Combined GDTs for this sh$#show - Page 28 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

BPo001 · 03-26-2023, 02:01 PM

Hornets have 14 (!) offensive rebounds.

Dallas41 · 03-26-2023, 02:04 PM

So did Powell finally get benched

Dallas41 · 03-26-2023, 02:08 PM

Wood committs the worst fouls at the wrong time

Dallas41 · 03-26-2023, 02:18 PM

Not much you can do closed the game with best 5 and still can't seem to get it done

JTmoney2424 · 03-26-2023, 02:24 PM

This team is an absolute dumpster fire defensively late in games.

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-26-2023, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Sometimes I just wish Luka would make the fundamental pass

Those two non challant passes he made in the last two minutes as turnovers are killers at times for momentum

It doesn't seem like a big deal at the moment but that shit hurts your team later

Team has checked out.

Again, if Kidd isn't fired, then Cuban wants us to be bad.

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-26-2023, 02:42 PM

This is all good though. We hopefully keep our pick and coach gets fired. Irving walks, and we have cap space and make Hardy an actual rotation piece.

We haven't been good all season. This just isn't the year. Gotta capitalize on being bad now.

Dallas41 · 03-26-2023, 02:50 PM

Pretty Sad when Mark Williams and PJ Washington bully you inside b2b games

Also DSJ begged the mavs to sign him even for a minimum contract and they refused

Team was devoid of defenders and basically told a solid defender we don't need you lol

Even if you fire Kidd the big man upstairs Mark Cuban is still owner and as of right now dude is probably one of worst owners at roster building in the NBA

He's loyal to guys like Powell and thj while guys like Brunson are shown less love for their contributions

Think about it Powell and THJ somehow got 2nd contracts from cuban but Brunson couldn't get one.

That's a not a coaching problem that's an ownership problem

purplefrog · 03-26-2023, 02:54 PM

Cuban = Jerry Jones

Kidd < Avery Johnson

Hornets > Mavs

Nuff said.

Amarelooms · 03-26-2023, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Cuban = Jerry Jones

Kidd < Avery Johnson

Hornets > Mavs

Nuff said.

Cowboys are better. I?m looking forward to their season unlike the Mavs

Dallas41 · 03-26-2023, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Cuban = Jerry Jones

Kidd < Avery Johnson

Hornets > Mavs

Nuff said.

Cuban hasn't even been Jerry Jones

The Cowboys value their draft picks and they usually hit on their picks

The issue with them has been subpar coaching as opposed to roster building

But despite their sub par coaching they still wins games

Cuban also has more business interest than Jones. The Cowboys are Jerry's main priority

We can't say that about the Cuban anymore when it comes to the mavs

Dallas41 · 03-26-2023, 03:38 PM

Went back and looked at that technical on Luka

Just dumb mental approach

No need need to complain dude just let it go and get back on defense

That was a very unnecessary tech because he could have easily shrugged it off and kept playing

Let's see if cuban protest that to

BigDog63 · 03-26-2023, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Cuban = Jerry Jones

Kidd < Avery Johnson

Hornets > Mavs

Nuff said.

Hard to argue, except Kidd had the team playing very well before the trade, and before everyone got injured. People forget that. I'm not sure Kidd is the problem here, although he also appears to not be the solution. But yes Mavs are currently clearly < Hornets; and Hornets are very bad. Not even mad...just sad. FO screwed this team up. I think Kyrie might have thought about staying here, but not now, and that's actually a good thing, even though he is not the problem. But only way out of this is to reconstruct the team through a sign and trade with Kyrie. Maybe that was the idea all along (and they just couldn't say so publicly)? Absolutely best scenario for that would be with LA, but does AD want out that bad (or in on Mavs?)?

Also, unless the Mavs are somehow the most valuable franchise in the NBA, or close to it (they're not), then Cuban << Jones. They have different goals, though. Cuban wants to win, but doesn't know how. Jones wants to win, but he wants to make money a lot more. Were we not in the salary cap era, Jones would be an awesome owner, but then so might Cuban.

Dallas41 · 03-26-2023, 04:07 PM

Dallas is allergic to rebounds
The Mavericks lost the rebounding battle by 21. This shouldn?t even be possible. It?s not like the Hornets possess a bunch of monsters on the glass. 6?7 PJ Washington bullied them for 12 boards and rookie Mark Williams grabbed 16 of his own. The Mavericks are obviously the worst rebounding team in the league but today they weren?t even trying. A complete embarrassment on the glass this afternoon.

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-26-2023, 04:22 PM

Rebounding is the achilles heel that has plagued this team for 10+ years. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

Dallas41 · 03-26-2023, 04:43 PM

I know the team was struggling prior to this incident but I think the league is going to do no favors for Dallas after Luka made that gesture of the refs being paid doing the Warriors game.

It's been all downhill since then

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-26-2023, 05:04 PM

The whole season has been shit though. Some people acting like this stuff has just been going on lately. No. The whole ship was sinking long ago. We made the Kyrie trade because of how desperate we were for anything better. Problem is that Kyrie solved zero of our issues.

We needed a guy like Vanderbilt. Sucks to say it because I like Kyrie, but the Russell/Vanderbilt/Bamba stuff the Lakers did made more sense. Hell, I just wanted Vanderbilt. Should tell you something that they are making better moves than us lately.

EricaLubarsky · 03-26-2023, 05:21 PM

Good loss

FreshJive · 03-26-2023, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

I honestly think Cuban refused to pay JB

There were two times that I thought we had offers on the table before the season, and then around, I think December or January, they looked the other way," Brunson said. "They had every right in the world to do so. I don't blame them for making any business decisions. That's on them."

Like over half of Mavs fans didn?t want to pay the guy. Cuban had experts telling him Brunson was the real deal before the season started. Unfortunately Nico was not one of those experts.

washedklean77 · 03-26-2023, 06:11 PM

"You are what your record says that you are." - Bill Parcels

BTW - last season's playoff run was lightning in a bottle like we've never seen and will likely never see again.

FreshJive · 03-26-2023, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by washedklean77

This is James Harden v2.0 when Harden was with the Rockets. He demanded so much from that franchise while everyone in the organization was downright terrified of him leaving. It's kind of ironic that Luka today is functioning just like Harden did back in the day in that Luka is having his very best season statistically. But at the same time, his absolute worse season from an overall productivity measure towards the overall team objectives.

Luka could demand a trade this offseason but if he doesn't change his ways (attitude, resistance towards playing decent defense, fitness/conditioning, regimen/lifestyle outside of basketball, etc), then he'll just be a top-of-the-line statistic achieving little bitch for the next team that he plays for - just like he is for the Mavs at this time.

JFC

SMC0007 · 03-26-2023, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Amarelooms

Cowboys are better. I?m looking forward to their season unlike the Mavs

Cowboys fn suck, like always.

Mark Cuban sucks

Jkidd sucks.

Dallas41 · 03-26-2023, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

Like over half of Mavs fans didn?t want to pay the guy. Cuban had experts telling him Brunson was the real deal before the season started. Unfortunately Nico was not one of those experts.

Early in Brunson's career I was not a big fan of his with Rick coaching.

I thought the way Rick used both JB and KP was was b.s.

I wasn't comfortable with JB until Kidd got here and dude became a better natural PG.

As for Cuban he doesn't get a pass because he was so quick to gift wrap contract extensions to both Powell and THJ knowing even at their best they both still had major flaws in their games.

I found it hard to believe anyone would have given Powell that contract he got and not alot of teams were enamored with THJ either yet the mavs ponyed up the money

It wouldn't shock me if Powell gets resigned again

BigDog63 · 03-27-2023, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Dallas is allergic to rebounds
The Mavericks lost the rebounding battle by 21. This shouldn?t even be possible. It?s not like the Hornets possess a bunch of monsters on the glass. 6?7 PJ Washington bullied them for 12 boards and rookie Mark Williams grabbed 16 of his own. The Mavericks are obviously the worst rebounding team in the league but today they weren?t even trying. A complete embarrassment on the glass this afternoon.

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It doesn't take a lot of skill or physical ability to block out. It takes want-to.

BigDog63 · 03-27-2023, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

I found it hard to believe anyone would have given Powell that contract he got and not alot of teams were enamored with THJ either yet the mavs ponyed up the money

Most fundamental rule in being a GM--understand the market value of your players. It's not what YOU might pay them, its what anybody else would. Jerruh sucks at this worse than Mavs FO.

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It wouldn't shock me if Powell gets resigned again

Probably will..he's a better player than his detractors think. Yes, various things he's not great at, but lots of things he is. That said...see above.

rimrocker · 03-27-2023, 02:47 AM

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Probably will..he's a better player than his detractors think. Yes, various things he's not great at, but lots of things he is. That said...see above.

Agree....with the exceptions of rebounding, shooting, and defense, DP is good at everything else.

EricaLubarsky · 03-27-2023, 10:27 AM

Luka out

Hoping for a loss tonight to solidify that 10 and start going for 9.

saclare · 03-27-2023, 10:49 AM

Sheeeeeesh this site really sucks w/r/t recovering passwords lol I couldn't log back in for about a week now it seems.

I won't go back and read everything from the shitshow this weekend, but I will eat crow. Most have been on top of Kidd's coaching abilities, or lack thereof, all season long. It's slowly burned in for me and hit a crux. Kidd simply lost this team and they aren't playing hard.

Flip side, I can sympathize with the shitshow roster he's had to deal with, from initial set-up, to injuries, to trades, etc. not the easiest job this year. I would not be shocked to see him back next season barring a complete collapse to this season.

There's underlying things going on, not the least of which is Luka's mental health. I found the reaction abhorrent from media and fans. Kid opens up about the struggles of this season and the weird take was to immediately blame Kyrie and others. How about his fucking mom of all people suing for naming rights etc.? That would take up a lot of head space in mine, don't know about y'all.

Either way, if the players are on board with giving it once last hail mary heave on the season, I'm with 'em all the way. If they lose without Luka tonight, then the smartest thing they could do is punt and do their best to keep the pick. Hard to do, but the flip side is the same in giving NYK a high teens pick.

purplefrog · 03-27-2023, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Luka out

Hoping for a loss tonight to solidify that 10 and start going for 9.

Now he is in....

https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...Technical-Foul

SMC0007 · 03-27-2023, 12:57 PM

League rescinding Lukas tech is just a backdoor means of fvcking us. Let the damn tank roll.

SMC0007 · 03-27-2023, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by saclare

Sheeeeeesh this site really sucks w/r/t recovering passwords lol I couldn't log back in for about a week now it seems.

I won't go back and read everything from the shitshow this weekend, but I will eat crow. Most have been on top of Kidd's coaching abilities, or lack thereof, all season long. It's slowly burned in for me and hit a crux. Kidd simply lost this team and they aren't playing hard.

Flip side, I can sympathize with the shitshow roster he's had to deal with, from initial set-up, to injuries, to trades, etc. not the easiest job this year. I would not be shocked to see him back next season barring a complete collapse to this season.

There's underlying things going on, not the least of which is Luka's mental health. I found the reaction abhorrent from media and fans. Kid opens up about the struggles of this season and the weird take was to immediately blame Kyrie and others. How about his fucking mom of all people suing for naming rights etc.? That would take up a lot of head space in mine, don't know about y'all.

Either way, if the players are on board with giving it once last hail mary heave on the season, I'm with 'em all the way. If they lose without Luka tonight, then the smartest thing they could do is punt and do their best to keep the pick. Hard to do, but the flip side is the same in giving NYK a high teens pick.

I wouldn't t be surprised to see Kidd back either. And that's a knock on Cuban. You gotta cut him loose. Cuban is thr only person who could even attempt to justify keeping Kid. I wanted to give him a chance when he was hired and I was glad we had that run to end our season. But you can't go rogue like he did starting in the offseason and just have nothing make sense to this day.

The only reason Kidd sticks around will be because Cuban is still the smartest guy in the room and he thinks he can give some wild ass nonsensical take and have everyone eat it up. His finger is so damn far off the pulse of this organization that it's hard to even stand in the fire for the Mavs anymore.

EricaLubarsky · 03-27-2023, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Now he is in....

https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...Technical-Foul

To be fair that was one of the worst technicals of all time.

Also the Mavs are worse with Luka and Kyrie so it may help us tank

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-27-2023, 01:44 PM

I feel the nail in the coffin for Kidd is Josh Green. That was his one one shiny coin that he totally ruined by jerking him in and out of the starting lineup. The result is Green having the worst game of his career last game.

Green is also nowhere near the same defender that he was earlier in the season.

purplefrog · 03-27-2023, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

I wouldn't t be surprised to see Kidd back either. And that's a knock on Cuban. You gotta cut him loose. Cuban is thr only person who could even attempt to justify keeping Kid. I wanted to give him a chance when he was hired and I was glad we had that run to end our season. But you can't go rogue like he did starting in the offseason and just have nothing make sense to this day.

The only reason Kidd sticks around will be because Cuban is still the smartest guy in the room and he thinks he can give some wild ass nonsensical take and have everyone eat it up. His finger is so damn far off the pulse of this organization that it's hard to even stand in the fire for the Mavs anymore.

(1) Losing two in a row to one of the worst teams in the NBA; (2) When you are trying to make the playoffs; (3) With arguably two of the Top 10 players in the world in the line-up. That's three strikes and you're out.

EricaLubarsky · 03-27-2023, 04:35 PM

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(1) Losing two in a row to one of the worst teams in the NBA; (2) When you are trying to make the playoffs; (3) With arguably two of the Top 10 players in the world in the line-up. That's three strikes and you're out.

Join me on the tanking bandwagon.

Let's be honest, this roster wasn't going anywhere even if they were well-coached.

I am cheering for a 9/10th worst record. Sucks to miss the playoffs but we can get a top-10 pick and retool this offseason-- maybe finally get a big because the NBA turned hard toward needing a center and Mavs are about the only "good" team in the west without a top-30 center.

Powell ain't going to cut it with the rule changes and talent lineups

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-27-2023, 04:43 PM

Pacers have all their main guys out ugh. We need to keep losing because we aren't a championship team. Getting a top 10 pick would actually be a big win, and I have a bit of faith now in the draft after getting Hardy.

EricaLubarsky · 03-27-2023, 04:59 PM

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Pacers have all their main guys out ugh. We need to keep losing because we aren't a championship team. Getting a top 10 pick would actually be a big win, and I have a bit of faith now in the draft after getting Hardy.

Gotta out-tank them

Our fate is in our hands, but every win we have risks a slide up toward the play-in and thus losing the pick.

Lots of Frank. Lots of Powell. Give Hardy a DNP. Encourage Luka to shoot 15 3-pters and continue his "league worst transition defense"

tap2390 · 03-27-2023, 05:09 PM

I?d be unsurprised if Carlisle out-tanked us this game to screw us over.

EricaLubarsky · 03-27-2023, 06:44 PM

Bad coming win

EricaLubarsky · 03-27-2023, 07:32 PM

Oof

Now blow the lead