05-27-2022, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
Step 1: Brunson & #26 for Mitchell Robinson & #11
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According to former Nets capologist and ESPN financial guru Bobby Marks, however, such as deal is a virtual mathematical impossibility. Because both Robinson and Brunson were second-round picks in 2018 who signed minimum contracts, they will be considered base-year compensation players. An equal trade of salary money can’t be done, even if the players’ new actual wages match exactly.
Another issue is the Mavericks are so close to the hard cap even without Brunson. According to collective bargaining agreement rules, Dallas can’t go over the $157 million hard cap in a sign-and-trade and is already at $153 million without Brunson. The Mavericks would have to trade other players first.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/24/mitche...ks-pipe-dream/
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05-27-2022, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MFFL
According to former Nets capologist and ESPN financial guru Bobby Marks, however, such as deal is a virtual mathematical impossibility. Because both Robinson and Brunson were second-round picks in 2018 who signed minimum contracts, they will be considered base-year compensation players. An equal trade of salary money can’t be done, even if the players’ new actual wages match exactly.
Another issue is the Mavericks are so close to the hard cap even without Brunson. According to collective bargaining agreement rules, Dallas can’t go over the $157 million hard cap in a sign-and-trade and is already at $153 million without Brunson. The Mavericks would have to trade other players first.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/24/mitche...ks-pipe-dream/
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So what you are saying is the Mavs squandering of free agency potential in 2019 where they left dry powder on the table and the total miss on all 3 of their 2020 draft choices, this team is basically screwed in terms of a young core team building effort around Luka. It is Luka and Brunson baby all the way until Luka leaves in 4 years.
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05-27-2022, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeus
So what you are saying is the Mavs squandering of free agency potential in 2019 where they left dry powder on the table and the total miss on all 3 of their 2020 draft choices, this team is basically screwed in terms of a young core team building effort around Luka. It is Luka and Brunson baby all the way until Luka leaves in 4 years.
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Donnie Nelson really fucked us
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05-27-2022, 10:10 AM
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I would still trade Brunson. I know people here think I’m an idiot, but I don’t see Luka and Brunson winning a championship together, the same way Dame and CJ couldn’t get over the hump. They’re just too similar with similar deficiencies.
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05-27-2022, 12:14 PM
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I would still trade Brunson. I know people here think I’m an idiot, but I don’t see Luka and Brunson winning a championship together, the same way Dame and CJ couldn’t get over the hump. They’re just too similar with similar deficiencies.
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I don't think you're an idiot, but you have to keep Brunson as an asset. And our cap situation makes a S&T pretty difficult.
If they don't work out together, then you move him by the deadline or the season after.
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05-27-2022, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
I would still trade Brunson. I know people here think I’m an idiot, but I don’t see Luka and Brunson winning a championship together, the same way Dame and CJ couldn’t get over the hump. They’re just too similar with similar deficiencies.
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He's a free agent right so a trade would have to be a sign and trade. Makes it more difficult. But if he happens to want to go to a team that is willing to trade us a player we happen to want, sure.
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05-27-2022, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
I would still trade Brunson. I know people here think I’m an idiot, but I don’t see Luka and Brunson winning a championship together, the same way Dame and CJ couldn’t get over the hump. They’re just too similar with similar deficiencies.
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Its damn near impossible to do a sign and trade. Mavs are already near the cap without Brunson, so they only option where he isnt on the team next year is to:
Let him walk, and get nothing in return, and still not have money for free agents.
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05-27-2022, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
I would still trade Brunson. I know people here think I’m an idiot, but I don’t see Luka and Brunson winning a championship together, the same way Dame and CJ couldn’t get over the hump. They’re just too similar with similar deficiencies.
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According to Stein, Bulls guard Zach LaVine is a potential target that intrigues the Mavericks, who apparently like the idea of adding another wing slasher and scorer, particularly after seeing how effective Spencer Dinwiddie was this season alongside Doncic.
However, LaVine is a free agent this summer and it would be a challenge for the Mavs to sign-and-trade for him and re-sign Jalen Brunson, since team salary would be well beyond the projected tax apron — any club that acquires a player via sign-and-trade becomes hard-capped at the apron for the rest of that league year. If acquiring LaVine isn’t realistic, Dallas will likely pivot to other options on the wing, Stein says.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba...92efb95b7c01ea
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05-29-2022, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
I would still trade Brunson. I know people here think I’m an idiot, but I don’t see Luka and Brunson winning a championship together, the same way Dame and CJ couldn’t get over the hump. They’re just too similar with similar deficiencies.
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This is 100% correct unless Brunson agrees to come off bench as 6th man
Dinwiddie starting with Luka is way to go then Brunson off bench as Vinnie Johnson type microwave scorer when Luka sits
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05-30-2022, 11:42 PM
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Last edited by beempty; 05-30-2022 at 11:53 PM.
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05-30-2022, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DIRK LEGIONS
This is 100% correct unless Brunson agrees to come off bench as 6th man
Dinwiddie starting with Luka is way to go then Brunson off bench as Vinnie Johnson type microwave scorer when Luka sits
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Absolutely. As constructed, JB is the 6th man. Dinwiddie or THJ start over him.
The problem is that if we don't pull off a SnT, that significantly weakens his value, and we're paying big money for a 6th man that we can't trade for a big piece. He has to start if we pay him, and that will never get us over the hump.
I think what's really going on is that the Mavs talk big all season/offseason about how he's their #1 priority, but they go to him privately and tell him they want to work out a trade to his preferred destination, and if they can't he walks (the more likely scenario).
THJ or Dinwiddie take his spot in the starting lineup, the other comes off the bench, and we more or less have the same squad as last year looking for an upgrade via trade.
Last edited by beempty; 05-30-2022 at 11:48 PM.
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