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How about ...
Here´s another trade idea after tampering with the things currently on the market ...
Dallas Trades Josh Howard Brandon Bass Jerry Stackhouse and cash to Indiana for Troy Murphy Jamaal Tinsley a future first? We´d get some insurance in case the Kidd thing doesnt work out in Tinsley, and we´d be able to move either one at the trade deadline after we´ve seen how the season went by till this point. Murphy is a reliable backup to Dirk (I expect him to be more consistent than Bass actually), and we´d be in position to maybe trade Terry (or Damp?) with the roster after the trade.
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who are we getting that makes giving up jho worthwhile? Dirk and Kidds new backups?
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08-07-2008, 09:59 AM
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Well that just solidified our starting SG needs.
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That just makes us worse, I would keep bass and howard instead.
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08-07-2008, 10:08 AM
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08-07-2008, 10:13 AM
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I...er.....what?
This is, quite possibly, the worst Mavs trade idea I've ever seen. Like, did you leave a name out coming back from Indy? Did you mean to have Danny Granger coming back? I'm so confused.
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08-07-2008, 10:16 AM
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Yeah, this is pretty terrible.
Is it a joke?
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08-07-2008, 04:45 PM
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No it´s not a joke. I don´t think the real value of Josh Howard / Bass is evaluated right.
I´m pretty sure you can´t get anything out of Josh right now - getting Tinsley and a First for him and getting the ability to deal the Kidd contract at the Trade Deadline (or Tinsley then, or Terry / Damp now) would create more flexibility to actually do something than keeping Josh now. The point is whether you´re willing to give up on him. I have. Not offering him for Artest was a straight mistake. Troy Murphy for Bass actually is gaining size over raw power. I´d call this part a wash. Do you really think you can get BETTER for Josh out there? I seriously doubt it. You can get better for either Terry (packaging him and Jones plus the first we acquired) or Damp (playing Murphy behind Diop as backup center and getting another Vet Minimum body or some 2nd string guy back in the trade), but you cannot get any real value back for Josh. Imho it´s best to ship him off and get something in return that enables us to move either of those assets - and the trade above gives us both trade flexibility (as it makes Terry and Damp moveable) and - to some degree - an insurance in case Kidd blows or underachieves, as we can move his contract at the trade deadline. Sure, we´re losing some talent, but there´s always one side losing TALENT because it hopes to add pieces to make other things work.
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Jamal Tinsley has zero trade value. None.
Troy Murphy is making 11 mil a season for three more seasons, and you think he has more value than Bass? Or even the same value? Despite Josh's issues last season he still has a very reasonable contract. The idea that a first round pick plus the negative trade value of Tinsley is equal value for Josh is....the siiliest thing I've read in a long time. I wouldn't trade Bass by himself for that package.
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we could just keep howard, if he plays better and stops acting like a child we could still keep him or trade him because he'll have more value. i know we can get a better trade than that right now.
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worst thread ever
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08-08-2008, 10:18 AM
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Somebody post the teddy bear with scissors picture.
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My thoughts exactly...
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If we go after Tinsley at at all it should be a straight up Stack with money to buy him out next season ( or maybe a second round pick if we have any)for Tinsley. it is a good move depth wise at point guard and we are able to move Stack because of Tinsley's low trade value and Indiana already making it vocal that he wont be playing with the pacers next season. with that being said it already wont work because Tinsley said that Carlisle was a bad coach for him and held him back from becoming a great player. If we can get past that i think it is a worth while deal. if not forget about it.
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