2009 NBA Playoffs Discussion/Watch live thread - Page 12 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

AxdemxO · 05-06-2009, 11:08 PM

WOW @ Rondo's play in these playofs...the kid is sick.

GO ROCKETS

GO MAVS

DOMINATOR · 05-07-2009, 12:00 AM

WTF Wafer... getting kicked off the bench by adelman.
shiiit

DOMINATOR · 05-07-2009, 12:01 AM

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So I'm not watching the game, but I see from the box score that in the first half, Yao sat after picking up 3 fouls in 10 minutes. I think almost any cynical NBA fan would have predicted this after a home Laker loss.

To anyone watching the game, were they legit fouls?

2 legit 2 ticky tack bullshit calls. (hes got 4 now)

Dnowit41 · 05-07-2009, 12:12 AM

I have no respect for Kobe Bryant

Thomas86 · 05-07-2009, 12:28 AM

GuerillaBlack · 05-07-2009, 12:28 AM

The Rockets need to get a scrub (Brian Cook maybe) to come in and just lay out that punk Kobe Bryant.

fluid.forty.one · 05-07-2009, 12:46 AM

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That picture is full of irony.

Blackspider972 · 05-07-2009, 12:49 AM

Fisher better get suspended for that cheap shit he did.

GuerillaBlack · 05-07-2009, 01:02 AM

Punks.

antoinewalker · 05-07-2009, 01:11 AM

ron artest is so funny.

ghazi · 05-07-2009, 02:09 AM

LA has shown a few warts this postseason w/ blown leads, shoddy D and Bynum playing poorly. Still think they go to Finals if they get past HOuston though.

Houston has a legitimate shot to beat em though, didnt think that before series started.

stoble · 05-07-2009, 02:27 AM

Did anyone else think Artest was about to CRUSH Kobe after that elbow he threw? I don't like Kobe very much but I feared for his life at that moment.

12 Tone Melodies · 05-07-2009, 09:09 AM

http://www.nba.com/news/referee.html
Referee Assignments
May 7, 2009
Atlanta @ Cleveland--D. Crawford; V. Palmer; D. Stafford

Good grief--it's the Protect LeHype Squad

92bDad · 05-07-2009, 09:54 AM

I can't figure out what the NBA wants in the Yao/Kobe series.

But last night, was obviously a Laker slanted officiated performance.

Not to mention, the anti-Artest crowd.

On this note, what would be better for the NBA Business?

International crowd for a Yao versus Lebron Finals, or a Media Hyped in the USA of a Kobe versus Lebron Finals?

I'm almost inclined to believe that the league is not fixed, but rather filled with Incompatent officials!!!

If I hated Kobe before this series, I truly hate him now!!! I hope Kobe gets put on his back with an Elbow from Yao!!! Knock the punk out!!!

Dirkenstien · 05-07-2009, 10:05 AM

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Punks.

Tell softy Scola to wear a heavier skirt. Maybe it'll help him from flopping about the next time a point guared gives him a little shove.

I enjoyed that game. My guess is Lakers win out.

Dtownsfinest · 05-07-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkenstien

Tell softy Scola to wear a heavier skirt. Maybe it'll help him from flopping about the next time a point guared gives him a little shove.

I enjoyed that game. My guess is Lakers win out.

That isn't a flop lol. Fisher has probably the strongest upper body of any point guard in the league. As you can see he didn't even move when Scola was going at him full speed. Scola for the first time felt what a real foul feels like. But for that elbow Fisher should get suspended.

ocelot_ark · 05-07-2009, 11:46 AM

What Fisher did last night was f'ing chickenshit and to NOT suspend him would be laughable.

I'd love to see an alternate angle on the Artest/Kobe elbow. it'd be awesome if Kobe had grazed artest's chin (head) and had to serve an automatic 1 game suspension. And Artest getting booted was a joke.

Dirkenstien · 05-07-2009, 11:48 AM

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That isn't a flop lol. Fisher has probably the strongest upper body of any point guard in the league. As you can see he didn't even move when Scola was going at him full speed. Scola for the first time felt what a real foul feels like. But for that elbow Fisher should get suspended.

C'mon, that's a flop. Look how his head slings back and his feet fly up.

Plus that pick has more to do with lower body strength than upper. How old is Fisher again?If he can hit that hard from a stand still side shuffle then he's in the wrong sport. He shouldn't have even got ejected for that.

Dtownsfinest · 05-07-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkenstien

C'mon, that's a flop. Look how his head slings back and his feet fly up.

Plus that pick has more to do with lower body strength than upper. How old is Fisher again?If he can hit that hard from a stand still side shuffle then he's in the wrong sport. He shouldn't have even got ejected for that.

Looking at it again you may be right. Seems like Scola did add a little acting there. I still think that's mostly Fisher though. But I do think the ejection was correct and wouldn't be shocked if he missed a game. It was intentional. Fisher looked back and through the elbow. He along with Rafer Alston will be sitting out their next games. I don't know about Kobe. His wasn't intentional but....actually I do know about Kobe. No way in hell he's suspended. He can shoot someone on the court and still won't get suspended lol.

tsar · 05-07-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkenstien

C'mon, that's a flop. Look how his head slings back and his feet fly up.

Plus that pick has more to do with lower body strength than upper. How old is Fisher again?If he can hit that hard from a stand still side shuffle then he's in the wrong sport. He shouldn't have even got ejected for that.

I'm sure he would have fell either way, he just made it look like he fell "harder". That's beside the point though: you can clearly see Fisher turn his body and look at Scola coming at him which is then followed up by him proceeding to check him the f' out. So, little acting job aside, that was a well deserved ejection. I hope Kobe gets suspended from the next game because his bitch princess treatment is infuriating to watch.

Dirkenstien · 05-07-2009, 01:35 PM

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I'm sure he would have fell either way, he just made it look like he fell "harder". That's beside the point though: you can clearly see Fisher turn his body and look at Scola coming at him which is then followed up by him proceeding to check him the f' out. So, little acting job aside, that was a well deserved ejection. I hope Kobe gets suspended from the next game because his bitch princess treatment is infuriating to watch.

Where was Kenyon Martin's ejection for checking Dirk? Where was Rondo's ejection for fish hooking Brad Miller or literally grabbing Hinrich by the arm and throwing him into the score table? Where was Howard's ejection for sending an elbow directly to Dalembert's head? All of these examples were deliberate fouls and were much worse than that little love tap Fisher put on Scola, yet Fisher gets ejected. I know two wrongs don't make a right, I'm just sayin.

On a side note, I understand the concept of selling a call in certain circumstances such as when trying to score, hell Dirk does it all the time, but I truly can't stand blatant off the ball flops.

DOMINATOR · 05-07-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkenstien

Where was Kenyon Martin's ejection for checking Dirk? Where was Rondo's ejection for fish hooking Brad Miller or literally grabbing Hinrich by the arm and throwing him into the score table? Where was Howard's ejection for sending an elbow directly to Dalembert's head? All of these examples were deliberate fouls and were much worse than that little love tap Fisher put on Scola, yet Fisher gets ejected. I know two wrongs don't make a right, I'm just sayin.

On a side note, I understand the concept of selling a call in certain circumstances such as when trying to score, hell Dirk does it all the time, but I truly can't stand blatant off the ball flops.

dwight howard was suspended (magic played better without him). rondo shoulda been ejected. i didn't see the k-mart play.
fisher should get suspended because he looked back and charged scola with an elbow.
kobe/artest should have been called an equal foul. no way artest should have been ejected from the game though.

92bDad · 05-07-2009, 02:41 PM

Throwing Artest out was f'n stupid!!!

Not only should Kobe be suspended, but the officials of that game should also be suspended.

Kobe foul that wasn't call instigated the entire incident. That is why I believe Kobe should be suspended. The officials for protecting Kobe or flat out being blind.

The league should also issue an apology to Ron Artest for not keeping the game under control.

At least we got to see some physical confrontation, unlike the other series with our local favorites getting punked!!!

Dirkenstien · 05-07-2009, 04:13 PM

Agreed that the Artest ejection wasn't warranted but he did at least deserve a T for instigating the confrontation. Yeah Kobe gave a bit of a cheap shot under the basket but big deal, that happens every day in the NBA. I do like Artest's intensity, though. He's a bit mental but I think it works in his favor if he can just stay on the court. He's playing good basketball and honestly I wouldn't mind having a little bit of that craziness/intensity on the Mavs right now.

I'd be suprised if Fisher even gets a fine for the Scola foul.

92bDad · 05-07-2009, 04:32 PM

The issue with Fisher's foul, is that Fisher initiated the foul and then his follow through made it appear even worse that it perhaps should have been. This coupled with it taking place in the open floor, with ALL eyes on the incident.

There was no attempt to make a basketball move by Fisher, he simply looked at Scola, ducked down and then drove into him. It was almost a text book Football hit.

Now, truth be known, I have no issues with the play itself...I wish some Mavs would make a physical point in the same way as Fisher, but also be ready to take the Flagrant Hit and ultimate suspension.

At the end of the day, I don't believe that the NBA has the balls to suspend Kobe, but I think they may suspend Fisher just to say that they did something. I do believe that the NBA needs to come back and at least issue a Flagrant 1 or 2 to Kobe...then they need to have the official call a tight game to get this stuff to blow over.

I doubt seriously we will see the NBA doing anything.

92bDad · 05-07-2009, 04:44 PM

Fisher was suspended for one game.

Bryant has been upgraded from no fould to a Flagrant 1

And that other play...I forget the name, the "Magic" player who hit slapped House in the back of the head has been suspended for 1 game as well.

GuerillaBlack · 05-07-2009, 06:15 PM

Good decisions by the league.

Dtownsfinest · 05-08-2009, 12:09 AM

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Fisher was suspended for one game.

Bryant has been upgraded from no fould to a Flagrant 1

And that other play...I forget the name, the "Magic" player who hit slapped House in the back of the head has been suspended for 1 game as well.

How'd you forget Skip to My Lou lol?

As far as these good suspensions I disagree. The inconsistencies in these suspensions are outrageous. Kobe elbow's Artest above the shoulders and doesn't get suspended? That's what sets guys like Artest off. They're worried about him being a loose cannon but if the damn refs did their job you wouldn't have to worry about anyone losing it.

Dirkenstien · 05-08-2009, 08:36 AM

Well I am suprised by the Fisher suspension, but mostly because they've let so much other crap fly in this year's playoffs so far. I'm not sure how Rondo doesn't get suspended for his stunts, yet Fisher does. At least KMart got a fine for the Dirk foul, did Rondo even get that?? The inconsistencies are a problem with this league, to say the least.

I'm looking forward to both games tonight. Whoever wins between Boston/Orlando is going to have their hands full with Lebron. He's playing like a mad man right now.

12 Tone Melodies · 05-08-2009, 09:11 AM

http://www.nba.com/news/referee.html
Referee Assignments
May 8, 2009
Boston @ Orlando--S. Foster; J. DeRosa; L. Wood
L.A. Lakers @ Houston--S. Javie; S. Corbin; R. Garretson

Blackspider972 · 05-08-2009, 11:36 AM

What is the point in upgrading to a flagrant 1 AFTER the game? I mean seriously. I don't see the other team start out the game with free throws and stuff like that so to me, it serves absolutely no purpose.

Dirkenstien · 05-08-2009, 12:12 PM

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What is the point in upgrading to a flagrant 1 AFTER the game? I mean seriously. I don't see the other team start out the game with free throws and stuff like that so to me, it serves absolutely no purpose.

I agree, there should at least be some kind of fine associated with after-the-fact flagrant upgrades. Otherwise, what's the point?

Stranger · 05-08-2009, 01:27 PM

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I agree, there should at least be some kind of fine associated with after-the-fact flagrant upgrades. Otherwise, what's the point?

If you get a certain amount of flagrant 1's (3 or 4?) in the playoffs, you will be suspended. So Kobe is now one flagrant closer to having to sit for a game. Not much, but I think that is the reason they update it after the game.

alby · 05-08-2009, 01:52 PM

Kobe is never going to get suspended from a playoff game.

LonghornDub · 05-08-2009, 03:23 PM

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Kobe is never going to get suspended from a playoff game.

This.

LonghornDub · 05-08-2009, 11:08 PM

Well, hopefully the Rockets fans enjoyed their 2-3 days of glory.

Blackspider972 · 05-08-2009, 11:25 PM

The day Kobe, Lebron, Wade or one of the big time Celtics players get suspended for a playoff game is the day I will go jump off of the I-45 overpass in Downtown.

Flacolaco · 05-08-2009, 11:36 PM

28 shots....33 points. Kobe strikes again.

GuerillaBlack · 05-09-2009, 01:03 AM

To much chucking in the second half, when we were keeping it close in the first half. I doubt the Rockets win another game in this series.

Justin Credible · 05-09-2009, 01:11 AM

Late to the party..

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Originally Posted by Dirkenstien

C'mon, that's a flop. Look how his head slings back and his feet fly up.

Plus that pick has more to do with lower body strength than upper. How old is Fisher again?If he can hit that hard from a stand still side shuffle then he's in the wrong sport. He shouldn't have even got ejected for that.

I don't know man, I really don't think it was much of a flop. Fisher dug in so deep for that foul that Scola's teeth actually dug into his scalp and cut it. I'd say that in itself proves how hard that foul was and explains why he went down like a sack of potatoes.

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Well I am suprised by the Fisher suspension, but mostly because they've let so much other crap fly in this year's playoffs so far. I'm not sure how Rondo doesn't get suspended for his stunts, yet Fisher does. At least KMart got a fine for the Dirk foul, did Rondo even get that?? The inconsistencies are a problem with this league, to say the least.

I'm looking forward to both games tonight. Whoever wins between Boston/Orlando is going to have their hands full with Lebron. He's playing like a mad man right now.

This I agree with.. I was pissed when the first Rondo flagrant happened.. and the 2nd.. and the 3rd.

I don't understand how they can possibly justify the variation of punishments.

Tonight Artest got thrown out for a foul that arguably wasn't even a flagrant 1.. How do they justify that?