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Old 10-11-2008, 11:23 AM   #1
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Michael Barone is not a wild-eyed political type. First they came for the lawyers...etc... The Obama brownshirts are showing what his "regime" would be like.

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The Coming Obama Thugocracy
Michael Barone
Saturday, October 11, 2008

"I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors," Barack Obama told a crowd in Elko, Nev. "I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face." Actually, Obama supporters are doing a lot more than getting into people's faces. They seem determined to shut people up.

That's what Obama supporters, alerted by campaign emails, did when conservative Stanley Kurtz appeared on Milt Rosenberg's WGN radio program in Chicago. Kurtz had been researching Obama's relationship with unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers in Chicago Annenberg Challenge papers in the Richard J. Daley Library in Chicago -- papers that were closed off to him for some days, apparently at the behest of Obama supporters.

Obama fans jammed WGN's phone lines and sent in hundreds of protest emails. The message was clear to anyone who would follow Rosenberg's example. We will make trouble for you if you let anyone make the case against The One.

Other Obama supporters have threatened critics with criminal prosecution. In September, St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch and St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce warned citizens that they would bring criminal libel prosecutions against anyone who made statements against Obama that were "false." I had been under the impression that the Alien and Sedition Acts had gone out of existence in 1801-02. Not so, apparently, in metropolitan St. Louis. Similarly, the Obama campaign called for a criminal investigation of the American Issues Project when it ran ads highlighting Obama's ties to Ayers.

These attempts to shut down political speech have become routine for liberals. Congressional Democrats sought to reimpose the "fairness doctrine" on broadcasters, which until it was repealed in the 1980s required equal time for different points of view. The motive was plain: to shut down the one conservative-leaning communications medium, talk radio. Liberal talk-show hosts have mostly failed to draw audiences, and many liberals can't abide having citizens hear contrary views.

To their credit, some liberal old-timers -- like House Appropriations Chairman David Obey -- voted against the "fairness doctrine," in line with their longstanding support of free speech. But you can expect the "fairness doctrine" to get another vote if Barack Obama wins and Democrats increase their congressional majorities.

Corporate liberals have done their share in shutting down anti-liberal speech, too. "Saturday Night Live" ran a spoof of the financial crisis that skewered Democrats like House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank and liberal contributors Herbert and Marion Sandler, who sold toxic-waste-filled Golden West to Wachovia Bank for $24 billion. Kind of surprising, but not for long. The tape of the broadcast disappeared from NBC's Website and was replaced with another that omitted the references to Frank and the Sandlers. Evidently NBC and its parent, General Electric, don't want people to hear speech that attacks liberals.

Then there's the Democrats' "card check" legislation, which would abolish secret ballot elections in determining whether employees are represented by unions. The unions' strategy is obvious: Send a few thugs over to employees' homes -- we know where you live -- and get them to sign cards that will trigger a union victory without giving employers a chance to be heard.

Once upon a time, liberals prided themselves, with considerable reason, as the staunchest defenders of free speech. Union organizers in the 1930s and 1940s made the case that they should have access to employees to speak freely to them, and union leaders like George Meany and Walter Reuther were ardent defenders of the First Amendment.

Today's liberals seem to be taking their marching orders from other quarters. Specifically, from the college and university campuses where administrators, armed with speech codes, have for years been disciplining and subjecting to sensitivity training any students who dare to utter thoughts that liberals find offensive. The campuses that used to pride themselves as zones of free expression are now the least free part of our society.

Obama supporters who found the campuses congenial and Obama himself, who has chosen to live all his adult life in university communities, seem to find it entirely natural to suppress speech that they don't like and seem utterly oblivious to claims that this violates the letter and spirit of the First Amendment. In this campaign, we have seen the coming of the Obama thugocracy, suppressing free speech, and we may see its flourishing in the four or eight years ahead.
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for a little less slanted view on the subject...
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09.27.2008 5:49 pm
McCain-Obama battle over Missouri “Truth Squad”
By: Jo Mannies
With the Missouri polls showing a dead heat between Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, every campaign move is igniting scrutiny.

That’s the backdrop over a two-day dust-up that is attracting local TV coverage, and has even ignited a Web fight between the Drudge Report and the Daily Kos.

At issue is a new Obama “Truth Squad” formed in the state.

(As an aside, please note that both sides have “Truth Squads” in numerous states, under numerous titles. McCain’s campaign has an Honest and Open Election Committee, whose Missouri members include former Sen. John Danforth and U.S. Rep. Jo Ann Emerson, and another state McCain group monitoring any Democratic jabs at Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.)

Obama’s Missouri Truth Squad members include St. Louis Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer and St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch, among others.

The inclusion of such officials has led to Gov. Matt Blunt, among other Republicans, to accuse the Obama camp of planning “to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics.”

That tack was repeated in a conference call Saturday, where Republican National Committee deputy chairman Frank Donatelli said that the issue was the inclusion of law-enforcement officials on Obama’s squad. He called for Joyce, McCulloch, et al to step down.

In a statement Saturday (issued from the governor’s office), Blunt went further and contended that the state Obama campaign and its allies, including U.S. Sen. Claire McCaskill “have attached the stench of police state tactics…”

His assertion was that the squad might prosecute people deemed to have made inaccurate or inappropriate claims against Obama.

“Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them,” Blunt said in the statement. “Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.”

Obama’s national campaign manager David Plouffe said Saturday that Truth Squads simply monitor attacks and refute them.

Later, state communications director Debbie Mesloh issued a statement that called it “the height of absurdity” for the GOP to contend that the Obama squad planned to go to court or jail critics.

She contended that Blunt, Donatelli, et al are out “to deceive voters about the role of respected Missourians across the state who want to see this election be about the truth, not false attacks like the ones we’ve seen today.

“Barack Obama’s Truth Squad is comprised of members of the community who – on their own time – are dedicated to raising the level of discourse in this campaign…,” she added.

By the way, a quick surf of the Internet found a McCain Truth Squad in New Hampshire, formed last January, that included several public officials with prosecutorial powers, including the state attorney general.

However, state Republicans have sent out a list of dozens of officeholders — who are lawmakers, not law enforcers — who they said make up the bulk of McCain’s Truth Squads around the country.
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Mavdog, I don't see anything in the article that you cited that contradicts anything Barone said. And I agree with dude. Barone isn't some sort of blind partisan.
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Obama’s national campaign manager David Plouffe said Saturday that Truth Squads simply monitor attacks and refute them..
While the Obama campaign sends out alerts for their supporters to shout down and intimidate those who criticize the messiah and any media outlet that dares give them a forum.
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Funny...those dang radical beverly hills partisans.

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/diarie...-intimidation/
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New trouble brewing for Obama – intimidation in Missouri tip of iceberg

Citizen groups say “We Will Not Be Silenced”

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Friday, October 3, 2008 at 04:50PM CDT

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LOS ANGELES (10/1) – Today a Beverly Hills based film producer Bettina Viviano, founder of Viviano Entertainment, announced the start of a “30 Day Campaign for Truth” about presidential hopeful Barack Obama. The campaign will center on a documentary film entitled “We Will Not Be Silenced” produced by Viviano Entertainment and directed by Gigi Gaston. See www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com.

The 30 Day Campaign for Truth will include the presentation of substantial evidence of a pattern of threats, voter intimidation, criminal violations, violation of Democratic party rules, unfair and unethical acts, and various statewide caucus irregularities that occurred across the nation in the Democratic Primaries. Similar conduct is now continuing in the general election.

According to Viviano, “over the next 30 days we will show that what the Obama campaign admittedly did in Missouri is just the tip of the iceberg. Recently, Missouri Governor Matt Blunt said Senator Claire McCaskill, Missouri prosecutors and sheriffs ‘have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.’ Governor Blunt also added, ‘Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.’”

The documentary “We Will Not Be Silenced” shows that there were thousands of complaints to the DNC about illegal and improper conduct by the Obama Campaign during the caucuses and it establishes, among other things, falsification of documents, that results were changed, that unregistered people were allowed to vote, that there were threats to Hillary supporters to scare and intimidate them, that they were stalked, and even locked out of their polling places.

“We Will Not Be Silenced” presents interviews with numerous witnesses including teachers, professors, civil rights activists, lawyers, janitors, physicists, ophthalmologists, accountants, mathematicians, retirees and others in caucus states. They recount their personal stories of threats, acts of intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents and much more. According to screenwriter/director Gigi Gaston, a Hillary supporter, “everyone turned a blind eye to thousands of complaints - at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone. The DNC and the media chose to sweep this under the rug by looking the other way. It is as though they had their pick from the beginning and were going to make sure they had a winner. It is not that Hillary lost, rather how she lost that concerns me. What are my party’s principles, and why would they turn their back on millions of voters who cried out for justice?”

Viviano concluded, “I believe the leadership of the Democratic Party participated in the suppression of questionable, unfair, unethical, and sometimes criminal practices by the Obama campaign and disregarded thousands of complaints about such conduct in order to assure a victory by Obama in the Democratic Primary. Now Obama continues his thug tactics and no one says anything. The Chicago way is not the American way.”

The “30 Day Campaign for Truth” will include numerous nationwide press releases to at least 1,400 media outlets; presentations on numerous blogs; You Tube presentations; press conferences and a viewing of the documentary. Numerous groups including Cristi Adkins and Clintons4McCain.com, The NoOBamaProject.com, CitizenAdvocates.org, YouTube sensations Paul F. Villarreal and John D. Villarreal with Villarreal Media, and others will participate.
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John Sydney McCain Thugocracy in action.

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Compare and contrast the statements of Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain.

Hussein: “I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.”

Mac08: “We want to fight, and I will fight but we will be respectful. I admire Senator Obama and his accomplishments. I will respect him. I want everyone to be respectful and lets make sure we are because that’s the way politics should be conducted… now I don’t mean that has to reduce your ferocity. I just mean its got to be respectful. OK?”
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If you're going to listen to Mac08, listen to Mac08:

And for the second time in three days, a speaker at a Republican rally invoked Obama's middle name, Hussein, in an apparent attempt to feed lingering fears about the Democrat's background.

Lehigh County Republican Chairman Bill Platt twice used Obama's middle name before McCain and Palin arrived at the campaign stop in the town of Bethlehem. The campaign quickly issued a statement saying it did not condone "this inappropriate rhetoric."

McCain has called the use of Obama's middle name both improper and inappropriate and once apologized after a supporter warming up a rally used it. Hussein is a common name in Muslim cultures and its use in the campaign is seen as an effort to link Obama to radical Islam even though he is a Christian. Obama's father was a Muslim from Kenya.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10...ldnt-say-face/
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Mac is free to do what he wants. Hussein was willing to give islamic terrorists a victory in Iraq. He's shown who he sides with. Either through his stupidity or his feelings about america's place in the world.
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Mavdog, I don't see anything in the article that you cited that contradicts anything Barone said. And I agree with dude. Barone isn't some sort of blind partisan.
the article correctly points out that these "truth squads" are utilized by both parties as a weapon against misinformation.

to charaterize obama and the dems as being guilty of "thuggery" must be applied to both parties if that is the conclusion, a conclusion that I disagree with btw.
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the article correctly points out that these "truth squads" are utilized by both parties as a weapon against misinformation.

to charaterize obama and the dems as being guilty of "thuggery" must be applied to both parties if that is the conclusion, a conclusion that I disagree with btw.
Respectfully, you're wrong. Applying the label "truth squads" to both doesn't mean that the conduct has been the same. Show me a story about a McCain truth squad threatening prosecution for libel in the event of false statements made about McCain, and then I'll agree with you that they're both equal.
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I don't recall any campaign against mccain that lied about his religion, his place of birth, or his citizenship such as been waged against obama.

have you?
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I don't recall any campaign against mccain that lied about his religion, his place of birth, or his citizenship such as been waged against obama.

have you?
So you're saying that McCain's campaign did that?
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mccain supporters, yes.

whether they are in the mccain campaign I cannot say.
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Obama's supporters are threatening violence if the messiah doesn't win, how's that for thuggery.

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Civil rights icon and Georgia congressman John Lewis is accusing John McCain and Sarah Palin of stoking hate, likening the atmosphere at Republican campaign events to those featuring George Wallace, the segregationist former governor of Alabama and presidential candidate.

"What I am seeing reminds me too much of another destructive period in American history," Lewis said in a statement issued today. "Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse."

Lewis didn't accuse McCain of imitating Wallace, but suggested there were similarities.
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CARVILLE: Let me be clear, I said you can call the dogs and light the fire and leave the house. I think it sounds over.

Now let me be clear here, if Obama goes in this race with a 5- point lead and losing this election, the consequences are -- bull, man. I mean I don't think that's going to happen, but I think David it's a point to bring up.

But you stop and contemplate this country if Obama goes in and he has a consistent five point lead and loses the election, it would be very, very, very dramatic out there.
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what? neither statement "threatens violence".
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mccain supporters, yes.

whether they are in the mccain campaign I cannot say.
Right, so back to the issue at hand: Show me a story about a McCain truth squad threatening prosecution for libel in the event of false statements made about McCain, and then I'll agree with you that they're both equal.

Also, FWIW, it's a fairly cheap shot (and an incredible stretch) for you to link lies about Obama's "religion, his place of birth, or his citizenship" to McCain.

There are incorrigible and detestable characters that "support" both McCain and Obama. That doesn't mean you can attribute their actions to the candidates.
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what? neither statement "threatens violence".
No, it just suggests that it would occur.
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no, one comment suggests it could occur.
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Have we gone too far to where civility and unity are impossible after this election?

Not only are we French economically, but now we're freaking Soviets politically. Way to go everyone. I'd rather we ended up with some sort of Machiavellian Prince.

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Joseph Paranteau woke up on a recent morning and realized that the John McCain sign on his front lawn was nowhere to be found. In its place stood a Barack Obama sign.

At first, the Plano homeowner thought it was a joke from of one of his friends, but as he looked down the street he knew something was amiss. Dozens of McCain signs on Belgium Drive had disappeared overnight and been replaced with Obama signs. Others were defaced to say “McPain.”
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“The reason it bothered me was the people who did it — whether they be juveniles or adults — tried to take away someone’s political voice,” said Mr. Paranteau, 41, who reported the crime to police. “It saddens me. I would have rather have someone knock on my door and ask me about John McCain.”

Police in North Texas say what happened to Mr. Paranteau is fairly common, particularly during presidential elections. But it’s hard for authorities to quantify the problem or catch the culprits because many people don’t report it.

Jonathan Neerman, the Dallas County Republican Party chairman, recently experienced the issue first hand when someone stole three signs from his front yard. Still, he said he encourages supporters not to bother police.

“Police have other things to worry about,” he said. “We encourage them to get new signs, and we try to take note of the cases so we have anecdotal evidence.”

Political leaders say it’s hard to tell whether there has been an increase in vandalism during this year’s election, but many of them have received dozens of reports in recent weeks.

Money isn’t the issue — McCain signs are free and Obama signs cost $5. But replacing lost signs is both irritating and offensive to many people.

Dan Dodd, chairman of the Collin County Democratic Party, said the public needs to remember that defacing or destroying political signs is against the law. It can lead to a misdemeanor charge of criminal mischief and a fine of up to $500.

“Signs have been defaced on both sides,” Mr. Dodd said. “It is against the law. People should promote their party, not deface the other side.”

Mr. Dodd has drafted a letter to raise awareness about the crime and hopes other political and civic leaders will sign it. He said posting the letter next to political signs might help deter people from destroying them.

Fred Moses, chairman of the Collin County Republican Party, said he knows of at least 30 signs that have been destroyed or defaced recently, but he doesn’t think a letter will make a difference.

Mr. Paranteau has his own solution.

“I set up a motion activated camera, and I am going to put one of my signs out there as bait,” he said. “Maybe it will be a 70-year-old lady.”

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VANDAL -OBAMA1 Vandals, aka, ignorant, racists have come out from the slimy rock they live under to paint 60 cars with derogatory [tag]anti-Obama[/tag] messages. No big surprise as it was just a matter of time that this sort of thing would happen with all of the as*holes in the world.

Police on Sunday were investigating [tag]vandals[/tag]‘ spray-painting of dozens of city vehicles in Orlando Florida, some with disparaging messages about the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

Authorities think the vandalism to about 60 vehicles, estimated at $10,000 in damage, was done Saturday afternoon, police spokeswoman Sgt. Barbara Jones said.

The vehicles were parked across from City Hall and investigators said culprits tagged messages including "Obama smokes crack" and a racial epithet. What a shocker!

They even left business cards on the vehicles that disparage both the Illinois senator and his rival, Republican John McCain. The cards voice support for Sen. Hillary Clinton, Obama’s former opponent.

Mike Lowe, a videographer working for The Associated Press, first told police about the damage. He saw three cars with anti-Obama VANDAL -OBAMA2messages, while the others were just heavily painted.

Police also found that many of the vehicles had open gas tanks.

Clinton won the Florida Democratic primary, but the contest was held early in violation of party rules. Party leaders initially said the state’s delegates would not be seated as punishment, then eventually agreed to seat half of them at the national convention.

Clinton’s supporters wanted the state’s delegation fully restored. Instead, the compromise pushed Obama toward the nomination.

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I don't recall any campaign against mccain that lied about his religion, his place of birth, or his citizenship such as been waged against obama.

have you?
Just questioned VP's daughters baby's parentage, illegally broke into her personal email accounts, published a bogus transcript and talked about how she would be gang-raped if she came to new york. Those sweetness and light liberals.
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Mac08: “We want to fight, and I will fight but we will be respectful. I admire THAT ONE and his accomplishments. I will respect THAT ONE. I want everyone to be respectful and lets make sure we are because that’s the way politics should be conducted… now I don’t mean that has to reduce your ferocity. I just mean its got to be respectful. OK?”

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Is anyone debating that Palin's daughter is the mother of the baby in her belly?

Did you mean VP's baby's parentage? Cause i did hear the tabloidesque rumor that Trig is actually Palin's daughter's baby. But that's the conspiracy of all conspiracies.

but could it be true?

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Is anyone debating that Palin's daughter is the mother of the baby in her belly?

Did you mean VP's baby's parentage? Cause i did hear the tabloidesque rumor that Trig is actually Palin's daughter's baby. But that's the conspiracy of all conspiracies.

but could it be true?

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Not any more, go read sullivan, he was suggesting that the daughter had trig and the mom claimed him to protect her within a week or so of her announcing. This was published in the Atlantic, not even the koskids site. The messiah bitching about smear jobs is rich.
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Where's the thuggery? The article speaks on how McCain's campaign events are similar to those of George Wallace's klan rally's. It doesn't say a thing about violence.
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Not any more, go read sullivan, he was suggesting that the daughter had trig and the mom claimed him to protect her within a week or so of her announcing. This was published in the Atlantic, not even the koskids site. The messiah bitching about smear jobs is rich.
Conventional wisdom is that the daughter couldn't have had the baby, because she was busy having teen sex while her parents weren't parenting.
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Where's the thuggery? The article speaks on how McCain's campaign events are similar to those of George Wallace's klan rally's. It doesn't say a thing about violence.
Come on now, you know that is just another code word they use for "Black".
I told you guys how much racism is here on this message board. "Thuggery". I tell you these people have went to the lowest standards to scare white voters away from Obama. It is very clear on why words like this is chosen. But, like I said before, Sad or Expected? Or both??????

Did you notice how they then tried to play the thuggery bit off by saying the thuggery of McCain, was being such a nice and polite guy???? It is just sickening to see this here on this message board.

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those singular voices out in the wilderness do not compare to the cacophony of screams with their shrill voices going on and on for months and months.
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Come on now, you know that is just another code word they use for "Black".
I told you guys how much racism is here on this message board. "Thuggery". I tell you these people have went to the lowest standards to scare white voters away from Obama. It is very clear on why words like this is chosen. But, like I said before, Sad or Expected? Or both??????

Did you notice how they then tried to play the thuggery bit off by saying the thuggery of McCain, was being such a nice and polite guy???? It is just sickening to see this here on this message board.
I know exactly what he means by "thuggery". I just wanted to see if he'd admit it himself rather than try to throw it in there as a subliminal. I see it all day everyday during this campaign. Its sad but its somewhat expected. It will only get worse once this election gets closer. I'm more ashamed by posters on this site considering minorities to be such animals to where they'd get violent if a black man with white ancestry doesn't get into office. I'm disappointed by the posters on this site.
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It is mildly--but only just so--entertaining to watch hardcore right-wingers such as dude and KG spew outrage and logically fallacious arguments.

I could do without that entertainment, though. I'd rather they just approached the issues with intellectual honesty.
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I tell you these people have went to the lowest standards to scare white voters away from Obama. It is very clear on why words like this is chosen. But, like I said before, Sad or Expected? Or both??????

Did you notice how they then tried to play the thuggery bit off by saying the thuggery of McCain, was being such a nice and polite guy???? It is just sickening to see this here on this message board.
I absolutely will not tolerate these coded allegations of micropenis directed at my fellow posters! It is one thing to disagree on the issues, but to use these codewords to question the manhood of fellow Americans??????

This is entirely unacceptable and I call on all decent posters to reject and repudiate these comments!
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Come on now, you know that is just another code word they use for "Black".
I told you guys how much racism is here on this message board. "Thuggery". I tell you these people have went to the lowest standards to scare white voters away from Obama. It is very clear on why words like this is chosen. But, like I said before, Sad or Expected? Or both??????

Did you notice how they then tried to play the thuggery bit off by saying the thuggery of McCain, was being such a nice and polite guy???? It is just sickening to see this here on this message board.
that's bs. the word "thug" doesn't have any racial connotation.

there are thugs of every persuasion.

remember the story of peter and the wolf? you seem to find elements of racism where they really aren't there, and when it does rear its ugly head the screams about it will not have much of an afffect.
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Isn't the term 'thug' used rather heavily in the NHL?.. especially 10-20 years ago? I suppose it's probably used to describe the hundreds of African Americans that were playing in the NHL at the time.
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Now using the word thug is racist. Good grief....I've never seen such a thin skinned candidate.
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Wait, Silk Smoov is running for president, too? Or are you saying Obama is posting here under the username Silk Smoov?
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It wasn't "thug." It was "thugocracy." But I guess the reason you are getting the reaction you are getting is that reasonable folks figure that when you pepper every thread with "Hussein" you are injecting race into the discussion.

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It wasn't "thug." It was "thugocracy." But I guess the reason you are getting the reaction you are getting is that reasonable folks figure that when you pepper every thread with "Hussein" you are injecting race into the discussion.

Please.
I just figure that any criticism of obama is going to be criticized as racist, which it has throughout the media and here as well.
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I just figure that any criticism of obama is going to be criticized as racist, which it has throughout the media and here as well.
You just figure that? You "just figure" that? That's why you type "Hussein" as often as you can?

Keep it coming, big boy. All it does is encourage free-thinking Americans all the more.

Careful, though, or you will cross that line between being yourself and being a caricature of yourself. If you haven't already.
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You just figure that? You "just figure" that? That's why you type "Hussein" as often as you can?

Keep it coming, big boy. All it does is encourage free-thinking Americans all the more.

Careful, though, or you will cross that line between being yourself and being a caricature of yourself. If you haven't already.
I type hussein because I don't like that he picked Al Queda over the US in Iraq...And I don't quite believe I give two nickels what you think about it.
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I type hussein because I don't like that he picked Al Queda over the US in Iraq....
Didn't a bi-partisan 9/11 Commission (in conjunction with the FBI & CIA) already conclude that there was NO link between al Qaeda and Iraq four years ago???


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