02-03-2023, 02:07 PM
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Bring Kyrie here. Dead serious.
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02-03-2023, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
Bring Kyrie here. Dead serious.
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Dp and THJ is a steal for them. Tell them just trust me
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02-03-2023, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
Dp and THJ is a steal for them. Tell them just trust me
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From what I've read the nets have no interest in THJ at all
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02-03-2023, 03:04 PM
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Bring Kyrie here. Dead serious.
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why? you think you can change him lol
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02-03-2023, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Melonhead
why? you think you can change him lol
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Marc Stein says Lakers and Mavs to engage in trade talks for him. Amazing how one trade request can rock the league .
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02-03-2023, 02:27 PM
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Problem is Kyrie can walk this summer. What could you offer that would negate that?
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02-03-2023, 02:58 PM
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I'm just putting it out there what I think Cuban might think and why I don't think Kyrie would ever happen.
He pointed to what was called an antisemetic movie and got suspended 5 games. Cuban is also Jewish.
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02-03-2023, 03:23 PM
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Which poopoo platter do you want Russ or ours.
We better not be including any 1st round picks. (if we even can)
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02-03-2023, 03:33 PM
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Which poopoo platter do you want Russ or ours.
We better not be including any 1st round picks. (if we even can)
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I don't think we can add 1rp until off season. I think our FO is dumb, but are they that dumb?
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02-03-2023, 03:39 PM
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Shams also reporting Mavs, Lakers, and Suns interested.
So this isn't some made up thing for those who are skeptical around here. Shams and Stein reporting this.
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02-03-2023, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Shams also reporting Mavs, Lakers, and Suns interested.
So this isn't some made up thing for those who are skeptical around here. Shams and Stein reporting this.
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I wouldn't mind even being a 3rd team and get Ayton, if that's possible.
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02-03-2023, 03:46 PM
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I wouldn't mind even being a 3rd team and get Ayton, if that's possible.
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Or maybe get back Curry from the Nets. Lots of ways we could get in on it.
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02-03-2023, 04:23 PM
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02-03-2023, 05:42 PM
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A home run at the trade deadline would be great (trade bringing an all-star caliber player to the Mavs) but it would not take much to improve the overall roster and that should be the minimum goal.
I can almost hear the MBT now "Sometimes the best move is to make no move at all. There were no trades available that would move the needle so we stayed pat. We are currently fourth in the West and that is with key players being injured. Once everyone is healthy, we anticipate finishing in the top four in the West and competing for a Championship. Besides, we like our team (we've got some cool dudes)!".
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02-03-2023, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by purplefrog
A home run at the trade deadline would be great (trade bringing an all-star caliber player to the Mavs) but it would not take much to improve the overall roster and that should be the minimum goal.
I can almost hear the MBT now "Sometimes the best move is to make no move at all. There were no trades available that would move the needle so we stayed pat. We are currently fourth in the West and that is with key players being injured. Once everyone is healthy, we anticipate finishing in the top four in the West and competing for a Championship. Besides, we like our team (we've got some cool dudes)!".
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Sounds about right.
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02-03-2023, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by purplefrog
A home run at the trade deadline would be great (trade bringing an all-star caliber player to the Mavs) but it would not take much to improve the overall roster and that should be the minimum goal.
I can almost hear the MBT now "Sometimes the best move is to make no move at all. There were no trades available that would move the needle so we stayed pat. We are currently fourth in the West and that is with key players being injured. Once everyone is healthy, we anticipate finishing in the top four in the West and competing for a Championship. Besides, we like our team (we've got some cool dudes)!".
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Well the Mavs jumping on the Kyrie things tells me they don't have shit worth of backup moves right now.
But considering the West is trash outside of 2-3 teams, you have to go for it now. The fact that we are in 4th place with how bad our team is outside Luka is nothing short of a miracle. ANY improvement is good improvement.
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02-03-2023, 06:07 PM
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Mavs talking with Nets about a Kyrie Irving trade, give them Dodo and THJ. That would give us another consistent 20 point scorer. We would be a championship level team. Kyrie told Nets he is not re-signing with them. Nets need to get anything for him.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2yxqwoy2
Luka/Hardy
Irving/Frank/Pinson
Spencer/Green
Bullock/Bertans
Wood/Maxi/Powell
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02-03-2023, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by liqwidhalo
Mavs talking with Nets about a Kyrie Irving trade, give them Dodo and THJ. That would give us another consistent 20 point scorer. We would be a championship level team. Kyrie told Nets he is not re-signing with them. Nets need to get anything for him.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2yxqwoy2
Luka/Hardy
Irving/Frank/Pinson
Spencer/Green
Bullock/Bertans
Wood/Maxi/Powell
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That would be nice huh? Try Spence/Wood for Irving and you're closer...
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02-03-2023, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Well the Mavs jumping on the Kyrie things tells me they don't have shit worth of backup moves right now.
But considering the West is trash outside of 2-3 teams, you have to go for it now. The fact that we are in 4th place with how bad our team is outside Luka is nothing short of a miracle. ANY improvement is good improvement.
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Agree 100%.
Here are some hypotheticals just to to check the temperature of the group:
Would you be willing to include a future first round pick for Lavine? For Bojan? For Bamba? For Kyrie?
How about Hardy for any of the above?
How about Josh Green for any of the above?
How about Wood for any of the above?
Just curious.
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02-03-2023, 06:36 PM
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I would include one or two future 1sts for Lavine or Kyrie if Kyrie signs an extension with us. I would not include Green because we are trying to win now and Green helps us win now.
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02-03-2023, 08:23 PM
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Agree 100%.
Here are some hypotheticals just to to check the temperature of the group:
Would you be willing to include a future first round pick for Lavine? For Bojan? For Bamba? For Kyrie?
How about Hardy for any of the above?
How about Josh Green for any of the above?
How about Wood for any of the above?
Just curious.
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Lavine ia the only one Im entertaining giving up Josh for. I think hes about to uncork. If not this season he will by next season.
I'm not including Wood for anyone aside from maybe Lavine either.
Idc too much about the picks unless you start piling them on.
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02-03-2023, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by purplefrog
A home run at the trade deadline would be great (trade bringing an all-star caliber player to the Mavs) but it would not take much to improve the overall roster and that should be the minimum goal.
I can almost hear the MBT now "Sometimes the best move is to make no move at all. There were no trades available that would move the needle so we stayed pat. We are currently fourth in the West and that is with key players being injured. Once everyone is healthy, we anticipate finishing in the top four in the West and competing for a Championship. Besides, we like our team (we've got some cool dudes)!".
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Honestly makes me sick to think about because Luka is not built for a constant grind to do it all for the full season?and the Mavs would be saying yes we?re content with Luka getting banged up all season to keep us in the top 6?
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02-03-2023, 07:31 PM
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Tmac- Mavs aren?t doing anything until the off-season
Everyone else- Mavs are trying to get every single player in the league
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02-03-2023, 09:32 PM
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02-03-2023, 10:31 PM
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Mavs are interested in everyone. - Sources
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02-03-2023, 09:32 PM
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Btw Kyrie wants 50 million per year
If they want to have Kyrie as a rental then whatever, just don?t give up Wood imo.
He?s not sticking around once the summer hits
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02-03-2023, 11:36 PM
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IF Kyrie wants to stay here long term.
IF we can keep Wood and Green.
Then yes. I roll the dice. I'm not crazy about Dinwiddie's role here and DFS is overrated.
If they want a bunch of firsts too, then that would be hard to fathom.
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02-04-2023, 12:13 AM
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SD+DFS and two FRPs is drastically overpaying for Kyrie
Dude wants out and it an expiring deal. If they don?t trade him, he pouts for the season and then walks for nothing as a UFA (albeit one with full Bird). The only thing we?d have to beat is other teams and no one wants to drive up the score for the Kanye of basketball.
If he wants to be here with an extension I?d do anyone not named Luka and Green. I would balk at 1 FRP though and would laugh at 2+
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02-04-2023, 10:33 AM
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Sounds like he wants Lakers so there?s that
Could open up the market for us though to grab someone else
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02-04-2023, 11:16 AM
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Westbrook, Cam Johnson, and Dinwiddie all out tonight.
Still probably 95% chance it's the Lakers.
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02-04-2023, 11:53 AM
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Suns have the best package.
Lakers have the Laker mystique
Mavs have...uh...
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02-04-2023, 01:27 PM
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Suns have the best package.
Lakers have the Laker mystique
Mavs have...uh...
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Ps5, lED lighting and sick ass robes in the locker room
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02-04-2023, 12:05 PM
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Mavs would be dumb to trade Spencer.
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02-04-2023, 03:03 PM
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We were never in the.....etc....etc.
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02-04-2023, 05:55 PM
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This the exact type of trade Cuban would do. He only wants big fish easy and refuses to build a team.
I?m not for it because there?s zero chance you?re getting Kyrie to commit long term. And even then he wants 50m for 4 years. Summer would be a disaster when he walks
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02-04-2023, 06:20 PM
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02-05-2023, 12:52 PM
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I don't see any way that Kyrie and Luka would be compatible.
The risk of losing Luka would increase dramatically if we were to acquire Kyrie imo.
I want no part of Kyrie on this team.
Again, 3 players I never want to see in a Mavs uniform are Harden, Westbrook and Irving.
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02-05-2023, 01:59 PM
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I don't see any way that Kyrie and Luka would be compatible.
The risk of losing Luka would increase dramatically if we were to acquire Kyrie imo.
I want no part of Kyrie on this team.
Again, 3 players I never want to see in a Mavs uniform are Harden, Westbrook and Irving.
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I?d take Westbrook on this team
28 games to deal with him before some real savings this summer
But yeah I?m with you. Harden and Kyrie have horrible personalities.
More than that, though, they?re offense guys. Mavs already have a top-10 offense.
The real issue with this team is that we?re 24th in defense and 30th in rebounding. Harden and/or Kyrie would make the defense/rebounding worse even if we just added them to the team, and likely we?d also need to dump guys like Dodo and Green to get them making us even worse.
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02-05-2023, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
I?d take Westbrook on this team
28 games to deal with him before some real savings this summer
But yeah I?m with you. Harden and Kyrie have horrible personalities.
More than that, though, they?re offense guys. Mavs already have a top-10 offense.
The real issue with this team is that we?re 24th in defense and 30th in rebounding. Harden and/or Kyrie would make the defense/rebounding worse even if we just added them to the team, and likely we?d also need to dump guys like Dodo and Green to get them making us even worse.
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