On Deck : Government Universal Health Care

[Mavdog]

Originally Posted by dude1394

I believe there is room for debate here. When you consider a baby under 500kg is considered already dead versus alive until deceased, it appears to change the equation. It appears the statistics need a little more examination than our media (and politicians I expect) are capable of.

so your argument is the numbers are not reliable?

really?

hmm, seems that the cia factbook should be reliable, and it says we're not doing so well in this regard.

or are you going to "kill the messenger"?

I'm also skeptical that availability of health care is the issue here as much as maturity to utilize it. For example it appears that free pre-natal care is pretty readily available.

it's available if 1) the mother is aware, 2) the mother is educated on why they need it, and 3) the mother can access the help (ie can get there to receive it).

it's about the delivery of healthcare. the providors exist, there's no debate about that.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by Mavdog

it's available if 1) the mother is aware, 2) the mother is educated on why they need it, and 3) the mother can access the help (ie can get there to receive it).

it's about the delivery of healthcare. the providors exist, there's no debate about that.

So how about instead of 1 trillion dollars they spend some to make them aware? If the bill itself would take some time to honestly address those issues, you might see a different debate occurring....but it's become quite a bit like climate change, religious in nature.