$hillary vs. Drumpf

[bunkmoreland]

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ricans-support

If you think Hillary should have won and that all Trump voters are racists, sexists, fascists,
this article from the liberal Guardian is pretty good at dispelling that. There are some credible reasons that people voted for him in spite of him being an asshole.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by bunkmoreland

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ricans-support

If you think Hillary should have won and that all Trump voters are racists, sexists, fascists,
this article from the liberal Guardian is pretty good at dispelling that. There are some credible reasons that people voted for him in spite of him being an asshole.

The voters might not be bigots, but they voted for a guy who platformed to ban certain races and religions from this country... Obviously the hate for Hillary runs deeper than any discomfort of flat-out bigotry. You might be comfortable with that, but the rest of us aren't. It's like everyone who voted for him is just ignoring what this guy SAID for the last year.

FFS, pick up a book and read about the rise of the Nazi party in Germany. This is history repeating itself. Everyone who voted for Trump is complicit.

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by Underdog

The voters might not be bigots, but they voted for a guy who platformed to ban certain races and religions from this country... Obviously the hate for Hillary runs deeper than any discomfort of flat-out bigotry. You might be comfortable with that, but the rest of us aren't. It's like everyone who voted for him is just ignoring what this guy SAID for the last year.

FFS, pick up a book and read about the rise of the Nazi party in Germany. This is history repeating itself. Everyone who voted for Trump is complicit.

I totally understand WHY the people didnt want to vote for Clinton. But voting for Trump just wasnt really an option. Michael Moore and others calling it "people just wanted to throw a handgrenate in the system". But its not a handgrenate, its a suicide bombvest...

And sooner or later the people are going to realize this. Lets see how much trump is going the help the angry rural parts of the country.

And as a fellow german, this picture says it all:

[bunkmoreland]

Originally Posted by Underdog

The voters might not be bigots, but they voted for a guy who platformed to ban certain races and religions from this country... Obviously the hate for Hillary runs deeper than any discomfort of flat-out bigotry. You might be comfortable with that, but the rest of us aren't. It's like everyone who voted for him is just ignoring what this guy SAID for the last year.

FFS, pick up a book and read about the rise of the Nazi party in Germany. This is history repeating itself. Everyone who voted for Trump is complicit.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not comfortable with that. I didn't vote for him. And I'm very worried.
But the Democrats have a share of blame to take too. Hillary ignored white working class Middle Americans' valid concerns about trade and the economy just as much as she ignored racist, misogynistic, nationalistic, anti-immigrant fervor.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by bunkmoreland

Don't get me wrong. I'm not comfortable with that. I didn't vote for him. And I'm very worried.

Then I'm sorry if I directed any of my last post at you.

But the Democrats have a share of blame to take too. Hillary ignored white working class Middle Americans' valid concerns about trade and the economy just as much as she ignored racist, misogynistic, nationalistic, anti-immigrant fervor.

I agree with all of that... I wonder how this election would have turned out if Bernie got the nod? Or better yet, Joe Biden... I absolutely hate that the Dems saw the last 8 years as just "keeping the seat warm" for Hillary. She was the most despised presidential nominee in US history until Trump came along. This election was a complete shitshow.

I think both parties chose loathsome candidates this election. I'm not a Republican, but I would have voted for Kasich over Hillary... Maybe even Jeb! or Rubio (although I think Cruz was just as bad as Clinton, although for completely different reasons)... Like, I would have been happy with any result in a Biden vs. Kasich race.

And of course, a Trump presidency is a lot more scary with the Republicans winning both the House and the Senate, soon to be followed by the Supreme Court... The last time one party had that much power was 1929, which of course resulted in the Great Depression... Unless the Republicans stand up to this guy, he's going to have all the power to do whatever pops into that stupid little head of his. I dunno about you, but I'm a bit uncomfortable with the idea of Paul Ryan being our last line of defense against an all-out dictatorship.