08-23-2010, 08:51 PM
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Harden is starting to walk guys, but he has a no-hitter through 6 innings. LOL
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08-23-2010, 09:14 PM
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No-no through 7 innings. Harrison got the last out in the 7th because Harden was taken out.
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08-23-2010, 09:25 PM
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O'Day pitches a perfect 8. Three outs away. wow
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08-23-2010, 09:49 PM
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Feliz gives up a hit with one out in the 9th to Joe Mauer on a 0-2 count.
He gets the next two guys though. Rangers win 4-0. A great win overall.
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08-23-2010, 09:59 PM
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Hard to be mad at Feliz for doing his job.
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08-24-2010, 06:47 AM
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Mauer hit a high outside fastball back up the middle. Sometimes you just give the hitter props.
Nice start by Harden though, but he still gave up too many walks.
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08-24-2010, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dalmations202
Mauer hit a high outside fastball back up the middle. Sometimes you just give the hitter props.
Nice start by Harden though, but he still gave up too many walks.
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Yeah, and it could have been like 8-10 walks given up. He had a full count on like 5 guys that he ended up getting out (2 or 3 that he started 3-0 on).
I never knew he was this wild before he came to Texas. Like you said though, good start as no hitting the league's best hitting team for 6 2/3 innings isn't easy. Tough way to end the no-hit bid, but as it was said above Feliz did his job and closed out the game. I had this game penciled in as a loss, so that definitely helps the rest of the series point in the Rangers' favor.
Lewis, CJ, and Lee the rest of the way against 3 of their best. Go Rangers!
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08-24-2010, 09:35 AM
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Yeah, and it could have been like 8-10 walks given up. He had a full count on like 5 guys that he ended up getting out (2 or 3 that he started 3-0 on).
I never knew he was this wild before he came to Texas. Like you said though, good start as no hitting the league's best hitting team for 6 2/3 innings isn't easy. Tough way to end the no-hit bid, but as it was said above Feliz did his job and closed out the game. I had this game penciled in as a loss, so that definitely helps the rest of the series point in the Rangers' favor.
Lewis, CJ, and Lee the rest of the way against 3 of their best. Go Rangers!
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From what I read, that's kind of how he pitches. Way too many pitches, wild, but in the end, it all works.
I've never seen him before this year, though, so I don't know. And yes, I doubt that he gets 10 3-0 counts each start when he was really rolling back three years ago.
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08-24-2010, 03:56 PM
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I'm glad the no-no ended against one of the best hitters in the Majors, and definitely the best hitter of the last four years in the AL (three batting titles). I can live with that. It would have sucked if it ended against some bad hitter who just got lucky. Props to Mauer, the dude's a beast.
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08-24-2010, 07:53 PM
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08-25-2010, 10:20 AM
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Another solid win against a solid team. If we play smart and CJ continues to pitch the way he has we could actually sweep this team. Considering the dumbass comments made by Colin I don't think Minny has a chance in hell of beating Cliff in the finale. Big game tonight.
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08-25-2010, 10:24 PM
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I think the Twins can consider themselves pretty thoroughly cooled off. Lucky for them the White Sox are not taking advantage.
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08-25-2010, 10:28 PM
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nice win. bullpen is fantastic again.
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08-25-2010, 11:07 PM
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Another great game. This series has been great, and not only because we've won each game. The last two games have been decided by a run, and the first one was close to a no-no. This would be a great series to watch as a neutral observer.
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08-26-2010, 09:34 AM
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Another great game. This series has been great, and not only because we've won each game. The last two games have been decided by a run, and the first one was close to a no-no. This would be a great series to watch as a neutral observer.
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Of course winning all 3 hasn't hurt a bit.
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08-26-2010, 12:21 PM
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This train is getting ready to leave the station!! God, I hope Vladdy is rounding back into form.
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08-26-2010, 02:00 PM
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i'm ready for september. vladdy can get a few days off to rest back up with the roster expansion. Might even be able to give Cliff Lee an extra day or something.
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08-26-2010, 05:36 PM
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Happy 22nd birthday, Elvis!!
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08-26-2010, 11:37 PM
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Taking 3 of 4 from the twins...Nice!
Cliff Lee's last two games...not as nice.
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08-26-2010, 11:52 PM
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Taking 3 of 4 from the twins...Nice!
Cliff Lee's last two games...not as nice.
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i think it may be time for cliff to get an extra day or two. something ain't right there.
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08-27-2010, 11:48 PM
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9.5 games to make up over 34 games remaining.
The word P*ayoffs is almost legal to use in conversation. Not yet though. There's still too much time left. Almost though. Almost.
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08-28-2010, 08:23 AM
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I'm thinking that one more win in this series and it's done..
who the hell am I kidding... The A's pretty much had to have a sweep.
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08-28-2010, 11:06 AM
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Their schedule just still looks awful down the stretch. 4 at Toronto...remember what happened last time there? The Yankees, A's, Angels....They have to go back to Minnesota again. Very tough.
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08-28-2010, 11:47 AM
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9.5 games to make up over 34 games remaining.
The word P*ayoffs is almost legal to use in conversation. Not yet though. There's still too much time left. Almost though. Almost.
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I'll break decorum: the Rangers absolutely will make the playoffs, and will likely do so with many games left in the season.
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08-28-2010, 12:08 PM
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Quote:
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9.5 games to make up over 34 games remaining.
The word P*ayoffs is almost legal to use in conversation. Not yet though. There's still too much time left. Almost though. Almost.
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The Rangers are going to the playoffs. Period.
And I'm going to Ranger playoff games. Because there will be some. In Arlington. This year. Without question.
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08-28-2010, 01:59 PM
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Playoffs? Playoffs??
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08-28-2010, 03:02 PM
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The Rangers are going to the playoffs. Period.
And I'm going to Ranger playoff games. Because there will be some. In Arlington. This year. Without question.
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All I've known the entire time I have followed the Rangers (not more than 6-7 years) is that...well, they are the Rangers.
I have been trained to expect failure. I have been trained to watch for the rug getting pulled out from under me.
They are the rangers. I will believe it on October 3rd or so.
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08-28-2010, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Flacolaco
All I've known the entire time I have followed the Rangers (not more than 6-7 years) is that...well, they are the Rangers.
I have been trained to expect failure. I have been trained to watch for the rug getting pulled out from under me.
They are the rangers. I will believe it on October 3rd or so.
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Sigh...
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08-28-2010, 04:00 PM
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I don't know what the odds of making the playoffs are for them at this point... but, they've got to be around 95-98% or so.
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08-28-2010, 04:07 PM
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I don't know what the odds of making the playoffs are for them at this point... but, they've got to be around 95-98% or so.
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BaseballProspectus has our odds of winning the division at 98.05%.
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08-28-2010, 04:20 PM
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I had 98% originally..but, I didn't want to shoot too high.
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08-28-2010, 10:57 PM
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Harden is a POS. He pitches well just so he can be granted an extra start where he can **** us over. Go away already.
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08-28-2010, 11:18 PM
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oh come on.
Seriously think about it. Seriously think about a person whose only evidence is the last seven years. That person is like a battered house wife who has been beaten brutally every August. Take only the last seven years of Ranger baseball into account. That's me. I have been (proverbially) beaten mercilessly over and over and over again.
We all have.
There is no logical, sane reason for anyone to come out of the last 10 years of Rangers baseball and expect anything but a kick in the mother-effing balls. Anything else is completely illogical, half glass full bull sh!t.
Every Ranger fan who has actually followed this team in the last decade should be skeptical until the G D playoff schedule comes out.
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08-28-2010, 11:32 PM
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oh come on.
Seriously think about it. Seriously think about a person whose only evidence is the last seven years. That person is like a battered house wife who has been beaten brutally every August. Take only the last seven years of Ranger baseball into account. That's me. I have been (proverbially) beaten mercilessly over and over and over again.
We all have.
There is no logical, sane reason for anyone to come out of the last 10 years of Rangers baseball and expect anything but a kick in the mother-effing balls. Anything else is completely illogical, half glass full bull sh!t.
Every Ranger fan who has actually followed this team in the last decade should be skeptical until the G D playoff schedule comes out.
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Some people say the glass is half full. Some say it is half empty. I say "what glass?"
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08-28-2010, 11:34 PM
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Do you see what Rich Harden did to my ability to compose intelligible English?
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08-29-2010, 12:17 AM
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Do you see what Rich Harden did to my ability to compose intelligible English?
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Did I mention Sigh? You are worse than Harden - at least he is somewhat helpful to the Rangers' goal of winning the division. He can pitch well every other game, but you suck every post.
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08-29-2010, 01:58 AM
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When Ranger beat writers are attempting to find the exact right 140 characters to berate and tweet about Harden, as many of them have been, my point is a foregone conclusion.
The central point remains, what have the Rangers EVER done in the last ten years to make anyone optimistic? The answer remains: Nothing. Thus the big ass party we will throw when they actually do officially make the playoffs, and not a moment before.
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08-29-2010, 02:29 AM
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When Ranger beat writers are attempting to find the exact right 140 characters to berate and tweet about Harden, as many of them have been, my point is a foregone conclusion.
The central point remains, what have the Rangers EVER done in the last ten years to make anyone optimistic? The answer remains: Nothing. Thus the big ass party we will throw when they actually do officially make the playoffs, and not a moment before.
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I will not disagree with you. But the fact is that before this season, the Rangers have come close to winning a division title only once since 1999. And that was in 2004, when we finished in 3rd place, but ended up much closer to first than in 2009. Basically what I'm trying to say is that it's not like the Rangers were ever in first place by a long shot deep into August/early September. These "collapses" that we talk about here aren't real collapses. Sure, the Rangers have had a history of "struggling" late in the season. But I think rather than the Rangers "struggling"...it was the other teams in the division picking it up and going on division-winning tears.
Last season, the Rangers were three games above .500 after the All Star break. Not bad, but obviously not good enough to do enough to win the division. Meanwhile, the Angels were 20 games over .500 en route to winning the AL West. The fact is, the Angels got hot while the Rangers treaded water. I don't see that as the Rangers "collapsing." I see that as the Angels kicking ass and taking care of business.
Basically what I'm trying to say, and to end my long rant, is that the Rangers haven't been in this position the last decade. We haven't had a 8-10 game division lead that we have blown. Now, I'm not here to claim that a playoff spot has been clinched or anything. But there is no reason to believe that any past September "failures" from the 2000-2009 teams (that were in 2nd place AT BEST) will have any weight on the current 2010 team in first place.
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08-29-2010, 08:52 AM
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oh come on.
Seriously think about it. Seriously think about a person whose only evidence is the last seven years. That person is like a battered house wife who has been beaten brutally every August. Take only the last seven years of Ranger baseball into account. That's me. I have been (proverbially) beaten mercilessly over and over and over again.
We all have.
There is no logical, sane reason for anyone to come out of the last 10 years of Rangers baseball and expect anything but a kick in the mother-effing balls. Anything else is completely illogical, half glass full bull sh!t.
Every Ranger fan who has actually followed this team in the last decade should be skeptical until the G D playoff schedule comes out.
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There's been absolutely nothing in those seven years to suggest that they are a team to do this well in a season and then wilt. If anything, fans that were around in '96 are the ones that have an excuse to be skeptical. That seasons was incredibly stressful because for the last two months of the season it felt like they were going to blow it.
The last seven years of history are irrelevant because the Rangers have been terrible, save for 2004 when they were mediocre. There is nothing in their history to suggest that they are prone to a historic September collapse.
The appropriate thing to talk about, at this point, is whether they can catch Minnesota for the second seed, not whether they make the playoffs.
If they miss the playoffs then the miss the playoffs. But at this point there's no reason to be obsessing over that particular possibility. At this points the odds are much higher that they win the whole freaking thing than to miss the playoffs.
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08-29-2010, 11:35 AM
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If it's 2% that they'll miss the playoffs then yeah, I would say the chances of them winning it all would be bigger...but not by much. Most of the "stock" or percentages would go very heavy on NY and Tampa. Even with 8 teams, I'd still say their chances are low because I don't believe they'll beat either of those two teams. Its more wide open in the NL.
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