Mavericks Expected To Sign Quinton Ross - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

dongtouch · 07-03-2009, 08:42 AM

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...e.3eaae8a.html

The Mavericks are expected to sign free-agent Quinton Ross to a contract next week.

The Dallas Morning News reported that the terms of the deal are not yet known.

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Is he the next Trevor Ariza? Or the next Greg Buckner/Adrian Griffin? Probably the latter.

They are also believed to be shopping Dampier.

Rick41 · 07-03-2009, 08:54 AM

Yay!

Flacolaco · 07-03-2009, 09:11 AM

3.9 ppg!

SMC0007 · 07-03-2009, 09:18 AM

Whew. I thought he was gonna slip away. This is gonna show Kidd that we mean business here. We are going right after the guys we had our eyes on the whole time!

Underdog · 07-03-2009, 09:30 AM

Looks like the Master Plan of 2009 is still in full-effect:

Get Gortat
Get Ross
Lose Kidd
Let Barea start
Lose Dirk in 2010
Lose Underdog

(we haven't missed a step yet...)

Underdog · 07-03-2009, 09:34 AM

Your 2009 Dallas Clippers:

Barea/JET
Ross/Wright
Howard/George
Dirk/Singleton
Gortat/Damp

SMC0007 · 07-03-2009, 09:44 AM

^ UD: JET can't even crack that SLU. hahaha

mqywaaah · 07-03-2009, 10:15 AM

Should we plan the parade route in advance?

bobatundi · 07-03-2009, 10:17 AM

At least we'll have a lottery pick in 2010...oh wait, no we won't...

aexchange · 07-03-2009, 10:27 AM

We Love Our Team.

SMC0007 · 07-03-2009, 10:54 AM

Bring em in, put em in a cowboy hat and take em to the Mesquite rodeo, or Billy Bobs. Woo em' Donnie you frakin doucher!

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-03-2009, 10:57 AM

These are the types of players you sign AFTER you make the bigger moves. Not before. You could get Ross if you offered him Mcdonalds.

Underdog · 07-03-2009, 11:09 AM

I know a big splash can be hard to make, but are we actually getting worse?

What's the angle here???

SMC0007 · 07-03-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

I know a big splash can be hard to make, but are we actually getting worse?

What's the angle here???

Oh no, we're making a big splash alright, and it's the huge turd dropping in the punch bowl.

BGMaverick9 · 07-03-2009, 11:12 AM

This could easily be seen as a make-good kind of contract like McLeod was last summer. If you look at the # of players technically on the roster or who could be on the roster, the numbers don't add up to a legit number.

LonghornDub · 07-03-2009, 11:14 AM

By Quinton Ross, they mean Kobe Bryant, right?

grndmstr_c · 07-03-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

These are the types of players you sign AFTER you make the bigger moves. Not before. You could get Ross if you offered him Mcdonalds.

First, he probably is getting paid in Big Macs. Second, if you know you're going to need a bench wing, you've only got Big Macs to spend getting one, and the Big Mac-worthy bench wing you've targeted is willing to take your Big Macs, why on earth would you wait to give them to him? Just make the deal and get on with things.

Flacolaco · 07-03-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

These are the types of players you sign AFTER you make the bigger moves. Not before. You could get Ross if you offered him Mcdonalds.

Giggle.

Underdog · 07-03-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Oh no, we're making a big splash alright, and it's the huge turd dropping in the punch bowl.

You should change your sig to Donnie Smurf:

BGMaverick9 · 07-03-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

First, he probably is getting paid in Big Macs. Second, if you know you're going to need a bench wing, you've only got Big Macs to spend getting one, and the Big Mac-worthy bench wing you've targeted is willing to take your Big Macs, why on earth would you wait to give them to him? Just make the deal and get on with things.

I'm F'ing hungry now...thanks!

It is extra insurance in case you do make some moves that leave you thin at a position. I still think it's gonna be like McLeod's deal last year heading into the SL.

Underdog · 07-03-2009, 11:32 AM

So where's the deal that keeps Kidd (and eventually Dirk) from leaving?

It's starting to look like we'll have to use Stack to get a new starting PG - that's a big step backward from last season...

BGMaverick9 · 07-03-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

So where's the deal that keeps Kidd (and eventually Dirk) from leaving?

It's starting to look like we'll have to use Stack to get a new starting PG - that's a big step backward from last season...

IF that happens there are still options out there for guys who have a market drying up on them, guys like Andre Miller and Bibby. I'm pretty sure their teams don't wanna give them what they want on the market and would MAYBE think about the Stack Chip. Maybe they look at Felton.

I've slept since my thought about Kidd and I think it's just posturing - the optimism is back in full force, I think he comes back.

bcrav4 · 07-03-2009, 11:41 AM

Does anybody want to venture a guess whether he will be getting out BAE or LLE?

grndmstr_c · 07-03-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bcrav4

Does anybody want to venture a guess whether he will be getting out BAE or LLE?

I believe you just offered us a choice between option A and option A.

And I expect it's for the vet minimum.

Underdog · 07-03-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

IF that happens there are still options out there for guys who have a market drying up on them, guys like Andre Miller and Bibby. I'm pretty sure their teams don't wanna give them what they want on the market and would MAYBE think about the Stack Chip. Maybe they look at Felton.

I've slept since my thought about Kidd and I think it's just posturing - the optimism is back in full force, I think he comes back.

Thinking about it, I'm not 100% sure I want Kidd back at this point - especially if he honors a S&T... I mean, does anyone really think Kidd can contribute enough to make us legit contenders for another 3 season?

If we can grab Miller, Felton or Bibby with the Stack chip then turn around & somehow grab a quality 2-guard in exchange for Kidd, we might actually come out ahead...

jthig32 · 07-03-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bcrav4

Does anybody want to venture a guess whether he will be getting out BAE or LLE?

You're kidding, right?

First of all the BAE and LLE are the same thing.

Secondly, if Ross gets the LLE I will flip the F out. He's going to get the vet minimum and maybe not even a guaranteed contract.

mavs777 · 07-03-2009, 11:58 AM

I don't have 1 problem about the move, Green is now sure to be gone (thank god), and it isn't like Ross has no game experience, he has added a 3 point shot and now is a very good free throw shooter, can be a little eratic at time. He will play some minutes at the 3 and 2 and will be asked to be a defensive stopper. I am guessing he averages around 10 MPG and plays in around 60-70. He will be the 9-10 guy off the bench, maybe now they look to move Terry

mavs777 · 07-03-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

You're kidding, right?

First of all the BAE and LLE are the same thing.

Secondly, if Ross gets the LLE I will flip the F out. He's going to get the vet minimum and maybe not even a guaranteed contract.

He is going to get a guaranteed contract, there is no doubt what so ever, he could have gone else where, it isn't like he played 10 MPG for the last 5 seasons and appeared sparingly in games

jthig32 · 07-03-2009, 12:03 PM

Yes I would say it's likely that he'll get a guaranteed contract. I was just trying to stress how unlikely it was that he'd take up the LLE.

Seriously, if we used the LLE on Quinton Ross this board would implode.

BGMaverick9 · 07-03-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Thinking about it, I'm not 100% sure I want Kidd back at this point - especially if he honors a S&T... I mean, does anyone really think Kidd can contribute enough to make us legit contenders for another 3 season?

If we can grab Miller, Felton or Bibby with the Stack chip then turn around & somehow grab a quality 2-guard in exchange for Kidd, we might actually come out ahead...

Based on if Gortat comes here, all we've got are S&T chips for Stack to get a new PG if Kidd leaves...the pieces in NY aren't overly exciting to fill that 2 guard spot.

That's the problem with possibly coming out ahead, it doesn't look likely with that route. You need Kidd to come back, and use "The Chip" (that's how I roll now) on a guard and then push harder later with Damp to get you something else.

Underdog · 07-03-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Based on if Gortat comes here, all we've got are S&T chips for Stack to get a new PG if Kidd leaves...the pieces in NY aren't overly exciting to fill that 2 guard spot.

That's the problem with possibly coming out ahead, it doesn't look likely with that route. You need Kidd to come back, and use "The Chip" (that's how I roll now) on a guard and then push harder later with Damp to get you something else.

I hate no-win scenarios...

This summer was brimming with possibility, but it looks more like we've decided to tool for 2010 (unless we make a splash around the trade deadline...)

jthig32 · 07-03-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

I hate no-win scenarios...

This summer was brimming with possibility, but it looks more like we've decided to tool for 2010 (unless we make a splash around the trade deadline...)

Signing Gortat to a five year MLE deal doesn't seem like tooling for 2010 to me. This signing actually has be more convinced than ever that they're going to take on salary with the Stack chip. And I was almost convinced they weren't.

Underdog · 07-03-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Signing Gortat to a five year MLE deal doesn't seem like tooling for 2010 to me. This signing actually has be more convinced than ever that they're going to take on salary with the Stack chip. And I was almost convinced they weren't.

I meant talent-wise, not money-wise...

(I'm not communicating very clearly today - must not have gotten enough sleep...)

EricaLubarsky · 07-03-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

I hate no-win scenarios...

This summer was brimming with possibility, but it looks more like we've decided to tool for 2010 (unless we make a splash around the trade deadline...)

we have yet to make a single move other than have a good draft, sign a center with good potential to an offer, and pickup a backup SG who may or may not have a guaranteed contract.

Your pessimism, while maybe warranted when Camp starts, is ridiculous at this point in time. Tons of potential trades to be made (and many hints that big trades will happen), we sign a backup guard (who may not even be guaranteed) and you suddenly turn into 92? For shame. Dont let yourself become 92.

mavs777 · 07-03-2009, 12:33 PM

^^^what he said, also it looks like Damp is being shopped around

Underdog · 07-03-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

we have yet to make a single move other than have a good draft, sign a center with good potential to an offer, and pickup a backup SG who may or may not have a guaranteed contract.

Your pessimism, while maybe warranted when Camp starts, is ridiculous at this point in time. Tons of potential trades to be made, we sign a backup guard and you suddenly turn into 92?

I'm looking at the names available versus the names who have already been acquired by premier teams and I just can't figure out how we're going to become legit contenders THIS season...

The only shred of hope I have left for us winning a ring in 2009 is the fact that the biggest deals are the ones that come out of left field...

I don't want to get better, I want to get best...

BGMaverick9 · 07-03-2009, 12:36 PM

We talked about this last night:
It's gonna take something massive on top of Gortat and Kidd coming for us to be in the fight with the Lakers, Cavs and maybe Boston. You just gotta build a lineup that can get you as far as you can go until you face those big dogs. Those teams are like the Yanks and Red Sox, just stockpiling talent over talent. We just need to weather the storm and hope for solid internal development if we go with the route we are taking.

Underdog · 07-03-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

We talked about this last night:
It's gonna take something massive on top of Gortat and Kidd coming for us to be in the fight with the Lakers, Cavs and maybe Boston. You just gotta build a lineup that can get you as far as you can go until you face those big dogs. Those teams are like the Yanks and Red Sox, just stockpiling talent over talent. We just need to weather the storm and hope for solid internal development if we go with the route we are taking.

To put it another way then - I don't think we'll beat the Spurs in the first round this season like we did last season...

If you stand still while everyone else moves forward, then you're moving backward...

grndmstr_c · 07-03-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

We just need to weather the storm and hope for solid internal development if we go with the route we are taking.

If by "weather the storm and hope for solid internal development", you mean, "conserve resources that don't need to be spent yet, and look to spend the team's soon-to-expire resources on guys who have a good shot at developing," then I am with you 100%.

Underdog · 07-03-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

If by "weather the storm and hope for solid internal development", you mean, "conserve resources that don't need to be spent yet, and look to spend the team's soon-to-expire resources on guys who have a good shot at developing," then I am with you 100%.

That sounds a lot like "tooling for the trade deadline or 2010" - maybe if I said it as pretty as you did I wouldn't get compared to 92bDad...