NBA Season 16-17: General Thread - Page 4 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Bryan_Wilson · 01-05-2017, 07:58 PM

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@ShamsCharania: Atlanta is finalizing a deal to send guard Kyle Korver to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Wow, he will fit in perfectly there.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-05-2017, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@ShamsCharania: Atlanta is finalizing a deal to send guard Kyle Korver to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Woj- Sources: Atlanta and Cleveland are finalizing terms on Korver deal, with Mike Dunleavy Jr., likely moving onto a third team through Atlanta.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-05-2017, 08:36 PM

Lots of speculation that this could be domino one of a rebuild that would include moving Milsap.

Underdog · 01-05-2017, 08:38 PM

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Lots of speculation that this could be domino one of a rebuild that would include moving Milsap.

I'm sure this is exactly what Dwight Howard signed up for...

Underdog · 01-05-2017, 08:39 PM

@WindhorstESPN: Cavs are making a separate deal with Blazers. They will trade their 2017 1st to get their 2018 first back, sources said.

@WojVerticalNBA: For now, Dunleavy could park in Atlanta, but Hawks are motivated to him elsewhere, league sources tell @TheVertical.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-05-2017, 08:51 PM

Woj- As Atlanta moves Korver to Cleveland, Hawks are actively in trade talks with several teams on Paul Milsap, league sources tell @TheVertical.

And it's happening.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-05-2017, 09:01 PM

Looking like a 1st for Korver then if they are trading to get their 1st back this year? Maybe Bogut can be worth a 1 after all.....

Bryan_Wilson · 01-05-2017, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Looking like a 1st for Korver then if they are trading to get their 1st back this year? Maybe Bogut can be worth a 1 after all.....

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The Cavaliers and Hawks are still finalizing the terms of the trade, with a 2019 first-round pick and Mike Dunleavy Jr. going to Atlanta, league sources said.

The Hawks have been searching for a third team to acquire Dunleavy Jr., but he could park in Atlanta for now, league sources told The Vertical.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources...014038804.html

mac222b · 01-06-2017, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Looking like a 1st for Korver then if they are trading to get their 1st back this year? Maybe Bogut can be worth a 1 after all.....

Could go either way. Maybe Celtics are less inclined to deal for Bogut after this. Is Toronto a viable option if Raps don't swing a deal for Millsap?

EricaLubarsky · 01-05-2017, 09:44 PM

Good god, it's an arms race.

Too bad GSW can't take Bogut back. Might be fun to see every team in the league just dump talent on GSW and CLE

Underdog · 01-05-2017, 10:22 PM

@RealSkipBayless: How does LeBron keep getting such valuable help - JR, Shump, Frye, now KYLE KORVER??? Does he call commish, say hey, get me Korver???

Bryan_Wilson · 01-06-2017, 02:55 AM

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Frye is shooting a career-high 46.5 percent from 3-point range this season, and that's not some kind of crazy coincidence. He found his chemistry with James during the playoffs last year -- he made 56.5 percent of his 3s in the postseason -- and he's been rolling ever since. If anyone can tell Korver about the LeBron effect, it's him.

Much has been made of Korver losing a step over the last couple of seasons. He looks slower, his shooting has regressed from holy s--! to wow! and, well, he's 35 years old. Still, he has a 60.8 percent effective field percentage on catch-and-shoot attempts and is making 49 percent of his wide-open 3-pointers this season, per NBA.com. Translation: you can't leave him open, and James will be constantly looking to set him up for 3-pointers the same way he did with Ray Allen years ago.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/wh...a-perfect-fit/

Ugh....

BPo001 · 01-06-2017, 06:10 PM

Marc Stein: Denver’s Alonzo Gee, Dallas’ Pierre Jackson and Phoenix’s John Jenkins were also waived today, sources say
– via Twitter ESPNSteinLine

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-08-2017, 05:54 PM

Sixers won so there is still hope for a top three pick.

EricaLubarsky · 01-08-2017, 08:39 PM

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Sixers won so there is still hope for a top three pick.

East will be the East. I think we're going to have to tank really hard to beat Philly (10 wins) , Miami (11 wins) and Brooklyn (8 wins)

On the other hand, we play the Wolves tomorrow. If we can somehow manage to lose that game, we'll be in sole possession of last place in the West and 4th worst record overall.

Thebo · 01-09-2017, 10:28 AM

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East will be the East. I think we're going to have to tank really hard to beat Philly (10 wins) , Miami (11 wins) and Brooklyn (8 wins)

Hope is Ben Simmons changes things when he is healthy. Both teams are also having issues with point guards not being able to play. Mavs are stacked with serviceable point guards... Perhaps they should help both teams out...

Anyways, I hope Mavs end up with top5 pick. It is not too unrealistic and Mavs are mostly competing with Heat with who ends up having sixth pick. Pat Riley has obviously been trying to tank.

sefant77 · 01-09-2017, 10:24 PM

Riley has no shame and is going to outtank everyone. First thing will be him shipping out Dragic at the TDL.

Sixers are still too young, i also dont see us outtanking the three leastern teams...

EricaLubarsky · 01-09-2017, 11:04 PM

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Derrick Rose did not show up for the New York Knicks' game on Monday against the New Orleans Pelicans.

"There are team officials, teammates and close associates unclear of reason for Derrick Rose's absence for Knicks-Pelicans at MSG," wrote Wojnarowski.

Uh oh

Thebo · 01-10-2017, 12:02 AM

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Uh oh

According to the reports, he misplaced one of his glass knees and could not find it in time. One the lighter tone, he helped Pelicans to win one, which is good for the Mavs.

sefant77 · 01-10-2017, 08:19 AM

Knicks are going to blow it up too, trade Carmella and taaank

EricaLubarsky · 01-10-2017, 12:05 PM

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@FisolaNYDN
There are strong indications that Derrick Rose returned to his hometown of Chicago.

Rose says it's a "family situation" and flew back to Chicago, but it was the day after he was benched and he did not contact the team in any way prior to the game. The Rose/Rondo years may be up finally.

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-10-2017, 12:11 PM

Yeah family situation my ass. Teams need to start cracking down on this crap. Rose is just butt sore with the knowledge that no team is going to give him a big extension.

Thebo · 01-12-2017, 01:22 AM

Great night for Mavs. Sixers winning, even though Rose found his knees and dropped 25. Double whammy for Wolves kicking Harden's butt. Portland beating Cavs gives mixed feelings. They are slightly edging away from chasing 9th team, but at the same time Mavs' public hopes of playoffs also get dimmer, which is nice.

And Parsons, who was supposed to be off from 15-min restriction, ends up with 18 minutes and 14 points. Scoring stat looks fine, but 0 rebounds once again proves why I never valued him as highly.

Mavs have to keep losing during this tough time. Once 8th spot of Portland has gone away and built enough distance, we will see teams tanking. Although I do not get how Suns are not already tanking.

On the East side, I really thought that Knicks would be a low-seeded playoff team. They can end up in the playoffs, but they are still outside looking in.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-12-2017, 09:12 AM

https://twitter.com/SeanCunningham/s...76297179598848

What an awkward moment... one reporter says no comment, the other says no lol.

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-12-2017, 11:15 AM

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https://twitter.com/SeanCunningham/s...76297179598848

What an awkward moment... one reporter says no comment, the other says no lol.

It is rather interesting to see what happens when the reporters are put in the spotlight. Clever move by a guy who has had issues with writers.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-12-2017, 05:17 PM

Nuggets just hung 140 on Indiana for their 15th win.

Budapest Maverick · 01-14-2017, 07:58 AM

The Sixers and the Wolves look amazing right now. It's like they are finally realizing how much talent they have. Thibs taking his head out of his behind helped too, and now that they let Rubio have the ball in his hand, they look like an easy playoff team. Let's see if they can do their thing against us as well. Fingers crossed.

EricaLubarsky · 01-14-2017, 10:12 AM

Grizz are impressive, despite Parsons being utter trash.

Parsons 1-7 and not much else (-11), but they top the Rockets. They're the giant killers this year. Allen went 9-10.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-16-2017, 06:54 PM

76ers won again. 6-2 in their last 8.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-17-2017, 12:06 AM

https://www.follownews.com/after-leb...im-video-2enk0

spreedom · 01-17-2017, 02:22 AM

Dirty play by Draymond, muted somewhat by LeBron's overly dramatic pose at the end.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-17-2017, 02:50 AM

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Dirty play by Draymond, muted somewhat by LeBron's overly dramatic pose at the end.

I thought it was a hard foul for sure, borderline dirty maybe. But Lebron's sniper in the crowd imitation was over the top. He would have got the call without that embellishment I thought. As Harp would say- "He fouled him out there in front of God and everybody".

tap2390 · 01-17-2017, 09:06 AM

Draymond' going to get what's coming to him. The dirty, obnoxious twats always do.

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-17-2017, 05:10 PM

Woj reporting that the Wolves are actively trying to trade Rubio.

His game is very similar to Rondo's. Just seems like it's hard to impossible for a guard to make it today's game if you can't shoot.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-17-2017, 05:38 PM

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Woj reporting that the Wolves are actively trying to trade Rubio.

His game is very similar to Rondo's. Just seems like it's hard to impossible for a guard to make it today's game if you can't shoot.

Agreed. I will say he is infinitely better at defense at this stage of their careers though. But still...

Hard Pass.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-17-2017, 08:06 PM

CP3 out 6-8 weeks with ligament tear in his thumb.

Thebo · 01-17-2017, 08:28 PM

I would not mind Rubio. You would have to give up guard though, with Powell. I do not like Rubio on 3 year contract, though. Why I like Rubio? He will help lose games and I would gladly give up Harris with Powell to keep Seth his minutes.

Underdog · 01-17-2017, 09:18 PM

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I would not mind Rubio. You would have to give up guard though, with Powell. I do not like Rubio on 3 year contract, though. Why I like Rubio? He will help lose games and I would gladly give up Harris with Powell to keep Seth his minutes.

But what good is it to get a high pick in a draft that's loaded with PGs when you have Rubio under contract for the next couple seasons?

Plus, anything you give up to get him will be a waste of assets because I'm gonna kneecap him the second he sets foot in Dallas...

Thebo · 01-17-2017, 10:45 PM

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But what good is it to get a high pick in a draft that's loaded with PGs when you have Rubio under contract for the next couple seasons?

I can give you that. With all of this mess Mavs trying to lose, it is hard to keep in mind that Mavs will draft PG. Although they may end up not having any good enough available once their pick comes.

Rubio's contract is not awful. It is just 1 year too long. Mavs are not going to get any big names this offseasons, mainly because there are none available in a position that Mavs have a need at. (other than Greg Monroe and nobody wants him on a big long term contract).

I am only open to trade for Rubio because it will make Mavs worse. This season and next season. I have zero belief that he would develop jumpshot. Rondo has proven that, although his own ego has inhibited it. But another example is MCW who spent a season under Kidd's guidance - both similar style of players, yet even Kidd could not make MCW understand that he needs to hit threes to have any value in this league.

Oh yeah, I want to add that with Rubio I want two 2nd round draft picks at minimum also. Or lottery protected 1st. I am not talking about straight trade for Rubio.

Bryan_Wilson · 01-18-2017, 06:17 AM

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/re...at-make-sense/

According to this they are trying to move Shabazz with Rubio. And they are wanting a stop gap pg in return to bridge the gap to Dunn playing in the future. And this doesn't read like a dump situation, more like a give us something in return situation. I'm not touching either of those dudes without getting a 1st and or Dieng/Lavine/Wiggins and they aren't putting any of those in it looks like. Not to mention I would be shocked if Dwill would agree to go to Minnesota and if Minnesota wanted him on only a 1 year deal when the goal is a stop gap.