · 11-13-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

He might not be a "starter", but he'd still be a damn fine weapon to throw into the mix.

I agree, but I just doubt RC will toss JJ aside upon Roddy's return. RC was a scrappy guy and he likes scrappy guys.

I would love to be able to move two of our good guys (Butler and Terry?) and get back one really good one.

Underdog · 11-13-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

I agree, but I just doubt RC will toss JJ aside upon Roddy's return. RC was a scrappy and he likes scrappy guys.

I was thinking more of a playoff rotation - if you add SJax to the roster, then Roddy should push Barea out of the mix by the end of the season...

(not that I couldn't see Barea, Cardinal or Stevenson being the 9th player in certain matchups...)

sike · 11-13-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

I was thinking more of a playoff rotation - if you add SJax to the roster, then Roddy should push Barea out of the mix by the end of the season...

one can dream.

sefant77 · 11-13-2010, 07:13 PM

Like i said, last day of deadline i do the trade.

Jax has 2/20 left after the season and i prefer to pay him with 32 two years 10 million than giving Butler with 31 his 4 years/35+million.

I dont see a big issue with Roddys minutes. Marion will keep on backing up Dirk, so there should be around 20min at SF available. So it would be around 68min for Jax/Roddy/Terry (and maybe additional PG minutes for either Terry or Roddy).

And since the FA market next summer is pretty lame MLE wise we would/should resign Butler anyway, so we better get Jax.

With Jax we are definatly set like Boston since 2008.

mpb319 · 11-15-2010, 02:27 PM

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Why not include JJ in the trade to alleviate the PT issues for Roddy?
This trade would need to wait till Dec 15th so hopefully Roddy is back and we could pull the trigger.

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Dallas Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -6.1 ppg, -2.7 rpg, and +0.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Stephen Jackson
6-8 SF / SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
17.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 4.1 apg in 37.0 minutes
Dominic McGuire
6-8 SF from Fresno State
No games yet played in 2010-2011
Outgoing Players
Caron Butler
6-7 SF from Connecticut
14.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 1.3 apg in 32.0 minutes
Jose Barea
6-0 PG from Northeastern
8.9 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.5 apg in 18.6 minutes
Alexis Ajinca
7-0 C from France (Foreign)
No games yet played in 2010-2011
Charlotte Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +11.9 ppg, +6.5 rpg, and +0.7 apg.
Incoming Players
Caron Butler
6-7 SF from Connecticut
14.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 1.3 apg in 32.0 minutes
Jose Barea
6-0 PG from Northeastern
8.9 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 2.5 apg in 18.6 minutes
Jason Thompson
6-11 PF from Rider
5.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 15.6 minutes
Outgoing Players
Stephen Jackson
6-8 SF / SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
17.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 4.1 apg in 37.0 minutes
Eduardo Najera
6-8 SF from Oklahoma
0.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 6.6 minutes
Dominic McGuire
6-8 SF from Fresno State
No games yet played in 2010-2011
Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -5.8 ppg, -3.8 rpg, and -1.0 apg.
Incoming Players
Alexis Ajinca
7-0 C from France (Foreign)
No games yet played in 2010-2011
Eduardo Najera
6-8 SF from Oklahoma
0.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 6.6 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jason Thompson
6-11 PF from Rider
5.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 15.6 minutes

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